Yup, you guys keep living in a fantasy land.
I'm not denying that he should be in jail - but you guys keep having these cute dreams of... impeachment... and criminal charges... and investigations... It's getting pretty cute.
I think you guys might be surprised. I wouldn’t go so far as to say criminal charges are certain or even more likely than not but I think you guys are seriously underestimating Trump’s potential exposure here.
New York State’s governor and AG both have significant political incentives to indict Trump, his businesses, and his family. If we were just talking federal charges I would agree with you. States ones? Not so sure.
I suggest you come to NY and talk to the prosecuters and tell them they can't prosecute a criminal. The reality is that no President has been a criminal anywhere near this in modern history. Now you explain to us how a woman who could eat Trump for dinner can't fufill her legal duty? You are looking her in the eyes and saying Trump can't go to jail.
When you get your ass back it won't be in a MAGA hat.
The investment of magical powers probably isn't accurate. You don't live here in NY, do you.
Well i don't think that he'll get prison time but i think that his legacy in the history books will be disgraced, he wont hold public office again and his personal business reputation will be beyond salvation. Which is as much as we can hope for sometimes!Not saying she can’t, I’m saying she won’t. And you know she won’t. You can talk sensational about looking her in the eyes and how she’ll eat his lunch and of course that she’s from NY but the reality is that she’s not going to do anything, Mueller isn’t going to do anything, and nothing will be done.
Not saying she can’t, I’m saying she won’t. And you know she won’t. You can talk sensational about looking her in the eyes and how she’ll eat his lunch and of course that she’s from NY but the reality is that she’s not going to do anything, Mueller isn’t going to do anything, and nothing will be done.
I think that if he decided to retire quietly "for the sake of his health" all the investigations would go quiet. The odds of him going quietly are pretty slim though. That guy couldn't keep his mouth shut to save his skin.Trump could save himself & the rest of us a lot of ugliness if he'd just resign on the condition of pardons from Pence & Cuomo. Which would not include release from financial penalties, of course.
Given the obligation of SS protection, it's impractical to imprison former presidents other than using methods like the one I describe. Which would be fine by me- If we could pay him to resign I'd be all for that, as well. Anything that removes him from the Presidency, the sooner, the better. Offer him the $5B Wall money & a one way ticket to Moscow.
Not saying she can’t, I’m saying she won’t. And you know she won’t. You can talk sensational about looking her in the eyes and how she’ll eat his lunch and of course that she’s from NY but the reality is that she’s not going to do anything, Mueller isn’t going to do anything, and nothing will be done.
Well i don't think that he'll get prison time but i think that his legacy in the history books will be disgraced, he wont hold public office again and his personal business reputation will be beyond salvation. Which is as much as we can hope for sometimes!
That has no bearing on the case. The SS can figure out how to work with NY. If you can demonstrate that the Secret Service has the authority to derail state law and justice, sure but no. As far as protection goes it's absurdly easy to resolve. We put Trump in isolation with Secret Service guards outside our equivalent of supermax. No one gets near him orther than the SS. It's a non issue.
He's fucking old... you act like any of that will ruin him or his family. He already has his money. He already has his assets, etc... Even if what you said were true (and his "reputation" were tarnished - as if it already wasn't yet he continues just fine) - it won't make a difference at this point in his life.
Trump's crimes do not justify supermax style solitary confinement. That's reserved for people who pose a threat of escape and/or a threat to other inmates & the staff.
I think that you are missing the point there. I dont give a fuck about what Trump thinks about Trump. I just want him out of power so he cant break anything else and i want history to remember what a fuck up he was and not to let that happen again.He's fucking old... you act like any of that will ruin him or his family. He already has his money. He already has his assets, etc... Even if what you said were true (and his "reputation" were tarnished - as if it already wasn't yet he continues just fine) - it won't make a difference at this point in his life.
Depending on how this shakes out, the Feds & NYS may decide to RICO the fuck out of Trump.
I know no such thing. Mueller may be blocked by the feds. So who exactly is going to tell the state that Trump is above the law? Not the SCOTUS. You say "you know she won't". I know no such thing and your response is to beg the question.
Maybe Trump owns your state politicians, but not here. You really don't understand power works. Trump will have none. DC will have none. If Trump is found to have committed crimes and nothing happens it's because Cuomo was offered power, significant power, at the national level. I don't see him going Republican.
Well, yeh, kinda. The problem for Trump is that there are plenty of discrete crimes to spread them around between state & federal authorities. If state authorities convict a person of a crime for which the Feds don't prosecute no President can pardon them.https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/no-...preme-court-case-that-could-affect-probe.html
If this flys, cheeto could just have the justice department charge him with whatever NY (or anyone else) wants to charge him for, resign, get Pence to pardon him and then the state would not be able to charge again under double jeopardy (at least that's the way I read it).
My biggest worry is that When Trump gets arrested, Pence would become president (assuming he is not involved in all of the Trump crimes)
Below is an accurate photograph of Mike Pence.
Presidents don’t go to jail. That’s a reality America has to deal with.
Focus not even needed, but hers? Oops.Sweet old lady from lawyer hell.
Once Trump is out of office she'll bring out her mostly complete textbook case against him and others. Mueller level without Trump or Republican obstructionists
="Hayabusa Rider, post: 39691456, member: 10614"]I suggest you come to NY and talk to the prosecuters and tell them they can't prosecute a criminal. The reality is that no President has been a criminal anywhere near this in modern history. Now you explain to us how a woman who could eat Trump for dinner can't fufill her legal duty? You are looking her in the eyes and saying Trump can't go to jail.
When you get your ass back it won't be in a MAGA hat.
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