Trump just fired Comey!

[fskimospy]

You seem to be suffering a failure of understanding. Trump accepted the AG recommendation and fired Comey. There is no part of that that is lie because Trump would have fired Comey anyway, it's still 100% true.

The actual line is "I have accepted their recommendation and you are hereby terminated and removed from office"

This is still 100% true based on all the information we have.

Do you have an alternate statement where Trump says something like "I ONLY fired Comey because of the AG's recommendation"? Lets see it. Pay up or shut up.

I literally quoted you the White House's statement and provided a link to it so you could read it yourself. I then quoted Trump's statement and provided you a link to it so you could read it yourself. The two statements are mutually exclusive. You cannot say you fired someone based off of a recommendation and then say the recommendation had no effect on your decision to fire them.

Do you need them quoted again?

Look, I know your pride is at stake now so you're never going to admit to your lies or to being wrong. That's fine if that's the case, but why keep digging deeper?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I literally quoted you the White House's statement and provided a link to it so you could read it yourself. I then quoted Trump's statement and provided you a link to it so you could read it yourself. The two statements are mutually exclusive. You cannot say you fired someone based off of a recommendation and then say the recommendation had no effect on your decision to fire them.

Do you need them quoted again?

Look, I know your pride is at stake now so you're never going to admit to your lies or to being wrong. That's fine if that's the case, but why keep digging deeper?

Because it's fun? There is that possibility.

 

[Fern]

-snip-
For now, the FBI investigation at least is almost certainly over.

What? That's a crazy claim.

Comey wasn't doing the investigation himself; he's just briefed on it. (Recent word is that Comey's briefings had been only weekly but were recently moved to daily).

The (new) acting head has confirmed that the investigation will not be affected.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...linton-angered-some-agents-defends-comey.html

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

You seem to have an issue with linear time.

Step 1: the AG recommended firing Comey.

Step 2: on that recomendedation, Trump fired Comey.

Step 3: The White House said Trump fired Comey based on the recommendation of the AG. (BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR UNIVERSE)

No lie has occurred.

Alternate reality:

Step 1: the AG recommended against firing Comey.

Step 2: Trump fired Comey anyway.

Step 3: White House says Trump decided to fire Comey for his own reasons.

Totally beyond logic & post-truth, huh?

Firing Comey because he intended to and firing Comey because Sessions recommended it are mutually incompatible. Well, unless it's really "I just needed an excuse" which makes Donald look weak.

 

[HTFOff]

Also shredding the Administrations cred on this issue is that McCabe (thanks MOS) testified that Comey was well liked and respected, directly opposite of the WH's claim. This looks so bad it's incredible. Can we exhume Nixon and put him in the Big Chair? I'd like that better.

It's beyond naive to expect the new head of the FBI in his second day on the job to gossip about his predecessor before the ink is dry on his pink slip. It's simply their modus operandi to avoid politics.

But you already knew this.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What? That's a crazy claim.

Comey wasn't doing the investigation himself; he's just briefed on it. (Recent word is that Comey's briefings had been only weekly but were recently moved to daily).

The (new) acting head has confirmed that the investigation will not be affected.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...linton-angered-some-agents-defends-comey.html

Fern

I think you may be right but McCabe is filling in. I was surprisingly impressed with his clear statement of Comey's reputation and support within the agency.

It's hard to imagine Trump picking someone of independence since "loyalty" is the most important trait a Director could have to him. Once that happens we're likely to be supplied leaks by "Deep State" as resistance to Trump's unstable nature.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Chiropteran showed his true colors with "Trump won, we're all on team Trump now" a couple pages back.

That is what this is about. He doesn't care for truth or lies, only that "his guy" "won." Are you sick of the winning yet, bat-face? If he ends up in jail or executed for treason will you still back him? Damn it all to hell, people like you are incapable of rational thought.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's beyond naive to expect the new head of the FBI in his second day on the job to gossip about his predecessor before the ink is dry on his pink slip. It's simply their modus operandi to avoid politics.

But you already knew this.

What I know is that all representatives of Trump openly spoke about Comey having no support and that he was not respected and indeed disliked by those in the agency. None said any differently. McCabe came in and called them and all supporting Rep politicians liars. That makes no sense. You don't cut down your boss and his Administration second day on the job or any other.

 

[Jhhnn]

What? That's a crazy claim.

Comey wasn't doing the investigation himself; he's just briefed on it. (Recent word is that Comey's briefings had been only weekly but were recently moved to daily).

The (new) acting head has confirmed that the investigation will not be affected.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...linton-angered-some-agents-defends-comey.html

Fern

It's entirely predictable that Repubs would try to make it about Hillary & that Fox would jump on it.

The "some agents were unhappy" bit is pretty choice if we think about it much at all. Agents aren't lawyers or prosecutors. Comey is both & said he conferred with DoJ prosecutors who agreed with his recommendation at the time.

The last paragraph in your link is interesting-

In his letter to Comey informing him of his dismissal, Trump said that Comey had told him on three occasions that he was not the subject of any probe. At the hearing, McCabe later said he would not give such updates to Trump.

Trump needs a mole in the Bureau & probably has at least one in New York via Giuliani.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

No, I said that you can't trust anything the Trump administration says because of its well documented series of lies about this issue. You decided to trust it anyway, haha. Classic confirmation bias, but we already know that's kind of your thing. I mean how many right wing editorials have you linked as 'evidence' because they told you what you wanted to hear?

It's not like you being a hypocrite is anything new though. Remember this thread? Now that was some weapons grade hypocrisy from you but your ego was so bruised you kept digging deeper instead of just admitting you fucked up.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...als-say-it-was-to-elect-donald-trump.2481207/

Divert divert divert...it comes so natural for you. Man up and admit you where wrong ffs.

 

[Fern]

-snip-
We have a POTUS who is using the levers of power to kill an executive branch investigation into himself and his associates. And we have a Congress controlled by his political party who shows little to no inclination to operate as a check against Trump's abuse of power. Democracy is on the line right now.

Wow, just wow.

Fern

 

[brycejones]

Divert divert divert...it comes so natural for you. Man up and admit you where wrong ffs.

Dsf goes straight for irony upon his return.

 

[Fern]

If you think this is a little thing you've lost your mind.

As for losing one's mind, it's been clear around who that group includes. It ain't him.

Fern

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Dsf goes straight for irony upon his return.

Derp.

 

[jackstar7]

Wow, just wow.

Fern

You being dismissive doesn't invalidate there being cause for concern.

 

[fskimospy]

Divert divert divert...it comes so natural for you. Man up and admit you where wrong ffs.

Uhmm, what exactly did I say that you think was wrong? Be specific.

You're letting your bruised ego affect your thinking again.

 

[Pens1566]

Derp.

Good to see your time off didn't lower your post quality. This is among your finest ever.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Wow, just wow.

Fern

The world is upside down...mass hysteria abounds. And the really weird part is that they can't see how completely irrational they've become.

 

[hal2kilo]

The world is upside down...mass hysteria abounds. And the really weird part is that they can't see how completely irrational they've become.

Can't help if you've hooked your wagon to a clown.

 

[LPCTech]

We have a POTUS who is using the levers of power to kill an executive branch investigation into himself and his associates. And we have a Congress controlled by his political party who shows little to no inclination to operate as a check against Trump's abuse of power. Democracy is on the line right now.

What about this is "wow"?

This seems like a very accurate description of the situation.

The executive branch, is being protected from the usual checks and balances by the legislative branch while attacking the judicial branch. An unconstitutional attempt to consolidate power by a president suspected of being in league with or at least compromised by an enemy power seems to be a serious concern to any American with half a brain wouldn't you say?

Then lets add in all the lies, and the financial misconduct and the general unhinged wacky behavior.

No concern? Guy is doing great job? Is America great again yet? Working class getting all the help promised and things going great for them now?

No concern needed right, Trump seems like a great guy, honest and fair.

Seems like all republican voters are blind stupid or traitors. In addition to being grossly misinformed about all things at all times. To the benefit of republicans in office and their friends.

 

[brycejones]

Derp.

That would be the vast majority of your posts. Your game of projection and "who me?" continues it appears.

 

[Fern]

DOJ spokesperson says it isn't true that Rosenstein threatened to quit. They also stated that Comey did not recently ask for additional resources for the Russia investigation prior to being fired. But hey...I'm damn sure that the DOJ must be lying! I love getting all my information from unnamed sources instead...but only if it fits my narrative. /s

I see that the wolf pack hacks have gone rabid while I was taking a little time off. And I didn't think they could get anymore hysterical. Silly me! Long live the echo chamber!

Yeah. And there is 'Fake News", who da thunk it?

Yesterday it was reported that Comey had asked the DoJ for more funds. Well, that was all BS.

The DoJ came out yesterday and denied it. Now the new (acting) FBI Director is also denying it:

McCabe also denied reports that Comey had requested more resources for the Russia probe in the days leading up to his termination, with McCabe saying he believes the probe to be “adequately resourced” and adding that normally the FBI will not request resources for a single investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...linton-angered-some-agents-defends-comey.html or http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/polit...ring-senate-intelligence-committee/index.html

(The two articles cover the same subject, the testimony of the new Director. Check the different headlines. Somebody is slanting. Also note that the CNN link omitted this quote from McCabe "“I think morale's always been good, but there were folks within our agency that were frustrated with the outcome of the Hillary Clinton case and some of those folks were very vocal about those concerns,” McCabe testified.". Why would that quote be omitted?)

Fern

 

[Fern]

so if one person at the DOJ is lying and there are multiple reliable sources who contradict those lies, are you sticking with the DOJ? is there a specific number of contradicting sources you require or is no amount enough because they are unnamed?

May I draw your attention to my post just above.

Fern

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Good to see your time off didn't lower your post quality. This is among your finest ever.

Glad you approve and I appreciate the irony.

 

[alien42]

The world is upside down...mass hysteria abounds. And the really weird part is that they can't see how completely irrational they've become.

when it was first exposed that Russia hacked the DNC, you labeled that as conspiracy. we now know that is a fact, are you able to admit that you were wrong on this issue from the beginning?

i have no doubt i could find consistent similar examples relating to Flynn, Manafort, Page, Stone, etc.

it seems you are clearly the one "upside down" on this issue.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ect-donald-trump.2481207/page-4#post-38382712