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Pens1566

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The crimes would be charged together. Still, I think it’s clear this does not rest on a federal charge.


I personally doubt only that misdemeanor charge will be brought.

As for what will absolutely not happen I can’t help but notice how until fairly recently people thought criminal charges against him absolutely wouldn’t happen. Now we are at prison absolutely won’t happen. I don’t think people have a good picture of how much criminal trouble this guy is in.

I think you're misreading the earlier posts ... I never intended to suggest that it required a fed charge, but that the only realistic charge that fit the facts would be the Edwards parallel. It doesn't change the point. It's unproven, and unprecedented. That's the reason it's being discussed as such.

And for the record, I've never said he won't be charged. I believe my guesses have wavered between 25-40% that he would be charged at some point, but that the outcome of those charges would be minimal (if at all) due to leaning towards minor/process-type crimes, delaying as much as possible, and other issues revolving around pristine virgin legal grounds that would all be appealed until his inevitable demise. He will never see any level of punishment that is commensurate with his actions.
 
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fskimospy

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I think you're misreading the earlier posts ... I never intended to suggest that it required a fed charge, but that the only realistic charge that fit the facts would be the Edwards parallel. It doesn't change the point. It's unproven, and unprecedented. That's the reason it's being discussed as such.

And for the record, I've never said he won't be charged. I believe my guesses have wavered between 25-40% that he would be charged at some point, but that the outcome of those charges would be minimal (if at all) due to leaning towards minor/process-type crimes, delaying as much as possible, and other issues revolving around pristine virgin legal grounds that would all be appealed until his inevitable demise. He will never see any level of punishment that is commensurate with his actions.
I agree there’s a decent chance that he’s able to delay these trials long enough to die but no, he’s going to face serious felony charges.
 

you2

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Speculation is wonderful but remember it is only speculation; lets wait and see if he is charged and if so with what crime. Personally I think at this point he has to be charged as he has threatened the DA and stuck his supporter in congress on the DA (and they are behaving in a most inappropriate fashion which demonstrate their complete lack for rule of law (hint i'm talking about trying to interfere in an active state investigation)). I wonder what his cronies in congress will do if/when GA charge Trump with a crime.
 

you2

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I agree there’s a decent chance that he’s able to delay these trials long enough to die but no, he’s going to face serious felony charges.

Not sure; judges are beginning to grow tired of Trump's delay tactics as we've seen in NY and elsewhere.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
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Incoming emergency stay pending appeal from DC ct of appeals. Followed by same to SCOTUS if necessary.
 

eelw

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Incoming emergency stay pending appeal from DC ct of appeals. Followed by same to SCOTUS if necessary.
Yes they’ll go through the motions, but the appellate court has been super quick to deny. So not worried about delays. And oddly the last few loses have been accepted by the orange monkey and not bother going to SCOTUS.
 
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rommelrommel

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Yes they’ll go through the motions, but the appellate court has been super quick to deny. So not worried about delays. And oddly the last few loses have been accepted by the orange monkey and not bother going to SCOTUS.

Part of the game plan to paint all the courts as politically biased against him, another institution to delegitimize.
 
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QueBert

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INDITED! While it's far from over, at least he's going to finally have to go to court and face potential consequences for some of the shit he's done.

I just went to Fox News to a story about this to see what the MAGA fools posted about this. And chuckled when a video popped up talking about Hunter Biden and his magical laptop.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Fine you’re right about being indicted, now let’s see if there is a penalty and if that penalty is substantial

I'm also curious about how this will play out, including how much terrorism conservatives plan on committing because their golden calf is being attacked.
 
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you2

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I'm also curious about how this will play out, including how much terrorism conservatives plan on committing because their golden calf is being attacked.
House republicans are without morals; expect to see a lot of crap here. I hate to see what happens if trump is indicted in Georgia as well as by the feds for illegally retaining classified documents. Btw on Fox news he recently admitted it was his god given right to those documents and he had no intention of returning them.
 

hal2kilo

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House republicans are without morals; expect to see a lot of crap here. I hate to see what happens if trump is indicted in Georgia as well as by the feds for illegally retaining classified documents. Btw on Fox news he recently admitted it was his god given right to those documents and he had no intention of returning them.
Just more evidence. Thanks Trump.
 
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akenbennu

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House republicans are without morals; expect to see a lot of crap here. I hate to see what happens if trump is indicted in Georgia as well as by the feds for illegally retaining classified documents. Btw on Fox news he recently admitted it was his god given right to those documents and he had no intention of returning them.
Locker room talk, it was all bluster. /s
 
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PlanetJosh

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What about any police being sympathetic to Trump? I guess it could be applied to the documents case too but he hasn't been indicted for that. So back to yesterday's indictment and concerning security involved with it.

I'm comparing it to the police letting protestors and rioters through some gates in the January 6 (2021) Capital riots. Will some police let a mob get through outer perimeter security to get closer to more secure areas of any of the Trump legal proceedings in the next few days and weeks? Unless only a few rioters show up then never mind.
 
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