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fskimospy

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your other source was already properly pilloried.

Again, why do you hold up the guy that got OJ acquitted, is largely shunned by his peers for being a drunken lunatic, raped teenage girls, and was very very good buddies with Epstein?
I notice you didn't really even mention it in your repsonse, just deflected to the other lunatic that you mentioned as "a source."

so does this mean that I convinced that Dershowitz isn't really a character that you want to champion as "clear minded" about important things?
So what do you think about those basic factual errors?
 

fskimospy

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I don't know what you are attempting to say or imply here.



Of course they did. I posted them as legal opinions from actual lawyers. Not prominent internet lawyers such as yourself and zinfamous.



It doesn't matter whoever I cite will be eviscerated by you and your minions even if you have to make shit up. Maybe the appeals court will ask you for your precious legal opinion on this before they decide.

Looks like you are wrong as usual.


In a statement, Giuffre acknowledged that she may have made a mistake in identifying Dershowitz as one of her abusers.

"I have long believed that I was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein to Alan Dershowitz," she said.

"However, I was very young at the time, it was a very stressful and traumatic environment, and Mr. Dershowitz has from the beginning consistently denied these allegations. I now recognize I may have made a mistake in identifying Mr. Dershowitz. This litigation has been very stressful and burdensome for me and my family, and we believe it is time to bring it to an end and move on with our lives."

Dershowitz also released a statement.

"As I have said from the beginning, I never had sex with Ms. Giuffre," it said. "I have nevertheless come to believe that at the time she accused me she believed what she said. Ms. Giuffre is to be commended for her courage in now stating publicly that she may have been mistaken about me."

What are you citing for calling him a drunk and a lunatic?

As for him defending OJ: As I read it he was a defense team member and a Defense Lawyer by trade. That was his Job. The defense didn't get OJ off the hook, the jury was going to let him go regardless due to the racial tension from the Rodney King beating.

You don’t have to take my word for it, you can see it yourself. One of your sources claimed Bragg didn’t say what the underlying crimes were until the trial but easily identifiable filings shows that’s not true.There is no argument here - your sources just said obviously wrong things. I already provided you proof of their falsity.

Now that you know your sources said obviously wrong things do you want to reconsider anything?

Remember, the only question here is if you want to continue to rely on sources who said things that are obviously, provably wrong.
 
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outriding

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You don’t have to take my word for it, you can see it yourself. One of your sources claimed Bragg didn’t say what the underlying crimes were until the trial but easily identifiable filings shows that’s not true.There is no argument here - your sources just said obviously wrong things. I already provided you proof of their falsity.

Now that you know your sources said obviously wrong things do you want to reconsider anything?

Remember, the only question here is if you want to continue to rely on sources who said things that are obviously, provably wrong.
it doesn't fit his narrative
 
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ch33zw1z

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You don’t have to take my word for it, you can see it yourself. One of your sources claimed Bragg didn’t say what the underlying crimes were until the trial but easily identifiable filings shows that’s not true.There is no argument here - your sources just said obviously wrong things. I already provided you proof of their falsity.

Now that you know your sources said obviously wrong things do you want to reconsider anything?

Remember, the only question here is if you want to continue to rely on sources who said things that are obviously, provably wrong.

I mean, you’re replying to someone who voted for trump twice and thinks “many people are saying” as a valid reason to go after people, people groups, establishments, etc…

Again your efforts are applauded, but unlikely to change anything
 

zinfamous

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K1052

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ch33zw1z

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And this:

Motor oil is a known carcinogen. While I’m sure that there’s potentially components of windmills that can cause cancer, spinning in the air and any one of them, lol.

I’d love to say I can’t believe you posted this as some sort of defense, but it’s not shocking, at all.
 

Stokely

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Massive uncontrolled industrial pollution in that era was kind of an actual thing.

You say that like its a bad thing. Think of the corporate profits! My coworker is in favor of getting rid of all environmental protections because it "hurts business" and that the market will sort it all out, somehow punishing those that pollute (???? yeah, don't ask any "how, exactly" questions about that....).

Getting rid of pesky environmental laws is part of Maga. America was great when, and because, we could dump mercury and anything we wanted into waterways and landfills, saving us all (well, corporations) shit tons of money.
 
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Meghan54

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Ohman… you would be in a constant state of amazement if you were to visit the Commonwealth.

Late model Ford pick up trucks with every option, late model Dodge Rams with every option, Chevy 2500s HD with every option. The lions share of them have fully tinted windows and aftermarket wheels and rims with lift kits. Anecdotally I don't see many Tundras or Tacomas.

I can understand why we have a lot of Ford pick ups driving around because of the two Ford manufacturing facilities here. Employee purchasing deals gotta be sweet AF!
Get out on the Cape…loads of Toyota trucks and SUV’s out there, especially the further down Cape you travel.

Well, my perspective is from 2010-2013, so most may have rusted away by now. Never saw so many rusted out bodies/rear bumpers on vehicles like I saw on Toyota trucks.
 

pcgeek11

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Motor oil is a known carcinogen. While I’m sure that there’s potentially components of windmills that can cause cancer, spinning in the air and any one of them, lol.

I’d love to say I can’t believe you posted this as some sort of defense, but it’s not shocking, at all.


It wasn't a defense it was a comparison of two silly statements. But go ahead and make a huge deal out of it if it makes you feel better.

I would be more inclined to think President Biden's skin cancer was caused by excessive sun exposure. Esp with all the time he spends at the beach.
 

Meghan54

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You say that like its a bad thing. Think of the corporate profits! My coworker is in favor of getting rid of all environmental protections because it "hurts business" and that the market will sort it all out, somehow punishing those that pollute (???? yeah, don't ask any "how, exactly" questions about that....). I know people that don't give a shit even if the pollution is there, because who gives a shit about the spotted titmouse. I could spell the word "ecology" for these people but that wouldn't matter, because humans aren't animals or part of a complicated web that every other living thing relies on for survival. Nope, we are mini-gods and big-G God has it all sorted for us.

Getting rid of pesky environmental laws is part of Maga. America was great when, and because, we could dump mercury and anything we wanted into waterways and landfills, saving us all (well, corporations) shit tons of money.

And if by some weird coincidence a bunch of people start developing cancer, they are probably poor people anyway since they chose to live near a factory, or downstream from one. Might even be minorities, extra don't-give-a-shit points there.

Only part of course, there's also the golden time when darkies couldn't vote, how awesome was that. And before we had so many mixed...."what are they" people that gum up the works.
Remember, Trump and the cons scream about EPA overreach and constantly claim the air ‘s clean enough and water is, too. Just don’t remind them the reason the air and water appear clean enough is specifically due to the EPA…(Nixon’s creation…🙂)
 

fskimospy

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These factual errors?

1.) got OJ acquitted.
2.) is largely shunned by his peers for being a drunken lunatic.
3.) raped teenage girls.
No, the factual errors I listed in my post that were contained in the articles you used to support your position.
 

ch33zw1z

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It wasn't a defense it was a comparison of two silly statements. But go ahead and make a huge deal out of it if it makes you feel better.
"a huge deal" - aka calling out your idiocy when making an ineffectual comparison
I would be more inclined to think President Biden's skin cancer was caused by excessive sun exposure. Esp with all the time he spends at the beach.
Sure, I would be inclined to say that as well. What I'm not inclined to agree with is Trump claiming windmills cause cancer and Biden claiming pollution causes cancer are the same type of stupid statement. That's your both sides confirmation bias kicking in to protect your ego.
 

K1052

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It wasn't a defense it was a comparison of two silly statements. But go ahead and make a huge deal out of it if it makes you feel better.

I would be more inclined to think President Biden's skin cancer was caused by excessive sun exposure. Esp with all the time he spends at the beach.

Biden's melanoma probably due to sun exposure. However the industrial pollution he describes and blames for lots of other people's cancer too is absolutely factual.

Trump says wind farms cause cancer which is indisputably untrue.
 

Meghan54

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No, the factual errors I listed in my post that were contained in the articles you used to support your position.
ROFL. You expect him to read facts that conflict with his innate overwhelming knowledge based on feels?

HAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA
 

Zorba

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I don't know what you are attempting to say or imply here.



Of course they did. I posted them as legal opinions from actual lawyers. Not prominent internet lawyers such as yourself and zinfamous.



It doesn't matter whoever I cite will be eviscerated by you and your minions even if you have to make shit up. Maybe the appeals court will ask you for your precious legal opinion on this before they decide.

Looks like you are wrong as usual.


In a statement, Giuffre acknowledged that she may have made a mistake in identifying Dershowitz as one of her abusers.

"I have long believed that I was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein to Alan Dershowitz," she said.

"However, I was very young at the time, it was a very stressful and traumatic environment, and Mr. Dershowitz has from the beginning consistently denied these allegations. I now recognize I may have made a mistake in identifying Mr. Dershowitz. This litigation has been very stressful and burdensome for me and my family, and we believe it is time to bring it to an end and move on with our lives."

Dershowitz also released a statement.

"As I have said from the beginning, I never had sex with Ms. Giuffre," it said. "I have nevertheless come to believe that at the time she accused me she believed what she said. Ms. Giuffre is to be commended for her courage in now stating publicly that she may have been mistaken about me."

What are you citing for calling him a drunk and a lunatic?

As for him defending OJ: As I read it he was a defense team member and a Defense Lawyer by trade. That was his Job. The defense didn't get OJ off the hook, the jury was going to let him go regardless due to the racial tension from the Rodney King beating.

That statement really reads like she was paid off...
 
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