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fskimospy

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I don’t think they believe it’s the policies. Or that Trump is wrong, they just think he’s a bit too uncouth.

If not for the endless Trump self inflicted wounds the base policies would have probably been good enough to win a general. Hence we get the push for Ron DeSantis.
Hard to know the counterfactual but Trump's popularity hit its nadir when he was enacting those base policies. Much more than the clowning it was the policies he enacted that people hated the most.
 

hal2kilo

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Hard to know the counterfactual but Trump's popularity hit its nadir when he was enacting those base policies. Much more than the clowning it was the policies he enacted that people hated the most.
Then you are not talking about the base.
 

MrSquished

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Yeah, I think that’s undeniable. Look at his margins with independents. Again this is very recent history!
Independents are the other side?

If you think independents are the other side, let me tell you about this party called the Republicans.

Oy.
 

rommelrommel

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Hard to know the counterfactual but Trump's popularity hit its nadir when he was enacting those base policies. Much more than the clowning it was the policies he enacted that people hated the most.

Which policies did so poorly with Republicans and the sliver of independents they need? Real question as I didn’t read the governance as putting off those people.
 

fskimospy

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Which policies did so poorly with Republicans and the sliver of independents they need? Real question as I didn’t read the governance as putting off those people.
Trump’s tax cuts and attempts to repeal the ACA were super unpopular. For real, go look at 538’s approval tracker - the only time he was less popular was when he tried to overthrow the government, which I guess is also a base pleasing policy, haha.
 

hal2kilo

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This has been my whole concern about the pilfered classified documents from the start. As a person who handled classified data rather regularly as part of my job, it's insulting to all of the other DOD, intelligence, law enforcement, and contractors who conscientiously handle classified material in a responsible manner. I know it's hard to believe, but I'd rather get all this material back and in a properly secured storage facility, and a complete accounting of what's missing, so the intelligence community can make an assessment of the damage done to our national security, than get a conviction.

“I would be looking at money trails”: Security expert sounds the alarm over Mar-a-Lago docs storage | Salon.com

She continued, "I get physically ill because I think of the potential damage for people out there on the field, potential damage to things that have been in the works for decades. Things that people give their lives for — Fathers, mothers, daughters, sons. I mean, people who have served. That is what I think about."

She also offered a word of advice that might be beneficial for the ongoing investigation. "At this point, I would be looking at money trails here," she advised. "Because how did people not know that this was there? Certainly, someone did. Where did those documents go, where does that lead to, why were they there, and who benefited from this?"
 
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MtnMan

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Well Trump popularity is dropping like a rock; though what still scares the heck out of me is the GOP want trumpism without trump (i.e, they buy into trump created policies of bigotry they just want someone less toxic to push them. But given how toxic the policies are doesn't it take a toxic waste to push them ?
Yet the most extreme and dangerous right-wingers, which is probably 40%+ of the republicans, are still fawning over him like he is the second coming.
 
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