As I’ve said earlier, one can’t truly both sides the argument unless they ignore the facts that show how much a hypocrite they are.There are a few outspoken members on the far right here that willfully ignore any counterpoints to their arguments, even ignoring any factual citations that counter their argument. That is not "has bad ideas" but actual willful trolling.
As I’ve said earlier, one can’t truly both sides the argument unless they ignore the facts that show how much a hypocrite they are.
I'm surprised that nobody at the J6 committee has figured out that if they send Trump a free KFC flyer that he'd show up for them to question. Of course it has to be a spicy flyer with Stormie in a negligee holding a rolled up Time magazine in one hand and a bucket of KFC in the other.
You think Biden has been very successful at reaching out to the other side?Biden has been very successful at reaching out to both sides and it is probably responsible for his victories in 2020 and 2022. That history is only like a month old!
Yeah, I think that’s undeniable. Look at his margins with independents. Again this is very recent history!You think Biden has been very successful at reaching out to the other side?
Oh really?
This is wrong. It is not about the issues, it is about the solutions.I’ve told people before who are ideologically opposed to me that I bet we could easily come up with 5-10 major issues that we agree on. Our differences would be on how those issues are addressed. One of the big issues we have today when it comes to discussing politics is how things are framed.
For example:
It’s not about pro abortion or anti abortion, it’s about bodily autonomy. I bet all sides can agree that reducing the amount of abortions is a good thing. Why not start from there instead going straight to solution A or solution B?
It’s not about banning guns or taking peoples guns, it’s about reducing gun violence. Are there people who are against reducing gun violence?
It’s not about being for more or less government spending it’s about government being more efficient. Whether that means less wasteful spending or better policies, most people can agree that spending money on policies that don’t do what they are supposed to or are inefficient in what they do do is not a good. Why not have discussions on what good policy and good spending looks like?
Defunding the police isn’t about removing police from the community, it’s about creating a better policing system. Is anyone against reforming our criminal system to be more effective, less wasteful, accountable, and safer for everyone?
Health care isn’t about universal health care or even single payer, it’s about making it more affordable, accessible, and effective. Anyone against that?
Unfortunately, when over half this country has been brainwashed into thinking that government is the problem, there isn’t much hope in creating a better system because they’ve already been primed to reject all ideas that aim to improve government.
As Benevolent Dictator of the AT Left-Handed Club, I must vociferously oppose such a policy.This is wrong. It is not about the issues, it is about the solutions.
I don't even agree that everyone wants the same things.
For a number of people abortion is not about bodily autonomy, as you pointed out few are against bodily autonomy. It is about a belief that a fertilized egg is a person and that makes abortion murder. This is more then a disagreement on the proper amount of freedom of bodily autonomy, it is a fundamental difference in how people view the world. Let's move the argument just a bit. Lets say you don't think left handed people are real people, and so it is okay to kill them. Other disagree with you. Are you going to claim that is just a framing issue of which hand a pencil should be held?
The same goes for basically all the other things you posted. Sure we all agree we shouldn't waste taxpayer money. What we don't agree on is what is a waste. Is feeding the poor wasteful? Is building spaceships wasteful? It is a fundamental difference in what we value.
We as a society have distilled the most of the easy answers out already, now we are facing the things that we will never agree on. Compromise is required, but how do we compromise on things we hold as fundamental truths? Should we only be allowed to kill left handed people that use left handed scissors as well?
We may believe them more if the same people cared about them once they are born.For a number of people abortion is not about bodily autonomy, as you pointed out few are against bodily autonomy. It is about a belief that a fertilized egg is a person and that makes abortion murder. This is more then a disagreement on the proper amount of freedom of bodily autonomy, it is a fundamental difference in how people view the world.
As a color blind and left handed individual that should not have been in the profession I was in, I concur.As Benevolent Dictator of the AT Left-Handed Club, I must vociferously oppose such a policy.
This is wrong. It is not about the issues, it is about the solutions.
I don't even agree that everyone wants the same things.
For a number of people abortion is not about bodily autonomy, as you pointed out few are against bodily autonomy. It is about a belief that a fertilized egg is a person and that makes abortion murder. This is more then a disagreement on the proper amount of freedom of bodily autonomy, it is a fundamental difference in how people view the world. Let's move the argument just a bit. Lets say you don't think left handed people are real people, and so it is okay to kill them. Other disagree with you. Are you going to claim that is just a framing issue of which hand a pencil should be held?
The same goes for basically all the other things you posted. Sure we all agree we shouldn't waste taxpayer money. What we don't agree on is what is a waste. Is feeding the poor wasteful? Is building spaceships wasteful? It is a fundamental difference in what we value.
We as a society have distilled the most of the easy answers out already, now we are facing the things that we will never agree on. Compromise is required, but how do we compromise on things we hold as fundamental truths? Should we only be allowed to kill left handed people that use left handed scissors as well?
As Benevolent Dictator of the AT Left-Handed Club, I must vociferously oppose such a policy.
I agree with you in premise, but I am really close to at least a few people that are 'Anti-Abortion' and I am convinced that all of them are lying to themselves about it. They truly believe that it is about stopping murder, but I agree with you that they don't really act that way. Having a belief is a lot easier than consistently acting on a belief.Your post is one of those that I want to agree with, but because I'm not going to eschew reality, and thus, applying that lens to the actual situation, shows it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Sorry but anti-abortion people regularly show how dishonest they are in believing a fetus is an actual person, as evidenced by how they treat actual people. It is blatantly about controlling womens' bodily autonomy and attempting to subjugate them, especially sexually.
You don't have to care about a person to want them to not be murdered.We may believe them more if the same people cared about them once they are born.
This is wrong. It is not about the issues, it is about the solutions.
I don't even agree that everyone wants the same things.
For a number of people abortion is not about bodily autonomy, as you pointed out few are against bodily autonomy. It is about a belief that a fertilized egg is a person and that makes abortion murder. This is more then a disagreement on the proper amount of freedom of bodily autonomy, it is a fundamental difference in how people view the world. Let's move the argument just a bit. Lets say you don't think left handed people are real people, and so it is okay to kill them. Other disagree with you. Are you going to claim that is just a framing issue of which hand a pencil should be held?
The same goes for basically all the other things you posted. Sure we all agree we shouldn't waste taxpayer money. What we don't agree on is what is a waste. Is feeding the poor wasteful? Is building spaceships wasteful? It is a fundamental difference in what we value.
We as a society have distilled the most of the easy answers out already, now we are facing the things that we will never agree on. Compromise is required, but how do we compromise on things we hold as fundamental truths? Should we only be allowed to kill left handed people that use left handed scissors as well?
You just proved my point
As founder and overlord I support thisAs Benevolent Dictator of the AT Left-Handed Club, I must vociferously oppose such a policy.
Hope she choaked upon having to read it out.Cannon officially ends it, declares the case “moot”, cancels all future appointments, etc:
I assume the DOJ now officially has access to all documents needed for a possible indictment? Trump will soon Truth in all CAPS something about how Judge Cannon is weak RINO who is corrupted by deep state. I'm assuming Trump is still on the hook for the costs of the Special Master? He asked for the special master, he got the special master, even though the Eleventh wouldn’t permit him to wrongly delay proceedings with his tactics. Maybe Dearie will put a lien on Mar-a-Lago.
Also - Jack Smith has subpoenaed Brad Raffensperger.
Hope she choaked upon having to read it out.
Well Trump popularity is dropping like a rock; though what still scares the heck out of me is the GOP want trumpism without trump (i.e, they buy into trump created policies of bigotry they just want someone less toxic to push them. But given how toxic the policies are doesn't it take a toxic waste to push them ?
Indeed. With only the tax bill and judges (but he doesn’t deserve any credit, all Mitch) he actually stood a chance to be re-electedIf not for the endless Trump self inflicted wounds the base policies would have probably been good enough to win a general.
Look at what you did. Now you have Moonie agreeing with you.You just proved my point