You don't say stupid shit, like for example saying that polls don't involve facts? LOL!You make that statement and then say that I say stupid shit. You're an idiot.
They have to be willing to watch and listen to him first, which they won't because their own ignorance stands in their way.This was great. He always has a way of breaking it down into simple concepts even a Trump supporter "should" understand.
Things have changed somewhat, while technically illegal I could have easily printed out any number of secret/TS documents and just walked out the door with them when I was in a decade ago. They might have had auditing on the TS shit (unlikely given how leaky things were) but definitely not the secret, and DEFINITELY not the TS/secret sitting on unclass systems where it shouldn't have been.In my experience when a person gets classified documents ( Secret, Top Secret etc... ) they are signed out from storage by the custodian as to whom was receiving them and the chain of custody is maintained that way. When they are returned they are signed back in.
They should know without a doubt who signed out those documents. They should also know exactly what was missing and who had custody. They would have known this from day # 1 when he left office that the documents were not returned. Classified at Secret \\ SCI and Top Secret \\ SCI level, I would think they would have executed a warrant long before 18 months had passed.
Like if you went at the FBI for going too hard then I don’t feel you can go at them for being too soft.
Cut him a lil slack...it's tough keeping the FUD topics straight and remembering his last stances.Like if you went at the FBI for going too hard then I don’t feel you can go at them for being too soft.
Things have changed somewhat, while technically illegal I could have easily printed out any number of secret/TS documents and just walked out the door with them when I was in a decade ago. They might have had auditing on the TS shit (unlikely given how leaky things were) but definitely not the secret, and DEFINITELY not the TS/secret sitting on unclass systems where it shouldn't have been.
I find it absolutely hilarious, but not surprising, that @pcgeek11 went from "they went too hard on Trump, why?" to "they are too soft on Trump, why?"
Knowing the high level of classification of the documents and the resistance to turning them over do you think the FBI was warranted?I see you lack understanding.
At first I said that I didn't think they needed the drama entry and 30 agents to gather a few documents. I still think that.
What I am talking about after seeing the actual numbers and the classification levels is why they waited so long as Secret and Top Secret documents esp \\SCI level should be accounted for with respect to who checked them out and if they were returned or not. If this is not the case then our security system at the White House is severely lacking and pathetic.
IMO they should have known what was missing exactly and who checked it out. It also seems unusual to wait 18 months to retrieve data that is this sensitive. They could have still gone in with a few agents and retrieved these without all the drama.
Knowing the high level of classification of the documents and the resistance to turning them over do you think the FBI was warranted?
I think that logic can be formal and mathematical in precision but that in matters where partisan affiliation can introduce invisible rationalizations, it behooves a truth seeker, and not the apologist, to rely also on pattern recognition. Just because something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck has a bill and flippers, does prove it's a duck. It could be a merganser depending on the bill.I'm not going at anyone...
Trying to see the logic.
Right, here we go again.I see you lack understanding.
At first I said that I didn't think they needed the drama entry and 30 agents to gather a few documents. I still think that.
What I am talking about after seeing the actual numbers and the classification levels is why they waited so long as Secret and Top Secret documents esp \\SCI level should be accounted for with respect to who checked them out and if they were returned or not. If this is not the case then our security system at the White House is severely lacking and pathetic.
IMO they should have known what was missing exactly and who checked it out. It also seems unusual to wait 18 months to retrieve data that is this sensitive. They could have still gone in with a few agents and retrieved these without all the drama.
You are making the dangerous assumption the Trump Whitehouse adhered to norms when it comes to handling classified material.I see you lack understanding.
At first I said that I didn't think they needed the drama entry and 30 agents to gather a few documents. I still think that.
What I am talking about after seeing the actual numbers and the classification levels is why they waited so long as Secret and Top Secret documents esp \\SCI level should be accounted for with respect to who checked them out and if they were returned or not. If this is not the case then our security system at the White House is severely lacking and pathetic.
IMO they should have known what was missing exactly and who checked it out. It also seems unusual to wait 18 months to retrieve data that is this sensitive. They could have still gone in with a few agents and retrieved these without all the drama.
Back in your experience, they probably didn't have printers. Or copy machines.In my experience when a person gets classified documents ( Secret, Top Secret etc... ) they are signed out from storage by the custodian as to whom was receiving them and the chain of custody is maintained that way. When they are returned they are signed back in.
They should know without a doubt who signed out those documents. They should also know exactly what was missing and who had custody. They would have known this from day # 1 when he left office that the documents were not returned. Classified at Secret \\ SCI and Top Secret \\ SCI level, I would think they would have executed a warrant long before 18 months had passed.
Were I under federal investigation I would simply not admit to my crimes on the internet.
Lolol talk about fucking amateursNews going through the orange monkey team response. Holy crap these lawyers going to get sued for negligence Like sure, they have a horrible client but Baron would do a better job defending his father.
edit - lolllllll. They are demanding a copy of all the documents seized.
I get that. Where I have a problem is that when I see something as IMO that only means it's an opinion and I have a very hard time squaring where MO contradicts large numbers of real world professionals like the DOJ, the FBI, the Judicial system, reams of lawyerly opinion tell me I'm full of shit. I try to use that duck thingi. Who is more likely to spot the merganser, me or an ornithologist? I don't think your opinion puts its ducks in a row. But that doesn't mean I need to jump off a building somewhere. I try to look for the humor in things, like the woman who jump out of a hotel window having just caught her husband having a room there with another woman, and landing on him after she jumped, killing him as he was leaving the building.I see you lack understanding.
At first I said that I didn't think they needed the drama entry and 30 agents to gather a few documents. I still think that.
What I am talking about after seeing the actual numbers and the classification levels is why they waited so long as Secret and Top Secret documents esp \\SCI level should be accounted for with respect to who checked them out and if they were returned or not. If this is not the case then our security system at the White House is severely lacking and pathetic.
IMO they should have known what was missing exactly and who checked it out. It also seems unusual to wait 18 months to retrieve data that is this sensitive. They could have still gone in with a few agents and retrieved these without all the drama.
New Trumpian defense: Espionage is such a “mundane” crime.
No, seriously, that’s his defense lawyer talking.
In my experience when a person gets classified documents ( Secret, Top Secret etc... ) they are signed out from storage by the custodian as to whom was receiving them and the chain of custody is maintained that way. When they are returned they are signed back in.
They should know without a doubt who signed out those documents. They should also know exactly what was missing and who had custody. They would have known this from day # 1 when he left office that the documents were not returned. Classified at Secret \\ SCI and Top Secret \\ SCI level, I would think they would have executed a warrant long before 18 months had passed.
The DOJ's internal filter team has already finished its work of segregating those materials from what is shared with investigators, the department said Tuesday, and the rest of the documents have already been reviewed by the agents working on the case.