iRONic
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HOW WILL IT HAPPEN?
The arrest of Donald Trump?
How will the FBI arrest Donald Trump?
Will they arrest Donald at his estate at Mar A Lago? Or, outside of Trump Tower? Maybe at some airport when Donald is on the move to a rally or headed for an appearance at Fox News? Will the FBI arrest Donald Trump outside the Fox News HQ itself, right on the street?
It will be interesting to see just how and when the FBI takes action.
Then, we will finally have Donald Trump in handcuffs, the same handcuffs he threatened Hillary with, oh the irony....
I can just picture it. Donald will spending the night in a federal lockup, waiting to face a judge the next morning. His attorneys will ask the judge for bail, then the judge will consider whether or not Donald is a flight risk and worthy of any bail. After all, Trump still has his passport. The FBI gave that back to Donald, remember?
And as Donald Trump appears before a judge, in handcuffs or maybe not, the Trumpies across America will go insanely wild. Fox news will have a total meltdown, broadcasting non stop with no commercial interruptions. Lindsey Graham will yell and scream at the top of his lungs on the senate floor. And I suspect Mitch McConnell will say nothing. Nothing at all. Not even a peep. Old Mitch will sleep better that night than he has for many years.
Yea, I just wonder just how the arrest of Donald Trump will go down? Will be interesting. I'm looking forward. We all are I suspect.
We should get a pool going.... I can see fighter jets forcing Trump Force One to do an emergency landing as he tries to flee the country.
Or he could request asylum at an embassy.
HOW WILL IT HAPPEN?
The arrest of Donald Trump?
How will the FBI arrest Donald Trump?
Will they arrest Donald at his estate at Mar A Lago? Or, outside of Trump Tower? Maybe at some airport when Donald is on the move to a rally or headed for an appearance at Fox News? Will the FBI arrest Donald Trump outside the Fox News HQ itself, right on the street?
It will be interesting to see just how and when the FBI takes action.
Then, we will finally have Donald Trump in handcuffs, the same handcuffs he threatened Hillary with, oh the irony....
I can just picture it. Donald will spending the night in a federal lockup, waiting to face a judge the next morning. His attorneys will ask the judge for bail, then the judge will consider whether or not Donald is a flight risk and worthy of any bail. After all, Trump still has his passport. The FBI gave that back to Donald, remember?
And as Donald Trump appears before a judge, in handcuffs or maybe not, the Trumpies across America will go insanely wild. Fox news will have a total meltdown, broadcasting non stop with no commercial interruptions. Lindsey Graham will yell and scream at the top of his lungs on the senate floor. And I suspect Mitch McConnell will say nothing. Nothing at all. Not even a peep. Old Mitch will sleep better that night than he has for many years.
Yea, I just wonder just how the arrest of Donald Trump will go down? Will be interesting. I'm looking forward. We all are I suspect.
You are making the dangerous assumption the Trump Whitehouse adhered to norms when it comes to handling classified material.
Back in your experience, they probably didn't have printers. Or copy machines.
There is no "checking out" of shit now a days bro get with the times. Documents are stored on these things called "computers" now a days.
I gotta ask, are you surprised Trump did this?
But isn't it Fact that your experience is from lets say 30 years ago, because from your posts I know you are older than me.
Have you not seen how "the swamp got drained"? By plugging the outlet.
I'm a Dem, but I'm not an extremist which is I try my best not to hurl personal attacks, denigrate others or routinely insult folks.
Other folks who are so full of rage can avail themselves of that. And there seems to be sooo much anger on this forum. But it's not me you're ticked off at.
It is your collective inability to control events, to toss away people you roundly dislike or force those in power to do what you want. But that was never going to happen anyway. Many of you are all over the place with your accusations.
I guess that's why there's so much nastiness and your boneheaded approaches to nearly everything that pushes people away who may try to listen. The bottom line is Trump was elected in 2016 with the connivance of many and that includes those on the Left who hated Hillary so much that they refused to vote her. Or worse -. actually voted for Trump.
NPR said 10% of Bernie Sanders voted for Trump out of revenge. Vox tabbed it at 12%.
Many of you confound me at times. I'm used to dealing with malcontents. But here, it is sort of a mob mentality. Agree with us or die! Really? No. I don't agree.
Here is what I believe many are not aware of:
Trump has not been charged by a prosecutor, which is why I contend he is facing no charges at the moment.
Depends on the setting and org. AFAIK most SCIFs don't have armed guards, so if someone walks out with docs, will anyone notice? Yeah it might be on camera, but what's the retention timeframe on the recordings? If it falls off the radar long enough, does anyone notice?So they actually have no controls over who see's classified materials? IAW what you seem to be implying. ( Anyone can print or copy classified documents and walk out with them. )
Depends on the setting and org. AFAIK most SCIFs don't have armed guards, so if someone walks out with docs, will anyone notice? Yeah it might be on camera, but what's the retention timeframe on the recordings? If it falls off the radar long enough, does anyone notice?
There's technical things that can be done to prevent this from happening to some extent, but are they implemented properly? Is anyone auditing it to ensure it stays the way it's supposed to? Are they checking everything or just the documented systems? Govt IT is an unwieldy monster in the best of times. In the worst it's an interdimensional void demon.
Of course they have controls over who sees classified materials. You need a clearance at a specific level in order to see them, then you need to have the need to know in order to see them as well as the accesses needed.LOL. Yes they did have printers and copy machines...
So they actually have no controls over who see's classified materials? IAW what you seem to be implying. ( Anyone can print or copy classified documents and walk out with them. )
Uhh, fair enough, I guess? I considered that...before searching for any info I could find about the subject, BEFORE posting what I did.Then you probably shouldn't talk about it as if you do know anything about it, cause it makes everything else you said completely moot.
Yep, good point on the additional eyes. Doesn't help if the site has low manning or if you're the kind of person that's expected to be walking around all the time with stacks of paperwork/binders/whatever though.Right, it's usually on the honor system or some threat of firing/prosecution. There are controls in place on the system you're using to access the data though. Monitoring differs accordingly ... You're very likely to be reported by a co-worker if they see something shady as it's also on them if the see and don't report. That's all if you've been given access to what is usually a very tightly locked down (per GSA reqs) area in the first place.
Depends on the setting and org. AFAIK most SCIFs don't have armed guards, so if someone walks out with docs, will anyone notice? Yeah it might be on camera, but what's the retention timeframe on the recordings? If it falls off the radar long enough, does anyone notice?
There's technical things that can be done to prevent this from happening to some extent, but are they implemented properly? Is anyone auditing it to ensure it stays the way it's supposed to? Are they checking everything or just the documented systems? Govt IT is an unwieldy monster in the best of times. In the worst it's an interdimensional void demon.
I know.God it must be an unholy nightmare. I am glad I never had to deal with this type of system. Surprising that we have any secrets that are not compromised.
Definitely the "B" team.Circular word salad defense.
She's not his lawyer. She's his PR person. And she's very good at pivoting mid-sentence so you don't have time to actually consider the reality behind any of her statements.
That would all mean jack shit in a court of law. To any extent she could capitalize on this talent and her other "talents" in opening/closing statements to a jury, she can't prevent the prosecution from methodically laying a foundation for why serious crimes were committed and presenting evidence thereof.
Of course they have controls over who sees classified materials. You need a clearance at a specific level in order to see them, then you need to have the need to know in order to see them as well as the accesses needed.
Once you do that and have access to whatever it is you have access to, yes, you can print out whatever the hell you want and take it anywhere your heart so desires. And if you get caught taking it to an unsecure space in the improper manner without a justifiable reason, you can and will get in trouble.
Please stop talking about stuff you have no knowledge of. You are spreading fake news like your entire cult likes to do.
Yep. Usually during a spillage of classified info (typically by officers and hirer ups) someone notices and reports it. A very quick assessment is made of what workstations/servers need to be slicked. It's no fun for all that are affected. It's happened at least twice and started from high up in the chain (SP headquarters) during my working history.Right, it's usually on the honor system or some threat of firing/prosecution. There are controls in place on the system you're using to access the data though. Monitoring differs accordingly ... You're very likely to be reported by a co-worker if they see something shady as it's also on them if the see and don't report. That's all if you've been given access to what is usually a very tightly locked down (per GSA reqs) area in the first place.
So given your newly-found realization that the govt security system isn't always a well-oiled machine, would it surprise you to find out that one of Trump's spawn had some relevant docs printed out for dear-old-dad, who then just put that shit in a briefcase (even accidentally) and just carted it home and stuffed it in a drawer somewhere? Nobody's patting down the president as he leaves.God it must be an unholy nightmare. I am glad I never had to deal with this type of system. Surprising that we have any secrets that are not compromised.
So given your newly-found realization that the govt security system isn't always a well-oiled machine, would it surprise you to find out that one of Trump's spawn had some relevant docs printed out for dear-old-dad, who then just put that shit in a briefcase (even accidentally) and just carted it home and stuffed it in a drawer somewhere? Nobody's patting down the president as he leaves.
Yep. Usually during a spillage of classified info (typically by officers and hirer ups) someone notices and reports it. A very quick assessment is made of what workstations/servers need to be slicked. It's no fun for all that are affected. It's happened at least twice and started from high up in the chain (SP headquarters) during my working history.