Trump NY Criminal Trial

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QueBert

Lifer
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Just a few thoughts…

Anyone notice his fav daughter never showed up for one court date?

How can Trump do no jail time when Cohen went to jail for crimes done on orders by Trump?

Decision on prison is dependent on remorse by convicted and taking into account of violations of gag orders. Not looking good for orange menace

I'm sure his daughters and wife are embarrassed as shit by all of this. And that's really saying something, because with all he's done you'd think they would be immune. Even the MAGAs who don't believe he committed any crimes here. At best he's a proclaimed proud Christan man, who cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star. Then paid her off to try and keep her quiet. That's not very Christian like lol. They can deny the criminal shit, but at best all they can do is try and ignore the sex with a porn star thing.

Or is Trump still sticking to his story that they never had sex? Which would make a hush money payment kind of, odd? Now I think about it, I bet plenty of his followers don't believe he had sex with her and think Stormy's a plant by Evil Brandon to foil Trump's reelection. Because apparently, the only way Biden can win is to pin a porn star on Trump.

I love the idea of Evil Brandon, it makes me laugh that the MAGAs believe he's capable of doing all this. If he can mastermind the downfall of Trump all while running the country. He's 100% fit to be president another 4 years.

It's fitting with the condition this country's in that a porn star could be our saving grace here. That could be God sending a message to Trump to stop pretending to be this good Christian. Angels can come in all forms, even an ex porn star.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Just a few thoughts…

Anyone notice his fav daughter never showed up for one court date?

How can Trump do no jail time when Cohen went to jail for crimes done on orders by Trump?

Decision on prison is dependent on remorse by convicted and taking into account of violations of gag orders. Not looking good for orange menace
They said on TV news tonight that Ivanka and Melania didn't show up for any of his trial dates.

Cohen was jailed for 3 years (a lot of that not in custody) because he lied on the stand. Trump didn't testify a peep.

Experts are saying jail time not likely because first offense. I hope that's wrong, the extenuating circumstances look bad for Trump, but IMO it will never be clear what's behind the sentencing that will be announced July 11. I hope it smarts.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Eric Trump is heard saying, "I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows that this is nonsense."

Wow. Just wow. What a racist jackass.
The only people surprised by this are the likes of…

@pcgeek11
@Greenman
@FelixDeCat

Am I forgetting anyone who constantly downplays or excuses Trump racism?
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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We laugh, or cry. Maybe both. They are freaking nuts. But so is all of MAGA, and they all want second amendment solutions.

Sort'a along the lines of "Welp, if we can't fight against the truth and facts that criminalizes Trump with the blatant outright lies and hoax conspiracies that we've all been relying on for so long, there's only one other thing we can go with, right?...That stolen election shtick that we all pretended to believe in had a nice run an' all and that amazing rambunctious tour we took at the Capitol in '21 where we showed the world how to Make America Great Again sure was a hoot, but it looks like we're down to the one last thing that can make any sense of it all..."

Sad if true, although I've seen and heard enough from Trump's rabble rousers over the years for the aforementioned to have gained some traction.
 

amenx

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Dec 17, 2004
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"rigged, disgraceful trial"... sadly majority of MAGAts will believe that and therein lies the problem.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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"rigged, disgraceful trial"... sadly majority of MAGAts will believe that and therein lies the problem.

MAGA fanatics aren't the problem. The huge pool of potential voters are; you've got like a third of your electorate not bothering to turn up. The more utterly unhinged MAGA/Trump becomes, the more likely the potential voters will vote (with a few ought to be obvious provisos).

The only way that MAGA is neutralised is by the rest of society kicking it to the curb at election time (or a war), akin to a unanimous message from extended family to the racist uncle to shut the fuck up for the rest of time.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Eric Trump is heard saying, "I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows that this is nonsense."

Wow. Just wow. What a racist jackass.

I was sure this was going to be a "Internet ignores sarcams again" moment.

Watched clip.

Nope.

edit: Trump cant even be mad, that is 100% his own genes showing. What a stupid wise and beautiful woman.

(or it could be a call to arms? The least stupid interpretation I can come up with)
 
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Mahboi

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"The US elections are now reminiscent of the struggle of Oligarchs and Democrats in Ancient Greece, where each in turn they would exile each other, the vanquisher judging the vanquished each time."

A brilliant friend of mine coined this (not in English). I'm just translating it here for posterity.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Experts are saying jail time not likely because first offense. I hope that's wrong, the extenuating circumstances look bad for Trump, but IMO it will never be clear what's behind the sentencing that will be announced July 11. I hope it smarts.
I've heard this several times, and I'll repeat what I and at least one other in this thread have vocalized; if any of us got convicted of 34 felonies on our first time in the courtroom, we would be seeing the inside of prison.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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I guess it's very unlikely he'll go to prison. I don't actually think he should, given the crime was non-violent. Add in the political complications and it surely is very unlikely he'll get a custodial sentence?

But is it possible he'll be sentenced to do community service? Picking up trash or something? Is there a swamp somewhere he could be ordered to drain?
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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"The US elections are now reminiscent of the struggle of Oligarchs and Democrats in Ancient Greece, where each in turn they would exile each other, the vanquisher judging the vanquished each time."

A brilliant friend of mine coined this (not in English). I'm just translating it here for posterity.
This is the problem right here. Trump commits a lot of crimes and then treating him the same way our system would treat you or me is now some breakdown.

It’s not. Putting Trump in prison is a feature of a well run country, not a bug.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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This is the problem right here. Trump commits a lot of crimes and then treating him the same way our system would treat you or me is now some breakdown.

It’s not. Putting Trump in prison is a feature of a well run country, not a bug.

I don't think he should go to prison, for this one anyway. Prison should be reserved for the predatory and dangerous (OK, Trump is dangerous, but the danger he presents can be addressed in ways other than locking him up). But it's clearly not a political prosecution as the previous poster's quote implies, though.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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I don't think he should go to prison, for this one anyway. Prison should be reserved for the predatory and dangerous (OK, Trump is dangerous, but the danger he presents can be addressed in ways other than locking him up). But it's clearly not a political prosecution as the previous poster's quote implies, though.
Doctoring financial records is definitely prison worthy.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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I don't think he should go to prison, for this one anyway. Prison should be reserved for the predatory and dangerous (OK, Trump is dangerous, but the danger he presents can be addressed in ways other than locking him up). But it's clearly not a political prosecution as the previous poster's quote implies, though.
I think the US system is overly punitive in general, agreed, but to put it mildly if we are going to change that the last place to start is with the rich and powerful.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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"The US elections are now reminiscent of the struggle of Oligarchs and Democrats in Ancient Greece, where each in turn they would exile each other, the vanquisher judging the vanquished each time."

A brilliant friend of mine coined this (not in English). I'm just translating it here for posterity.

Trump does a whole lot of crime. Also, neither Democrats nor certainly not Biden did anything to Trump here. The state of NY prosecuted him because he is an unrepentant, lifelong criminal.

Oh, he has a lot more felonies to answer for, too.
 
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