You were critical of thee protets being linked to civil rights. I was showing by comparison their legitimacy is high compared to the gun toting rednecks.
I also make a clear distinction between the protestors vs rioters/looters
You were critical of thee protets being linked to civil rights. I was showing by comparison their legitimacy is high compared to the gun toting rednecks.Huh? I don't ever remember saying that I support those camo wearing gun toting state protestor morons. Is anyone in this forum backing them? Where did that come from?
Getting off topic here, but read tweet concerning Toronto protests for Regis, stupid Wexit person had hashtag #removetrudeau. Like what does he have to do with her suspicious death?To each of their own, We in general are happy Trudeau give 30sec of silence protest to Trump. Seriously you forgot /s?
Speaking of stupid arguments, I like how people keep comparing the Washington DC protestors to great civil rights leaders Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King. It's almost like you completely forgot that the night before they were looting stores, vandalizing national monuments, and setting fire to a church next door to the White House.
Sure, not everyone in that group took part in that, but pretending that they weren't a security risk is naive at best.
No the oppressed just need to move out of the way of the authorities - ultimatebob 2020Do you really believe that the civil rights movement of the 1960's was peaceful? Are you that out of touch with history?
Really, go read about the Long, Hot Summer of '67. MLK himself might have been peaceful, but at almost every one of his marches there was some rioting and looting that occurred.
When you get hundreds or thousands of angry people together to protest, some will always get violent. The solution is not more violence. Violence only ever begets violence. The solution is to not let it get to the point that they are so angry in the first place. If we want a peaceful society we must listen to those that say they are being oppressed and work with them to resolve their issues.
Look at women in the chart vs. male (insert race). This goes for criminal sentencing, traffic stops, etc. Now tell me why it doesn't even register with woke liberals. Why is the even smaller gap (relative to the gender proportion) so "oppressive" and "racist" when you don't consider the gender gap either (with sexism replacing racism)?
Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex
Police violence is a leading cause of death for young men in the United States. Over the life course, about 1 in every 1,000 black men can expect to be killed by police. Risk of being killed by police peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for men and women and for all racial and ethnic groups...www.pnas.org
Here it shows that Floyd's age group is the same as a 20-something white male. I've already explained why. It's mostly a miscreant problem.
Well, duh. That's the same with race. You realize black men are responsible for around half the homicides despite making up only about 6% of the population? From the 2.5:1 black male vs. white male death by cop ratio, adjust violent crime difference and low SES. That leaves little for racism to account for the numbers.
Exactly, the thing they don't like is black people protesting - they just know that it's not okay to say that so they invent objections as to the manner of protest, holding out that there is of course some kind of protest that they would totally get behind if only the black people would just do that.
What really gave the game away is that they were incandescent with rage that people were kneeling while a song was played. I literally cannot think of a less controversial, more peaceful method of protest than that and yet they STILL freaked out. I wish they would just be honest and say they don't like black protests so black people should stop.
So this is depressing. If any of you harbored delusions that evangelicals would see right through Trump’s bible prop charade...well, prepare to be disappointed:
'He wears the armor of God': evangelicals hail Trump's church photo op
The president’s appeal to his base amid protests was derided by some Christians. Others saw a victory in a world of evilwww.theguardian.com
'He wears the armor of God': evangelicals hail Trump's church photo op
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Many of Trump’s evangelical supporters, far from Washingtons political stage, saw the move as a victory in a world rife with evil.
“My whole family was flabbergasted,” said Benjamin Horbowy, 37.
The Horbowys had gathered in Tallahassee, Florida, to watch live as Trump walked from the White House to St John’s. “My mother just shouted out, ‘God give him strength! He’s doing a Jericho walk!’”
A Jericho walk, in some evangelical circles, refers to the biblical book of Joshua, where God commanded the Israelites to walk seven times around the opposing city of Jericho, whose walls then came crashing down.
Horbowy already supported Trump politically – he heads the local chapter of a pro- Trump motorcycle club and is campaigning for a seat in Florida’s state senate – but when Trump lifted the Bible, Horbowy and his family felt overcome spiritually.
“My mother started crying. She comes from Pentecostal background, and she started speaking in tongues. I haven’t heard her speak in tongues in years,” he said. “I thought, look at my president! He’s establishing the Lord’s kingdom in the world.”
Did he feel that conflicted with the Gospel of John, where Jesus said “my kingdom is not of this world”?
“Well,” Horbowy said, “that’s a philosophical question.”
The catalysts for the protests was the killing of 46-year-old George Floyd by Minneapolis police. Asked about that, Horbowy said, “There’s a Bible verse that says we shouldn’t talk about evil things. We can just say, ‘There’s evil’ and move on.”
He couldn’t remember the exact verse, he said.
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When Trump describes himself as a “law and order” president and holds aloft a Bible, he conflates which law he will enforce, and whose order will follow. In a short speech before the walk to St John’s, Trump said he would “dominate the streets”. That is the “kingdom in the world” Horbowy referenced.
“I believe it’s like Ephesians 6:10 through 19,” Horbowy said from Florida. “I believe this is a president who wears the full armor of God.”
But one of those verses – verse 12 – says explicitly that “we do not wrestle against flesh and blood”, but against spiritual enemies.
“Well,” Howbowy said. “He’s fearless.”
well, apparently Pat Robertson comdemned Trump, but I didn't see his words, so I'm guesing it's a rather gutless condemnation, targetted in the wrong way, that would keep the bible clutchers happy.
I dunno in what thread to post this (I can't believe we don't have a single thread for protests/riots).
This was the MKE PD's reasoning for getting physical and aggressive last night.
I'm not sure they know how this stuff works...
The media and the celebrities are telling everyone else to maintain social distancing but I don't see them saying anything about the so-called protesters. I guess social distancing is only important if some people do it but not others.
Oh ok buddy. I guess social distancing is out the door because of these lovely "peaceful" protesters. Keep the double standards going.Another brave poster coming from his hole to tell everyone what’s really important.
yawnOh ok buddy. I guess social distancing is out the door because of these lovely "peaceful" protesters. Keep the double standards going.
Oh ok buddy. I guess social distancing is out the door because of these lovely "peaceful" protesters. Keep the double standards going.
It works on both sides. The so-called experts, media elites, celebrities, politicians were very adamant about social distancing before but haven't heard a thing about them concerning these protesters. I see a double standard. We're talking about the ones pushing the social distancing narrative ... why are you bringing in the right wingers who have their own petty little agenda.I find it interesting that people who claimed that coronavirus was a hoax, that social distancing was useless, that the economy was more important than anything (to the point of armed invasion of the Michigan legislature), are suddenly concerned that protesters aren't social distancing.
It's almost like they're not sincere in some (or all) of their espoused beliefs.
Since you've completely ignored the actual subject of the thread why should we engage with you?LOL ... 3 replies that all lob insults but 0 having to do with having a conversation. I guess those rules don't apply to some members.
This place has gotten much worse since the last time I ventured here. I figured we'd see some fresh faces or new ideas. Guess not.
LOL ... 3 replies that all lob insults but 0 having to do with having a conversation. I guess those rules don't apply to some members.
This place has gotten much worse since the last time I ventured here. I figured we'd see some fresh faces or new ideas. Guess not.
Were the police sent to enforce social distancing laws like they were to businesses?Feel free to inform the protesters about your views that they should socially distance and all wear masks. I did in fact hear commentators on both MSNBC and CNN mention protesters not wearing masks and going back to their communities spreading the virus, but I suspect you don't frequent those channels.