Fanatical Meat
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Hey how's Putin been lately? Has he given you a pay raise yet? I hear Puti has incresed his wealth greatly (or is it bigly?) since taking office.
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Holy crap, I can't believe I'm living through these times. Senate democrats are pondering a procedural option to shut down the Senate until the repubs agree to an independent investigation.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/10/15610894/democrats-comey-senate-shutdown
They haven't decided to do it yet, but it's under consideration. If they do, so much for that healthcare bill. Among other things.
I say do it. Do it now.
Normally I'd never consider such an action, but at this point I agree. Do it now.
The timing! The timing!
Serious reason for the timing:
Democrats dragging feet and making every presidential appointment take as long as possible is the reason why the timing was what it was.
The timing! The timing!
Serious reason for the timing:
Democrats dragging feet and making every presidential appointment take as long as possible is the reason why the timing was what it was.
"President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on January 13, 2017. Rosenstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 25, 2017."
When it takes an obstructionist senate over 3 months to do a basic confirmation, they look pretty silly complaining about the AG taking a couple weeks to decide to recommend firing Comey.
The timing! The timing!
Serious reason for the timing:
Democrats dragging feet and making every presidential appointment take as long as possible is the reason why the timing was what it was.
"President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on January 13, 2017. Rosenstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 25, 2017."
When it takes an obstructionist senate over 3 months to do a basic confirmation, they look pretty silly complaining about the AG taking a couple weeks to decide to recommend firing Comey.
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is finally letting the nomination of a top Justice Department official advance, after refusing to schedule a vote because he had not received sufficient information on the ongoing Russia probe.
The committee announced Friday that it will take up the nomination of Rod Rosenstein for deputy attorney general at its business meeting on Monday. Grassley had complained the administration was stonewalling his requests for more information, and earlier this month said he would not schedule a vote for Rosenstein until he was briefed by the FBI.
I pondered such action(s) on Feb1, 2017.
My feelings were that such obstruction and non participation promotes single party rule. Which fuels isolation of the opposition party and feelings of separation. From separatism comes separatist movements and true acts of rebellion. I do not like where that path leads in theory, assuming retaliation and escalation on both sides.
But at the same time... it feels like our opposition party lacks the sort of investigative teeth that meets the base expectation of what participation means. To be able to play watch dog and place proper scrutiny on the majority. It's likely our Democratic safeguards need some improvement to replace obstruction with transparency and accountability.
Democrats should absolutely be able to call forth an independent investigation. Perhaps with assistance from the Courts.
I agree with everything you said. The problem is, there is no system in place to permit a minority party any latitude to play watch dog. It's an obvious flaw in our system which has only been exposed now that we've become so partisan. During Watergate, there were still enough republicans willing to do the the right thing, so the flaw wasn't apparent then.
At this point, I'm at a loss as to how to address what I believe is a rather dire circumstance. The only other thing I can think of is to wait until next year and see if the democrats can retake at least one house of Congress. However, by then I suspect the issue may have gone cold. For now, the FBI investigation at least is almost certainly over.
Lol, the Dems didn't pressure Trump into firing Comey. I guess you could rationalize anything. His supporters will stand by Trump no matter what happens. That's only because many are upset and they feel left behind. Many are still pining for the 1950s. In reality, many are going to be left behind. Trump and the Republicans aren't going to save them. The Trumpsters refuse to take responsibility for a changing America. History is not on their side.
Anyway, many Trumpsters are probably strong Hitler supporters, and many will tell you that the Halocaust was made up. That's just the reality. BTW, I don't support Hillary. She's just as bad. Actuallly both parties suck.
Is it a flaw? I can't imagine how many bullshit investigations a party like the current Republican party would try and bring to stop the other party or to try and deligitimize it. If anything, I think the minority party has too much power in the house.
Yes, I thought about that, but what do you see as the remedy here? We have a POTUS who is using the levers of power to kill an executive branch investigation into himself and his associates. And we have a Congress controlled by his political party who shows little to no inclination to operate as a check against Trump's abuse of power. Democracy is on the line right now.
Sorry it took so long to confirm Trump's stooge, apparently he didn't take kindly to being setup as the fall guy:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/depu...depiction-of-his-role-in-comey-dismissal.html
The timing! The timing!
Serious reason for the timing:
Democrats dragging feet and making every presidential appointment take as long as possible is the reason why the timing was what it was.
"President Donald Trump nominated Rosenstein to serve as Deputy Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice on January 13, 2017. Rosenstein was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on April 25, 2017."
When it takes an obstructionist senate over 3 months to do a basic confirmation, they look pretty silly complaining about the AG taking a couple weeks to decide to recommend firing Comey.
Not sure if this has been posted, but rut ro...
Deputy attorney general threatened to quit after being cast as impetus of Comey’s dismissal, source says
Accounts from more than 30 officials at the White House, Justice Department and on Capitol Hill indicate that President Trump was angry that FBI Director James B. Comey would not support his baseless claim that President Obama had his campaign offices wiretapped. Trump also fumed that Comey was giving too much attention to the Russia probe and not enough to investigating leaks to journalists.
I think people should spin around in circles over every little thing the Trump administration does, just like those who did so during Obama's terms.
I think people should spin around in circles over every little thing the Trump administration does, just like those who did so during Obama's terms.
Derp