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ImpulsE69

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Glad to see my comment sparked the realizations of possibilities. This will be a frustrating game of cat and mouse. Any possible avenue of slithering away will be attempted. Trump will call in any things he considers favors, and will drag them if they don't comply. DOJ needs to move slowly and cross every t.
 

Zorba

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First off, the judge did not "ignore the law." The law confers the judge with discretion to appoint a special master.

Second, I doubt Trump can even appeal who is assigned as special master. The parties will likely agree on a name.

Third, people should not make any assumptions about how USSC would rule on any given issue in this case.
She claimed he had potential standing to get back stolen property, where is that in the law?

Also appears she was trying to invent executive privilege for a former president.

I agree with your third point, but that is exactly the problem. This is a pretty clear cut case that no one would think would ever get to the USSC if it was about anyone else. But here we are having to wonder if the USSC will once again step in to delay for Trump.
 

Zorba

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Before Trump judges was it common for judges to give stop work orders? Like here, "you can't investigate until I'm done stalling" or with OSHA "you can't work on implementation until I'm done stalling."
 

fskimospy

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She claimed he had potential standing to get back stolen property, where is that in the law?

Also appears she was trying to invent executive privilege for a former president.

I agree with your third point, but that is exactly the problem. This is a pretty clear cut case that no one would think would ever get to the USSC if it was about anyone else. But here we are having to wonder if the USSC will once again step in to delay for Trump.
I really do think there is a non-trivial chance they pull the same two-step they did with his taxes which is bounce it around the courts until it no longer matters and then eventually rule against him.

That being said this would be a very long time to delay and the fact that the DOJ may just decide not to challenge the special master because it doesn't matter.
 
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emperus

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Yeah, the executive privilege argument is the worst part of this ruling. And I think this is a perfect example for the argument. We have a current president trying to defend the secrets and intelligent sources of the country and a Judge is arguing that the former president should have more say in that decision than the current President based on some "executive privilege". Doesn't that negate the power of the current President granted by Article II of the Constitution?
 

fskimospy

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Yeah, the executive privilege argument is the worst part of this ruling. And I think this is a perfect example for the argument. We have a current president trying to defend the secrets and intelligent sources of the country and a Judge is arguing that the former president should have more say in that decision than the current President based on some "executive privilege". Doesn't that negate the power of the current President granted by Article II of the Constitution?
It is apparently the 'unitary executive' when Republicans are president and 'unitary executive along with anyone else who previously held the office' when Democrats are president.
 

kage69

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Yep, electrician I know that works with his dad, the dad yanked all his Trump stickers from his personal truck at some point recently. This is the guy who announced aloud on a work site one day that the Dems had a platform that included eventual widespread culling of white male babies immediately after birth. He pretty much stopped talking to me after I made his son laugh by referring to QAnon as trailerpark Scientology.



Change is in the air. Trump's special treatment continues with this special master concession, but it will only afford him time. It's not going to solve the treason, obstruction, election interference and espionage problems he has. Certainly won't do anything about the RICO boot Georgia is about to insert into that orange Russian loving ass.
 
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eelw

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Oh just normal stuff you'd put in a presidential library. It's probably going on the shelf somewhere along with a connect the dots puzzle of Jamal Khashoggi's body parts.
But funny former orange monkey fans attempting to both sides this because someone in the DOJ is leaking these details to the media.
 

Dave_5k

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Re: foreign nuclear response plans, capabilities, and defenses stolen by Trump:
Oh just normal stuff you'd put in a presidential library. It's probably going on the shelf somewhere along with a connect the dots puzzle of Jamal Khashoggi's body parts.
Nah, Trump was having them framed to update the Mar-a-Lago bar wall decorations.
 

fskimospy

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Oh just normal stuff you'd put in a presidential library. It's probably going on the shelf somewhere along with a connect the dots puzzle of Jamal Khashoggi's body parts.
Well at least whatever country had their defense capabilities stolen and stored at a country club can take solace that since Trump had already declassified their defense data it wasn’t technically being mishandled.
 

Roger Wilco

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I’m curious about the “president of France” folder. Was that a cryptic title, or did Trump just forgo attempting to spell Macron?
 

Denly

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But, sadly, I think he's right. Trump is basically untouchable. He won't face any serious consequences for this any more than he did during the Mueller investigation.

Nothing would thrill me more (politcally) that to see that orange piece of shit behind bars for the rest of his life...unless he was executed for treason...but neither will happen. "His" USSC has his back.

Hated to say, the more time passed by the more likely Trump won't even get any consequences. If this(at a min mishandling top secret) happens to anyone less than top 1%er they likely won't see any day light for a long time.
 

Dave_5k

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I’m curious about the “president of France” folder. Was that a cryptic title, or did Trump just forgo attempting to spell Macron?
Might have been the confidential Trump plans (via Putin) on coordinated efforts to get Le Pen elected, rather than about Macron? Or could have been blackmail material on both candidates. With Trump, one never knows...
 

trenchfoot

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That Trump appointed judge just sacrificed herself at the Alter of The Orange God of Idiocracy. She is being ridiculed and lambasted from every street corner and from most every prestigious pundit of political legalese for her ridiculously contrived interpretation of the Laws of the land in order to give Trump the ability to waste more of The People's time invested toward indicting his ass for those numerous laws he violated before, during and after his term in office.

I'd sure like to know how she had the gall to pull off that blatant act of shamelessly assisting Trump's efforts toward delaying the gov't's efforts at all fronts. She exposed how she is nothing more than another corrupted lackey in the GOP's stable of sacrificial lambs. Too bad there's not much that can be done toward jacking her ass off of that bench she lords over.
 

Roger Wilco

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Saw this on Reddit, someone "guessing" Russia/China now know what US knows about them.

Russia arrests top hypersonic research scientist in treason case

I hope they don’t know about our hydrosonic missiles too.

 

Zorba

Lifer
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That Trump appointed judge just sacrificed herself at the Alter of The Orange God of Idiocracy. She is being ridiculed and lambasted from every street corner and from most every prestigious pundit of political legalese for her ridiculously contrived interpretation of the Laws of the land in order to give Trump the ability to waste more of The People's time invested toward indicting his ass for those numerous laws he violated before, during and after his term in office.

I'd sure like to know how she had the gall to pull off that blatant act of shamelessly assisting Trump's efforts toward delaying the gov't's efforts at all fronts. She exposed how she is nothing more than another corrupted lackey in the GOP's stable of sacrificial lambs. Too bad there's not much that can be done toward jacking her ass off of that bench she lords over.
Easy, life time appointment with no possibility of impeachment or other consequence.
 
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