Trump just fired Comey!

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Chiropteran

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Believe whatever you want to, but the bolded is in direct conflict with his numerous public statements/tweets until about last week or so. And also against all the reporting that has come out since he canned him.

Obviously you are a serious business pro. It's an excellent idea to tell your employees you want to fire them long before the decision has been finalized, and it would never hurt morale or possible endanger national security.

/s
 

fskimospy

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Nonsense. Trump wanted to fire Comey for awhile. The DECISION to fire Comey was made after the AG's recommendation. Lie not found.

Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

Another lie from you.

Initial White House statement on Comey firing:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...ing-of-fbi-director-1494366997-htmlstory.html

President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Trump statement now:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-james-comey-nbc/index.html

"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

One of those statements from the Trump administration is a lie. You are a liar for trying to hide this. Shameful.
 

Pens1566

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Obviously you are a serious business pro. It's an excellent idea to tell your employees you want to fire them long before the decision has been finalized, and it would never hurt morale or possible endanger national security.

/s

Jesus, you're a fucking retard.
 

fskimospy

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When did I claim this? Please quote me.

Obama made a general statement. The general statement becomes a lie if the election was rigged by the Russians. Whether or not Obama was directly referring to Russians is irrelevant.

Obama did not make a general statement, he replied to a specific question about vote integrity. Your claims that he was making a general statement are easily disproved lies. I have even quoted the question and provided the transcript and there is no ambiguity. What you said is easily, provably false.

Why is it that when you're unambiguously busted you can't admit that you either made a mistake or told a lie? Do you think if you just repeat it enough times people will give up? What's wrong with you?
 

Chiropteran

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Another lie from you.

Initial White House statement on Comey firing:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...ing-of-fbi-director-1494366997-htmlstory.html



Trump statement now:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-james-comey-nbc/index.html



One of those statements from the Trump administration is a lie. You are a liar for trying to hide this. Shameful.

How so?

Seems like you are really pissed off over this.

In a theoretical alternate universe where the AG disagreed with Trump, Trump would have fired Comey anyway (or he is lying when he said he would). However, we don't live in this alternate universe. Why does this bother you so much?

In our universe, where the AG did give the recommendation, there was no lie.
 

emperus

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Nonsense. Trump wanted to fire Comey for awhile. The DECISION to fire Comey was made after the AG's recommendation. Lie not found.

Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

You understand what "regardless" means right? Are you a troll?
 
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Chiropteran

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Obama did not make a general statement, he replied to a specific question about vote integrity.

So. You believe that Russia can rig the election in favor of a candidate who shouldn't win otherwise, and that doesn't impact vote integrity?

What exactly does "vote integrity" mean for us if it doesn't even mean the election is legit?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ownage? You have an interesting perspective here. Today we just found out that Trump in fact decided to fire Comey himself despite the stories they told the last few days. And you have confidence in the guy who was the scapegoat for this LIE and chose to trash his reputation instead of coming out and telling the truth.

Honestly the shifting sands of this story give credence to the the story that Rosenstein was uncomfortable being the scapegoat and did threaten to quit.

Also shredding the Administrations cred on this issue is that McCabe (thanks MOS) testified that Comey was well liked and respected, directly opposite of the WH's claim. This looks so bad it's incredible. Can we exhume Nixon and put him in the Big Chair? I'd like that better.
 

Chiropteran

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"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

You understand what "regardless" means right? Are you a troll?

It seems to mean liberals are going to get completely unhinged.

I'm pretty sure it means, correctly, the president is the one who makes the final decision, and Trump was prepared to override the attorney general if he had to.

But he didn't. You are crying about a big "what if" scenario that has already passed and didn't happen. What is the big deal?
 
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Also shredding the Administrations cred on this issue is that Rosenstein testified that Comey was well liked and respected, directly opposite of the WH's claim. This looks so bad it's incredible. Can we exhume Nixon and put him in the Big Chair? I'd like that better.


That's McCabe. The acting director.
 

UNCjigga

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When did I claim this? Please quote me.

Obama made a general statement. The general statement becomes a lie if the election was rigged by the Russians. Whether or not Obama was directly referring to Russians is irrelevant.
Wow, no wonder you're still on Team Trump...you don't know what a lie is!!!
 

fskimospy

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It seems to mean liberals are going to get completely unhinged.

I'm pretty sure it means, correctly, the president is the one who makes the final decision, and Trump was prepared to override the attorney general if he had to.

But he didn't. You are crying about a big "what if" scenario that has already passed and didn't happen. What is the big deal?

The White House said Trump fired Comey based on the recommendation of the AG.

The White House later said Trump was going to fire Comey regardless of the recommendation of the AG.

Both of those statements cannot be true. One is a lie.
 

fskimospy

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So. You believe that Russia can rig the election in favor of a candidate who shouldn't win otherwise, and that doesn't impact vote integrity?

What exactly does "vote integrity" mean for us if it doesn't even mean the election is legit?

You don't need to ask me these questions, you can just look directly at the question asked of Obama and his response to it. The way you attempted to represent what he said was false. This is either because you were duped by right wing media or because you're a liar. Initially I was willing to accept that you were just duped by unscrupulous right wing media but now that you've continued to defend your statement and have tried to further distort the meaning of what Obama said the obvious conclusion is that you're a liar.

It's ironic that you followed up your claim of never lying with a huge lie but that's your problem, not ours. You got busted, time to own up to it.
 

Chiropteran

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The White House said Trump fired Comey based on the recommendation of the AG.

The White House later said Trump was going to fire Comey regardless of the recommendation of the AG.

Both of those statements cannot be true. One is a lie.

You seem to have an issue with linear time.

Step 1: the AG recommended firing Comey.

Step 2: on that recomendedation, Trump fired Comey.

Step 3: The White House said Trump fired Comey based on the recommendation of the AG. (BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR UNIVERSE)

No lie has occurred.

Alternate reality:

Step 1: the AG recommended against firing Comey.

Step 2: Trump fired Comey anyway.

Step 3: White House says Trump decided to fire Comey for his own reasons.
 

Chiropteran

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You don't need to ask me these questions, you can just look directly at the question asked of Obama and his response to it. The way you attempted to represent what he said was false. This is either because you were duped by right wing media or because you're a liar. Initially I was willing to accept that you were just duped by unscrupulous right wing media but now that you've continued to defend your statement and have tried to further distort the meaning of what Obama said the obvious conclusion is that you're a liar.

It's ironic that you followed up your claim of never lying with a huge lie but that's your problem, not ours. You got busted, time to own up to it.


Okay. Obama obviously meant the election could be rigged in a multitude of ways, just not by Hillary or the DNC (even though the DNC is now being sued by multitudes of Bernie supporters).

Is that really your stance?

Nobody listened to Obama's speech and came to that conclusion. Nobody.
 
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DSF, you're seriously losing your mind here. Maybe you need some more time to rest and recuperate because you're now just rambling incoherently.

The Trump Administration has already given numerous accounts of the causes and circumstances behind Comey's firing that are mutually exclusive to one another, meaning he's already been caught in numerous lies on the topic. Despite this, you then went and cited another statement from the Trump administration as somehow disproving news reports.

So they lied to your face and the next statement they make you just assumed was true again. I'm glad to see you're already back to insulting people in the place that you've repeatedly whined about being too mean. As always, you never fail to shit your pants.
Nice try at another classic fskimospy weasel diversion. But we were specifically talking about the report I posted where the DOJ denied that Rosenstein threatened to quit and you then actually deemed an unnamed source to be more credible than the DOJ in that pea-sized irrationally partisan brain of yours. And lastly, your little lecture on confirmation bias was especially delicious...your self-ownage has no bounds!
 

fskimospy

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You seem to have an issue with linear time.

Step 1: the AG recommended firing Comey.

Step 2: on that recomendedation, Trump fired Comey.

Step 3: The White House said Trump fired Comey based on the recommendation of the AG. (BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR UNIVERSE)

No lie has occurred.

Alternate reality:

Step 1: the AG recommended against firing Comey.

Step 2: Trump fired Comey anyway.

Step 3: White House says Trump decided to fire Comey for his own reasons.

If you said you were going to fire someone regardless of whether event A occurred then you can't have fired them based on event A because you already admitted that you were going to fire them no matter if event A happened or not.

How is this even remotely difficult to understand?
 

fskimospy

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Nice try at another classic fskimospy weasel diversion. But we were specifically talking about the report I posted where the DOJ denied that Rosenstein threatened to quit and you then actually deemed an unnamed source to be more credible than the DOJ in that pea-sized brain of yours. And lastly, your little lecture on confirmation bias was especially delicious...your abject hypocrisy and self-ownage has no bounds!

No, I said that you can't trust anything the Trump administration says because of its well documented series of lies about this issue. You decided to trust it anyway, haha. Classic confirmation bias, but we already know that's kind of your thing. I mean how many right wing editorials have you linked as 'evidence' because they told you what you wanted to hear?

It's not like you being a hypocrite is anything new though. Remember this thread? Now that was some weapons grade hypocrisy from you but your ego was so bruised you kept digging deeper instead of just admitting you fucked up.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...als-say-it-was-to-elect-donald-trump.2481207/
 

Chiropteran

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If you said you were going to fire someone regardless of whether event A occurred then you can't have fired them based on event A because you already admitted that you were going to fire them no matter if event A happened or not.

How is this even remotely difficult to understand?

You seem to be suffering a failure of understanding. Trump accepted the AG recommendation and fired Comey. There is no part of that that is lie because Trump would have fired Comey anyway, it's still 100% true.

The actual line is "I have accepted their recommendation and you are hereby terminated and removed from office"

This is still 100% true based on all the information we have.

Do you have an alternate statement where Trump says something like "I ONLY fired Comey because of the AG's recommendation"? Lets see it. Pay up or shut up.
 
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