News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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fskimospy

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IF they tell the truth...lotta MAGAs on his detail.
They might, but lying to federal prosecutors is a lot more dangerous than lying to Congress.

That is one of the FBI’s go-to moves. Ask you a question that they already know the answer to but is incriminating to someone. If you answer truthfully fine, if you lie now they have you for a felony - then they ask if you would prefer to cooperate or to go to prison.
 

hal2kilo

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Well, I learned a new word today "scienter".


As Smith's team presents its evidence before a grand jury, former senior FBI counterintelligence official Pete Strzok warned that the revelation in the latest report "feels obstruction-y," adding that there is a lot of "scienter & motive in here."

This is what will ultimately take him down.
 

GoPackGo

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If he would have conceded the election November 2020, he would not be in the legal jeopardy he is in today.
 
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fskimospy

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It would definitely be at a lower "temperature". But, he just begs for justice to fall on him.
Yeah I mean the NA and the DOJ went way out of their way to try and avoid charging him with the documents, he just stole so many and was so open about never returning them he forced their hand.
 
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hal2kilo

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Yeah I mean the NA and the DOJ went way out of their way to try and avoid charging him with the documents, he just stole so many and was so open about never returning them he forced their hand.
That's the way I see it.
 

GoPackGo

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Yeah I mean the NA and the DOJ went way out of their way to try and avoid charging him with the documents, he just stole so many and was so open about never returning them he forced their hand.
If he just returned them it would have been a non-issue. I think he has given the middle finger to our justice system too many times for it to be ignored.
 

hal2kilo

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They might, but lying to federal prosecutors is a lot more dangerous than lying to Congress.

That is one of the FBI’s go-to moves. Ask you a question that they already know the answer to but is incriminating to someone. If you answer truthfully fine, if you lie now they have you for a felony - then they ask if you would prefer to cooperate or to go to prison.
So there is a perjury trap after all. /s
 
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hal2kilo

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Heaven, I'm in heaven...

This is the ultimate charge I've been looking for, with this whole adventure.


Investigators have asked whether Trump showed classified documents, including maps, to political donors, The Washington Post reported earlier this month.

The Post reported that investigators have compiled evidence of possible obstruction by Trump, including evidence that the former president personally rummaged through boxes of sensitive information after being hit with a subpoena for their return. But investigators are also interested in what Trump did with the documents after leaving office.

Investigators have asked when Trump was at Mar-a-Lago last year and whether he stayed there to look at the boxes before DOJ officials went to the club to retrieve them in June, according to the Times.

Trump usually leaves Florida for his Bedminster, N.J., club earlier than he did last year and was present when DOJ officials visited on June 3, according to the report. Trump had aides bring him boxes to sift through after a grand jury subpoena was issued in May, sources told the outlet.

New York University Law Prof. Ryan Goodman predicted that evidence of Trump disseminating national defense information "could put this case into [the] echelon of more serious charges under Espionage Act."

Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg agreed that Smith likely isn't asking about the map to build an obstruction case.

"I think the reason that they asked about the map is another statute, 18 USC 719 (e), 'The Espionage Statute,' says that someone who is unauthorized to have possession of a map and then shows it to someone who can't see it violates that statute," he told MSNBC. "So, they're not just going after him for obstruction, but also espionage, which is punishable by up to ten years in prison. That's why there's a lot of trouble ahead.

Attorney George Conway told MSNBC that the Mar-a-Lago case is "the shortest distance between Donald John Trump and an orange jumpsuit."
 

ivwshane

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Heaven, I'm in heaven...

This is the ultimate charge I've been looking for, with this whole adventure.


Investigators have asked whether Trump showed classified documents, including maps, to political donors, The Washington Post reported earlier this month.

The Post reported that investigators have compiled evidence of possible obstruction by Trump, including evidence that the former president personally rummaged through boxes of sensitive information after being hit with a subpoena for their return. But investigators are also interested in what Trump did with the documents after leaving office.

Investigators have asked when Trump was at Mar-a-Lago last year and whether he stayed there to look at the boxes before DOJ officials went to the club to retrieve them in June, according to the Times.

Trump usually leaves Florida for his Bedminster, N.J., club earlier than he did last year and was present when DOJ officials visited on June 3, according to the report. Trump had aides bring him boxes to sift through after a grand jury subpoena was issued in May, sources told the outlet.

New York University Law Prof. Ryan Goodman predicted that evidence of Trump disseminating national defense information "could put this case into [the] echelon of more serious charges under Espionage Act."

Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg agreed that Smith likely isn't asking about the map to build an obstruction case.

"I think the reason that they asked about the map is another statute, 18 USC 719 (e), 'The Espionage Statute,' says that someone who is unauthorized to have possession of a map and then shows it to someone who can't see it violates that statute," he told MSNBC. "So, they're not just going after him for obstruction, but also espionage, which is punishable by up to ten years in prison. That's why there's a lot of trouble ahead.

Attorney George Conway told MSNBC that the Mar-a-Lago case is "the shortest distance between Donald John Trump and an orange jumpsuit."

That’s too good to be true.
 
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Pens1566

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Heaven, I'm in heaven...

This is the ultimate charge I've been looking for, with this whole adventure.


Investigators have asked whether Trump showed classified documents, including maps, to political donors, The Washington Post reported earlier this month.

The Post reported that investigators have compiled evidence of possible obstruction by Trump, including evidence that the former president personally rummaged through boxes of sensitive information after being hit with a subpoena for their return. But investigators are also interested in what Trump did with the documents after leaving office.

Investigators have asked when Trump was at Mar-a-Lago last year and whether he stayed there to look at the boxes before DOJ officials went to the club to retrieve them in June, according to the Times.

Trump usually leaves Florida for his Bedminster, N.J., club earlier than he did last year and was present when DOJ officials visited on June 3, according to the report. Trump had aides bring him boxes to sift through after a grand jury subpoena was issued in May, sources told the outlet.

New York University Law Prof. Ryan Goodman predicted that evidence of Trump disseminating national defense information "could put this case into [the] echelon of more serious charges under Espionage Act."

Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg agreed that Smith likely isn't asking about the map to build an obstruction case.

"I think the reason that they asked about the map is another statute, 18 USC 719 (e), 'The Espionage Statute,' says that someone who is unauthorized to have possession of a map and then shows it to someone who can't see it violates that statute," he told MSNBC. "So, they're not just going after him for obstruction, but also espionage, which is punishable by up to ten years in prison. That's why there's a lot of trouble ahead.

Attorney George Conway told MSNBC that the Mar-a-Lago case is "the shortest distance between Donald John Trump and an orange jumpsuit."

I'd love it, especially later in the summer.
 
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shortylickens

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Lol this wouldn't have any impact on the documents case
Well, maybe.
Its possible the courts and prosecutors finally got fed up with him because of all the mouthing off. As he was a former president, he'd be given a great deal of leeway on old crime. But he had to go and commit treason and demand armed insurrection and it could have motivated them to find something where they would not have bothered under normal circumstances.
Bill and Hillary ripped off a shitload of people with their whitewater real estate or whatever. Nothing serious happened.
 

cytg111

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Remember talking jan 6th and you all were like, cant happen cause he aint got the generals? Lol I am not saying that is the connection. I am not not saying it either though.

Would be sick if he has proud morons on the ready to get Milley.
 
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MrSquished

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This and Georgia are the two cases where he might actually receive real punishment, if they are not delayed long enough for a republican to win the presidency and pardon him.

It's amusing though that some people think the hush money case will land Trump in prison. That's just funny.
 

eelw

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This and Georgia are the two cases where he might actually receive real punishment, if they are not delayed long enough for a republican to win the presidency and pardon him.

It's amusing though that some people think the hush money case will land Trump in prison. That's just funny.
I don’t know, when he gets convicted for the documents, I’m still inclined that sentence will be house arrest. Like hardly any hardship for him in a golf resort.
 
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