News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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NWRMidnight

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I am not the one claiming Trump is facing charges. I simply refuted such comments.
Are you deliberately trying to be manipulative and lie, or are you just incompetent and/or confused on what people are saying? NOBODY has said he Has been charged, they have said HE WILL BE charged, or indited. Has been and will be do not mean the same thing. Yet, you specifically asked "what has Trump been charged with" implying he has been charged, which everyone knows he hasn't, which is why they are saying he will be. So, how exactly are you refuting people's claim, that Trump is facing charges (will be charged in the future) when your argument is about charges that have already taken place (past or current charges) that do not exist?

I took your whole response, as a glaring indication you have forgotten, or maybe you just don't realize that the wheels of justice moves slow, which is why he hasn't been charged yet (which is why people are saying he will be), so I was reminded you of that fact. Did I take what you said wrong? You are just a manipulative liar, here you are trying to argue about current pending charges that do not exist, and nobody is talking about? I guess I should have quoted your whole nonsense post, that fragrantly showed your disconnect from reality, where you also thru in Hitler references trying to argue about "what has Trump been charged with", as if Hitler or the past has anything to do with your position and your attempt to argue that Trump hasn't been charged with anything, as if the future has already taken place. You ended your post, falsely stated Trump is being probed. Trump is not being probed which I am sure he would enjoy, he is being fully investigated for crimes, which is not the same as being probed. So I corrected that misstatement... or was it not a mistake, and done on purpose for manipulation purposes?

Now, do you understand, do you need me to draw you a picture? Or are you going to try and refute what you said (quoted below), proving to all of us, that you are just being a manipulative lying bitch?


Exactly what has Trump been CHARGED with that is so straightforward?

Let's get a list.

Because before the Mar-a-Largo raid, certain people on this forum wanted Trump executed for Jan. 6th. And others likened him to a traitor. And to support their view, they mentioned everybody in history who pulled a coup and failed, was executed.

I noted that Hitler was not executed after his unsuccessful Putsch. My boy did go to prison though. And this set off a round of disjointed rationales that was supposed to invalidate the fact that Hitler lived until 1945 when he took his own life.

The belief that if Hitler had died in 1933, World War Two might not have occurred is balderdash. We don't know that.

Imperial Japan was intent on controlling the Pacific and nothing was going to stop that. Japan didn't need Hitler. Imperial Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931 and long had its eye on Indochina. And Mussolini wanted revenge for Ethiopia rebuffing Italy's invasion of Ethiopia in 1936. Abyssinia also kicked Italy's butt at the Battle of Adwa in 1896.

Try making those facts disappear.

So, once more with feeling: What charges have been laid against Donald Trump? Because the way I see it, absolutely nothing - despite widespread condemnation and speculation.

And before anyone starts whining or throwing chipped bricks, I am not a Trump fan. I'm a Dem.

Trump faces probes. Not criminal charges.
 
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ImpulsE69

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either way, I'm in the camp that thinks he'll weasle out of this just like everything else. Has he EVER been forced to pay back a debt? I feel like if he tried to file bankruptcy with Russia, they'd have him kneecapped.
 

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Are you deliberately trying to be manipulative and lie, or are you just incompetent and/or confused on what people are saying? NOBODY has said he Has been charged, they have said HE WILL BE charged, or indited. Has been and will be do not mean the same thing. Yet, you specifically asked "what has Trump been charged with" implying he has been charged, which everyone knows he hasn't, which is why they are saying he will be. So, how exactly are you refuting people's claim, that Trump is facing charges (will be charged in the future) when your argument is about charges that have already taken place (past or current charges) that do not exist?

I took your whole response, as a glaring indication you have forgotten, or maybe you just don't realize that the wheels of justice moves slow, which is why he hasn't been charged yet (which is why people are saying he will be), so I was reminded you of that fact. Did I take what you said wrong, and you are just a manipulative liar? Where you are trying to argue about current pending charges that do not exist, and nobody is talking about? I guess I should have quoted your whole nonsense post, that fragrantly showed your disconnect from reality, where you also thru in Hitler references trying to argue about "what has Trump been charged with", as if Hitler or the past has anything to do with your position and your attempt to argue that Trump hasn't been charged with anything, as if the future has already taken place. You ended your post, falsely stated Trump is being probed. Trump is not being probed which I am sure he would enjoy, he is being fully investigated for crimes, which is not the same as being probed. So I corrected that misstatement..

Now, do you understand, do you need me to draw you a picture? Or are you going to try and refute what you said (quoted below), proving to all of us, that you are just being a manipulative lying bitch?

This is why I asked him to quote specific people. It's a bad look and not reflective of the commenters here.

For fairness, both @fskimospy and @uclaLabrat used the word "charge" in their postings in conversation with @Lezunto , but I feel confident they were either using it to refer to charges being investigated or using it colloquially as in an accusation rather than referring to a criminal charge.
 

fskimospy

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This is why I asked him to quote specific people. It's a bad look and not reflective of the commenters here.

For fairness, both @fskimospy and @uclaLabrat used the word "charge" in their postings in conversation with @Lezunto , but I feel confident they were either using it to refer to charges being investigated or using it colloquially as in an accusation rather than referring to a criminal charge.
I think I’ve been clear that I believe Trump WILL be indicted, not that he is currently under indictment. Maybe my terminology wasn’t right but I don’t think the intent was in doubt.
 

brandonbull

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I think I’ve been clear that I believe Trump WILL be indicted, not that he is currently under indictment. Maybe my terminology wasn’t right but I don’t think the intent was in doubt.
I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.
 

fskimospy

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I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.
I’m sure you do. You probably think this because you watch a lot of right wing media and they lie to you relentlessly.

Question though. If Trump is not indicted I’m perfectly happy to come and admit I was wrong. If Trump is indicted are you willing to admit the same or will you claim it’s some conspiracy?
 

cytg111

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I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.

You bet nothing... Am I right? Already donated all you got to the cause didnt you? Of course you did.
 
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I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.

While I agree, I agree for different reasons.
I am confused about your post are you saying the former President had documents proving he colluded with Russia and the FBI took those documents or are you saying the FBI already has documents proving the former President colluded with Russia or are you saying something different. I am confused.
 

Meghan54

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While I agree, I agree for different reasons.
I am confused about your post are you saying the former President had documents proving he colluded with Russia and the FBI took those documents or are you saying the FBI already has documents proving the former President colluded with Russia or are you saying something different. I am confused.
Not as confused as he is…although his is willful.
 

rommelrommel

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I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.

If Trump had all this evidence, and it was obvious the government wanted it back, why did he do nothing at all with it?
 

NWRMidnight

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I bet Trump won't be indicted. The warrant for the FBI raid is starting to fall apart. It was a sham to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus.
How exactly does a warrant approved by a judge, and a raid that has already taken place fall apart? Be specific in your answer.
 
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He takes in a lot of right wing media who relentlessly lie to him. When their predictions don't come true he forgets them.
I’m still confused about this quote:

to get documents to help cover up Trump- Russia collusion and also leak them to the Jan 6 circus

Is Brandon saying the former President did collude with Russia? Sounds that way to me, am I reading it wrong?
 
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NWRMidnight

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I’m still confused about this quote:



Is Brandon saying the former President did collude with Russia? Sounds that way to me, am I reading it wrong?


This is what happens when one finally mind fuck themselves from all the lies they hear, and make up themselves. To the point one ends up admitting the truth, without even realizing it, because they can't keep up with the dishonesty and are unable to separate truth from their own made up bullshit!

edit: quoted the wrong person, and wording change.
 
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