So i was going to post a link to this:
but i was too slow; so now he is schedule to testify no friday; now who wants to wager there will be another appeal; which they will also not win; and so forth .... until they can no longer appeal....
So i was going to post a link to this:Appeals court rules against Trump attorney, ordering him to comply with subpoena in classified documents case
Trump's legal team had appealed a lower court ruling that attorney-client privilege should not shield attorney from interview by special counsel investigators.www.cbsnews.com
Appeals court denied appeal. Will he still appeal to SCOTUS?
So i was going to post a link to this:
but i was too slow; so now he is schedule to testify no friday; now who wants to wager there will be another appeal; which they will also not win; and so forth .... until they can no longer appeal....
Oh, it's happening. Some people on this forum actually believe Trump will not be indicted. Really?So i was going to post a link to this:
but i was too slow; so now he is schedule to testify no friday; now who wants to wager there will be another appeal; which they will also not win; and so forth .... until they can no longer appeal....
Accidental possession isn’t a crime, only willful and knowing unauthorized possession is. That being said, there is already a mountain of evidence that Trump knew he had them. Like, a huge mountain.the big thing about this is if the lawyer was told directly by t(u)r(d)ump that he had no more classified documents so that he would represent that to the feds, then if they can find evidence that t(u)r(d)ump possessed papers when he told the lawyer it is a whole new crime. it goes from the accidental possession to willful retention of classified material along with conspiracy to lie/misrepresent/deceive law enforcement official.
There also seems to be a possible recording involved.Accidental possession isn’t a crime, only willful and knowing unauthorized possession is. That being said, there is already a mountain of evidence that Trump knew he had them. Like, a huge mountain.
The issue here is if his lawyer testified how we think he did now Trump lied to federal officials which is another felony. Even worse for Trump this is another piece on the pile that Trump knowingly concealed these documents. He’s fucked.
I would phrase it - we hope he is fucked; and there is an easy out; if he gets re-elected in 2024 he can pardon himself....Accidental possession isn’t a crime, only willful and knowing unauthorized possession is. That being said, there is already a mountain of evidence that Trump knew he had them. Like, a huge mountain.
The issue here is if his lawyer testified how we think he did now Trump lied to federal officials which is another felony. Even worse for Trump this is another piece on the pile that Trump knowingly concealed these documents. He’s fucked.
I would phrase it - we hope he is fucked; and there is an easy out; if he gets re-elected in 2024 he can pardon himself....
Yes but he can pardon away the mar-a-lago and jan 6 issues. The ny charge is weak even if convicted so that really just leaves Georgia.... though if he was convicted of Jan 6 issue prior to being elected then he would be bar from running again (also I think one of the mar-a-lago potential charge has the same effect; the problem is that these trials (much less conviction are year(s) away).Pssst…he cannot pardon away state charges.
You don’t even know what the New York charges will be. I think people are strongly underestimating the potential for major felonies there.Yes but he can pardon away the mar-a-lago and jan 6 issues. The ny charge is weak even if convicted so that really just leaves Georgia.... though if he was convicted of Jan 6 issue prior to being elected then he would be bar from running again (also I think one of the mar-a-lago potential charge has the same effect; the problem is that these trials (much less conviction are year(s) away).
The most he can be hit for are campaign finance chargesYou don’t even know what the New York charges will be. I think people are strongly underestimating the potential for major felonies there.
That is definitely not true.The most he can be hit for are campaign finance charges
You don’t even know what the New York charges will be. I think people are strongly underestimating the potential for major felonies there.
I’m still waiting for those charges. Any day now.He can already be charged with this NY state law - "According to New York Penal Code § 120.15 you will face a charge of menacing in the third degree if you do anything that puts another person in reasonable fear of physical injury or death. It is a class B misdemeanor." This could rise to another level if it involves a threat to a public official, and especially a state DA which would also bring obstruction of justice charges. Arrest the POS already.
He will be charged with multiple felonies.I’m still waiting for those charges. Any day now.
I stand by there will be no significant charges.
In regards to Stormy Daniel’s, what felonies? Again, it isn’t illegal to pay off someone for their silence. Yes Stormy felt threatened but can it really be proven bodily harm was possible?He will be charged with multiple felonies.
He can already be charged with this NY state law - "According to New York Penal Code § 120.15 you will face a charge of menacing in the third degree if you do anything that puts another person in reasonable fear of physical injury or death. It is a class B misdemeanor." This could rise to another level if it involves a threat to a public official, and especially a state DA which would also bring obstruction of justice charges. Arrest the POS already.
Not Stormy, the DA. I italicized the pertinent part of his post above. He (Trump) had posted a shopped pic of himself holding a bat next to the DA. It could be argued it was a threat, maybe. Might be hard to prove.In regards to Stormy Daniel’s, what felonies? Again, it isn’t illegal to pay off someone for their silence. Yes Stormy felt threatened but can it really be proven bodily harm was possible?
Falsifying business records, for one.In regards to Stormy Daniel’s, what felonies? Again, it isn’t illegal to pay off someone for their silence. Yes Stormy felt threatened but can it really be proven bodily harm was possible?
Let’s move to Cohen’s pleading guilty charges. His lying to federal officials and tax invasion was on him only. The campaign finance is the only thing that applies to
the orange monkey.
If they charge Trump at all, which I still think is about a 50/50 shot at best, and they charge him with falsifying business records in the first degree, which is the felony offense, they will almost certainly plead it down to falsifying business records in the second degree, which is a misdemeanor. Because to prove the first degree required them to prove not only that he falsified business records but that he did it with the intent to commit another crime, which in this case will be much more difficult.
No. There was talk that it could be escalated to a felony if one can draw connection to something or other (I think concealing the act or something or other - i forget the details). There is a secondary thing of his 'threatening' the da recently but that would be a different matter (not sure if it would be the same trail or something new). The real problem (I see) is that it is already q1 2023; can any of these issues be resolved to a conviction prior to q4 of 2024.The most he can be hit for are campaign finance charges
I have to note you have now gone from ‘it’s very unlikely he will be charged’ to now it’s 50/50. The odds of him being charged have always been over 90%.If they charge Trump at all, which I still think is about a 50/50 shot at best, and they charge him with falsifying business records in the first degree, which is the felony offense, they will almost certainly plead it down to falsifying business records in the second degree, which is a misdemeanor. Because to prove the first degree required them to prove not only that he falsified business records but that he did it with the intent to commit another crime, which in this case will be much more difficult.
All that is going to happen is that Trump will have to pay a small fine, and the DA knows this, and that is why I say it is only a 50/50 chance they will charge him at all. The DA might very well decide it is not in the interest of the state to deal with the fallout of indicting Trump for such a small payoff.