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[zinfamous]

Prominent Republican openly calling for violence.

MSN

One has to wonder why nearly every Republican in leadership and pretty much every single Republican voter to an individual, never wants to call out these commands to murder--generally in the name of their murder-demanding God--and suggest that attacking the United States and murdering everyone because your feelings are hurt and you refuse to support evidence and fact-based reality is a requirement of "patriots."

Or maybe one doesn't have to wonder for very long. It is of course a fact that contemporary Republicans are the absolute worst, most dangerous demographic of humans that have ever lived anywhere on this planet, so I guess that we should expect this sort of silence from all of them. I wonder what our local taint-lickers think about this, and if they ever spend the time to discuss this with their fellow Republicans at any serious level, or just occasionally comment on here "that's not me!" but never actually do anything meaningful about it.

 

[Muse]

The problem is very few republicans actually have a conscience or a brain; and that seems to be the key ingredient of being a republican.

I have never voted for a single person registered as a Republican and I never will. It is my hope that they are crushed in the 2024 general. It should be yours. I am talking to you, whoever is reading my post here.

 

[you2]

As far as DeSanctimonious goes, or any of the others, I doubt they will do one damn thing to actually change the DOJ. Not one thing. It's all bs talk. Oh sure, they might appoint cronies to run the departments like Trump did but if they try doing that then massive resignations would result.
Naw, they threaten and talk the big talk but if ever in power they will do nothing to change nothing because no problem exists in the first place. And they know that. Even DeSanctimonious knows that.
OH MY GOD, what they will say to get elected.... It's called desperation.

Naw - all one has to do is look at what he is doing in florida to realize he is serious.

 

[Muse]

Naw - all one has to do is look at what he is doing in florida to realize he is serious.

I know a guy who had a career at the EPA for a long time. He told me he was really glad he retired when he did, which was just before Trump gutted the EPA.

 

[Zorba]

Sont Republican openly calling for violence.

MSN

So what happens when some Trumpers start shooting up the court house? Will these shit stains actually be charged or is all just protected political speech? I thought calling for the violent overthrow of the government wasn't protected?

 

[zinfamous]

Naw - all one has to do is look at what he is doing in florida to realize he is serious.

Yeah, for sure. I don't understand the so-called liberals around here that seem to think DeSantis is just play acting, or at worst--our glorious federal system will prevent him from stamping his pure fascist agenda on the rest of this country.

Most of the people here have lost your fucking minds and @MrSquished has been more correct than everyone else about this, tbh. One simple important point: I find it baffling that we all are in agreement that Mitch-Trump systematic dismantling of the federal judiciary has absolutely perverted the power structure in this country, to a point that we absolutely no longer have a balance between the legislature and the judiciary--we all fucking agree with this, without question--but many here turn right around and try to argue that this very same system is what is going to save us from psychopaths like Trump and DeSantis. Like, how do you understand the problem and the insidious reason behind stealing minority rightwing-theocratic control over a western democracy, but then argue that those very same broken systems are perfectly fine going forward? I think a lot of brains are broken here.

It's honestly not unlike most of the Germans c. 1927-35. Whether or not you even begrudgingly supported the Nazis, the liberals of that time still assumed "Well, we have protections in our system!" We all understand that the prideful fascists in this country, newly-empowered, are exactly that, but few here want to acknowledge their own laissez-faire participation in the end of our country. It's ridiculous.

And yet, here we are, slow-walking the death of liberty that the GOP is all too happy to shove down your timid throats. And they will absolutely do it with violence.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, for sure. I don't understand the so-called liberals around here that seem to think DeSantis is just play acting, or at worst--our glorious federal system will prevent him from stamping his pure fascist agenda on the rest of this country.

Most of the people here have lost your fucking minds and @MrSquished has been more correct than everyone else about this, tbh. One simple important point: I find it baffling that we all are in agreement that Mitch-Trump systematic dismantling of the federal judiciary has absolutely perverted the power structure in this country, to a point that we absolutely no longer have a balance between the legislature and the judiciary--we all fucking agree with this, without question--but many here turn right around and try to argue that this very same system is what is going to save us from psychopaths like Trump and DeSantis. Like, how do you understand the problem and the insidious reason behind stealing minority rightwing-theocratic control over a western democracy, but then argue that those very same broken systems are perfectly fine going forward? I think a lot of brains are broken here.

It's honestly not unlike most of the Germans c. 1927-35. Whether or not you even begrudgingly supported the Nazis, the liberals of that time still assumed "Well, we have protections in our system!" We all understand that the prideful fascists in this country, newly-empowered, are exactly that, but few here want to acknowledge their own laissez-faire participation in the end of our country. It's ridiculous.

And yet, here we are, slow-walking the death of liberty that the GOP is all too happy to shove down your timid throats. And they will absolutely do it with violence.

Who are these people you’re talking about? I can’t say I’ve seen a single person on here say that. The only thing I’ve said about DeSantis is that his culture war shit is performative to win the Republican primary (and that is obviously correct) and that if he lost the election he wouldn’t try a coup.

What IS true though is if you believe that then it’s time for a preemptive strike. I tend to doubt the sincerity of people’s beliefs when they say conservatives are about to violently overthrow the government but then refuse to take the obvious corrective step of beating them to the punch. In fact if anything your brain is broken because you’re NOT advocating for the end of the system that you fully believe is going to lead us to fascism. Start calling for a Biden auto coup in the event he loses in 2024 and I’ll believe you.

 

[zinfamous]

Who are these people you’re talking about? I can’t say I’ve seen a single person on here say that. The only thing I’ve said about DeSantis is that his culture war shit is performative to win the Republican primary (and that is obviously correct) and that if he lost the election he wouldn’t try a coup.

What IS true though is if you believe that then it’s time for a preemptive strike. I tend to doubt the sincerity of people’s beliefs when they say conservatives are about to violently overthrow the government but then refuse to take the obvious corrective step of beating them to the punch. In fact if anything your brain is broken because you’re NOT advocating for the end of the system that you fully believe is going to lead us to fascism. Start calling for a Biden auto coup in the event he loses in 2024 and I’ll believe you.

That was the observation bomb I dropped from reading the last months of these threads, and I won't engage further, because I'm sick of the fucking sanctimony.

I know what I read. I'm not sure a lot of you know what you are saying.

Just the other week, DeSantis was selling his Florida program at a rally, the rest of the country, as "Uncompromising defense of law and order, liberty, American morality, and Christian principles." He is directly contrasting this to the protests over the last 3+ years that all the whities are so offended by. He isn't selling "woke," he's selling law and order. This will work, and you guys underestimate him thinking that he's not who he always says he is. Why you chose to be this way, I don't know.

 

[fskimospy]

That was the observation bomb I dropped from reading the last months of these threads, and I won't engage further, because I'm sick of the fucking sanctimony.

I know what I read. I'm not sure a lot of you know what you are saying.

I’ve read these threads and can’t think of a single person that thinks the way you describe, although maybe there’s one or two out there that I missed.

I’m not sure you know what you’re saying. If you believe your political opponents will violently overthrow the government and/or if they get in power again will never give it up then your path forward is clear.

I don’t want to hear complaining that people aren’t taking the threat seriously enough when it’s clear you don’t take the threat seriously.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Little Miss Judgie Poo finds herself on the hot seat ....

Donald Trump Prosecution Will Wait on Aileen Cannon to Implode—Lawyer​

Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance has reacted to suggestions the DoJ will seek to recuse pro-Trump judge from classified documents case.

 

[fskimospy]

That was the observation bomb I dropped from reading the last months of these threads, and I won't engage further, because I'm sick of the fucking sanctimony.

I know what I read. I'm not sure a lot of you know what you are saying.

Just the other week, DeSantis was selling his Florida program at a rally, the rest of the country, as "Uncompromising defense of law and order, liberty, American morality, and Christian principles." He is directly contrasting this to the protests over the last 3+ years that all the whities are so offended by. He isn't selling "woke," he's selling law and order. This will work, and you guys underestimate him thinking that he's not who he always says he is. Why you chose to be this way, I don't know.

I’m confused, what do you think this shows about him that people here ignore?

 

[eelw]

Little Miss Judgie Poo finds herself on the hot seat ....

Donald Trump Prosecution Will Wait on Aileen Cannon to Implode—Lawyer​

Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance has reacted to suggestions the DoJ will seek to recuse pro-Trump judge from classified documents case.

Yup as is, it looks bad if they demand she recuses herself immediately. But they definitely have their argument ready when she barely crosses a line.

 

[VRAMdemon]

What should the powers that be do, specifically? They conducted an investigation and indicted him on enough crimes that if convicted he would likely spend the remainder of his life in prison.

What else are they supposed to do at this time?

Uh well...If he keeps up his inflammatory rhetoric, (And especially, if people act on that rhetoric violently) It would behoove the powers that be to detain him... no? In light that he even said "I will never be detained" This fucker needs some real retribution when he shoots his mouth off and for consequences of an action...no?

Experts on political violence have always warned that attacks against people or institutions become more likely when elected officials or prominent media figures are able to issue threats or calls for violence with impunity. Trump's stochastic terror campaign has/will be conducted through others.(RWNJ's Kari Lake and the like)

If he keeps suggesting or threatening violence, that the government mayl be put in a position where they don’t have a choice but to try to move to detain him. In the real world, that’s what would happen if it was anybody but him. Normally, you can’t be threatening this type of stuff without being put in detention. Or at least a judge could put him under a gag order. Or at least threaten one.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Didn’t save the link however it’s good enough for Trump so I will do the same.
People are saying the Former President hasn’t secured a Lawyer yet and has been turned down by 2-3 prominent law firms. I guess they don’t want to be shit on and not paid.
Trial may get delayed due to him not having counsel. Also if this drags on too long he will get a Public Defender which would be epic.

 

[brycejones]

Prominent Republican openly calling for violence.

MSN

At least she has admitted they see Trump as their god. LOL

 

[eelw]

Not true. The 2 lead lawyers ran for the border but he still had 2/3 others on the team. But yes he’s going to use this as delay tactic for as long as possible.

 

[hal2kilo]

As far as DeSanctimonious goes, or any of the others, I doubt they will do one damn thing to actually change the DOJ. Not one thing. It's all bs talk. Oh sure, they might appoint cronies to run the departments like Trump did but if they try doing that then massive resignations would result.
Naw, they threaten and talk the big talk but if ever in power they will do nothing to change nothing because no problem exists in the first place. And they know that. Even DeSanctimonious knows that.
OH MY GOD, what they will say to get elected.... It's called desperation.

Back to Lindsey.... I just think someone gave little Lindsey a lobotomy at some point. Gave all these republicans a lobotomy. They all were so never-Trump while Trump played the candidate and was not the president. But after, flip flop.
It is indeed weird.

Politicians were afraid of J. Edgar Hoover because Hoover had private shit on each of the politicians. Hoover knew the dirty deeds of them all. However with Trump, Trump is different. Trump destroys politicians with words. And it works and it is very effective. Lindsey knows he could be destroyed with one word from Trump, or not more than two. Thus, Lindsey obeys. Either that, or.... he's a pod person. An inhuman plant-like creature sharing the brain of the king pod Donald Trump. Hell, maybe they all share the same brain? That could explain it too.
Wired one... Wired all...
My Q-niece will like that one.

I agree except that they willingly let him scare them.

 

[hal2kilo]

It seems none of his rivals have any intention of winning, their silence or support is crazy. Their fear of king donald’s base is amazing. Right wing media gave him this power and now they can’t control it like they thought they could. The money behind the right could stop trump but they won’t.

The fools can't figure out, that they can't out Trump, Trump. They are missing the opportunity of a lifetime not using this to go after him. None of those running, will get anywhere unless they do, Trump will be the Republican Party nominee.

 

[hal2kilo]

One has to wonder why nearly every Republican in leadership and pretty much every single Republican voter to an individual, never wants to call out these commands to murder--generally in the name of their murder-demanding God--and suggest that attacking the United States and murdering everyone because your feelings are hurt and you refuse to support evidence and fact-based reality is a requirement of "patriots."

Or maybe one doesn't have to wonder for very long. It is of course a fact that contemporary Republicans are the absolute worst, most dangerous demographic of humans that have ever lived anywhere on this planet, so I guess that we should expect this sort of silence from all of them. I wonder what our local taint-lickers think about this, and if they ever spend the time to discuss this with their fellow Republicans at any serious level, or just occasionally comment on here "that's not me!" but never actually do anything meaningful about it.

They are literally afraid for the lives, of their family members. The brown shirts are already out there.

 

[interchange]

Didn’t save the link however it’s good enough for Trump so I will do the same.
People are saying the Former President hasn’t secured a Lawyer yet and has been turned down by 2-3 prominent law firms. I guess they don’t want to be shit on and not paid.
Trial may get delayed due to him not having counsel. Also if this drags on too long he will get a Public Defender which would be epic.

There's that.

But he also has a tendency (as illustrated by the indictment itself) to ask his lawyers to do crimes for him. Not something you want in a client, I understand.

 

[fskimospy]

Uh well...If he keeps up his inflammatory rhetoric, (And especially, if people act on that rhetoric violently) It would behoove the powers that be to detain him... no? In light that he even said "I will never be detained" This fucker needs some real retribution when he shoots his mouth off and for consequences of an action...no?

Experts on political violence have always warned that attacks against people or institutions become more likely when elected officials or prominent media figures are able to issue threats or calls for violence with impunity. Trump's stochastic terror campaign has/will be conducted through others.(RWNJ's Kari Lake and the like)

If he keeps suggesting or threatening violence, that the government mayl be put in a position where they don’t have a choice but to try to move to detain him. In the real world, that’s what would happen if it was anybody but him. Normally, you can’t be threatening this type of stuff without being put in detention. Or at least a judge could put him under a gag order. Or at least threaten one.

You would need to prove that Trump's rhetoric was for the purpose of inciting imminent lawless action, otherwise it's protected by the first amendment. This is a very high bar to clear and would most likely fail.

 

[hal2kilo]

Uh well...If he keeps up his inflammatory rhetoric, (And especially, if people act on that rhetoric violently) It would behoove the powers that be to detain him... no? In light that he even said "I will never be detained" This fucker needs some real retribution when he shoots his mouth off and for consequences of an action...no?

Experts on political violence have always warned that attacks against people or institutions become more likely when elected officials or prominent media figures are able to issue threats or calls for violence with impunity. Trump's stochastic terror campaign has/will be conducted through others.(RWNJ's Kari Lake and the like)

If he keeps suggesting or threatening violence, that the government mayl be put in a position where they don’t have a choice but to try to move to detain him. In the real world, that’s what would happen if it was anybody but him. Normally, you can’t be threatening this type of stuff without being put in detention. Or at least a judge could put him under a gag order. Or at least threaten one.

Let's just say, I'm been very vocal about how this country is sick with guns, and I really have 0 desire to own one. On the other hand, I keep having to find myself open to the option of owning one. Tuesdays reaction in Miami will be a key to my decision, one way or the other.
This liberal is not rolling over, and playing dead.

 

[rommelrommel]

Yeah, for sure. I don't understand the so-called liberals around here that seem to think DeSantis is just play acting, or at worst--our glorious federal system will prevent him from stamping his pure fascist agenda on the rest of this country.

Most of the people here have lost your fucking minds and @MrSquished has been more correct than everyone else about this, tbh. One simple important point: I find it baffling that we all are in agreement that Mitch-Trump systematic dismantling of the federal judiciary has absolutely perverted the power structure in this country, to a point that we absolutely no longer have a balance between the legislature and the judiciary--we all fucking agree with this, without question--but many here turn right around and try to argue that this very same system is what is going to save us from psychopaths like Trump and DeSantis. Like, how do you understand the problem and the insidious reason behind stealing minority rightwing-theocratic control over a western democracy, but then argue that those very same broken systems are perfectly fine going forward? I think a lot of brains are broken here.

It's honestly not unlike most of the Germans c. 1927-35. Whether or not you even begrudgingly supported the Nazis, the liberals of that time still assumed "Well, we have protections in our system!" We all understand that the prideful fascists in this country, newly-empowered, are exactly that, but few here want to acknowledge their own laissez-faire participation in the end of our country. It's ridiculous.

And yet, here we are, slow-walking the death of liberty that the GOP is all too happy to shove down your timid throats. And they will absolutely do it with violence.

I’m not that worried about the ability of the RWE element to seize government.

They’re absurdly small in terms of people willing to actually do anything. Jan 6th was a window for some organised violence and we saw none. The people causing shit were disorganised and stupid, the handful of somewhat organised people cucked out and did nothing effective. There’s a large population of e-thugs talking about civil war and other political violence but they don’t do shit because their lives are too good, they’re cowards, and they aren’t actually threatened by something that can be spun into an existential threat very convincingly.

They kinda sorta want fascism but also aren’t willing to do the things it takes to get it. It’s more of an out of control culture war than anything approximating a real civil war.

It’s not to say that these people aren’t dangerous, but they’re generally disorganised and generally unwilling to suffer any hardship so the most you’ll see is pushing and shoving at protests and the odd lone wolf/limited goals type plot.

 

[UNCjigga]

No one finds it odd that a GOP Congress critter with 3 Percenter ties sends a cryptic tweet about “bridges” after the Trump indictment, and a section of I-95 suddenly collapses after a coincidentally placed tanker truck fire???

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Yeah, I already noted that.