Trump NY indictment thread

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fskimospy

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People - you can’t look at nearby houses as comps because they don’t come with the numerous, severely restrictive covenants that Mar A Lago does. It is not a house - it is required to be a social club, and it’s a not very large social club at that. People who have visited it are shocked at how small the place is. $1 billion? Not even remotely close.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I do agree that $18-27 million dollars is a ridiculously low valuation for Mara Lago. I suspect it’s MUCH more valuable on the market than that. Is it a billion dollar property as Eric claims? Errrrr….I doubt that, but easily over $100 million.
I mean, it's beachfront in FL. It's liable to be actually underwater in a few years. I guess if you have 100mil you don't care if it disappears.
 
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Pens1566

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People - you can’t look at nearby houses as comps because they don’t come with the numerous, severely restrictive covenants that Mar A Lago does. It is not a house - it is required to be a social club, and it’s a not very large social club at that. People who have visited it are shocked at how small the place is. $1 billion? Not even remotely close.

Right. It would be worth more on the market if it were residential. Hell, it'd be worth more as a vacant lot. The buildings/structures are mostly ancient, awful, and tacky as hell.
 
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APU_Fusion

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First Trump co-defendant pleads guilty is proof that Trump is innocent and is under attack by Soros and woke baby eater Hillary. Lock her up and execute the generals
 
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Charmonium

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Oh yeah. They're gonna start dropping like flies riding acid rain drops. Sizzle, sizzle, POP!

It wasn't worth 4 years of that shithead in office but watching him get dismantled, chunk by chunk is fitting justice. And hearing about his asking for advice about going to prison is truly satisfying if ever so grossly overdue.
 
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hal2kilo

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Cognitive dissonance personified:View attachment 86571
Must have practiced that look for days in front of a mirror.

And Oh by the way, can you spell dime store lawyer incompetence? I really can't believe this.


New York Judge Arthur Ergoron on Monday said that he is holding a bench trial in New York Attorney General Letitia James fraud lawsuit against former President Donald Trump because "nobody asked for" a jury trial on either side, The Messenger's Adam Klasfeld reported. "Trump isn't getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because his legal team didn't request one on the paperwork," explained The Guardian's Hugo Lowell.
 

IronWing

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Must have practiced that look for days in front of a mirror.

And Oh by the way, can you spell dime store lawyer incompetence? I really can't believe this.


New York Judge Arthur Ergoron on Monday said that he is holding a bench trial in New York Attorney General Letitia James fraud lawsuit against former President Donald Trump because "nobody asked for" a jury trial on either side, The Messenger's Adam Klasfeld reported. "Trump isn't getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because his legal team didn't request one on the paperwork," explained The Guardian's Hugo Lowell.
That should prevent multiple forms of trial delay.
 

Charmonium

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New York Judge Arthur Ergoron on Monday said that he is holding a bench trial in New York Attorney General Letitia James fraud lawsuit against former President Donald Trump because "nobody asked for" a jury trial on either side, The Messenger's Adam Klasfeld reported. "Trump isn't getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because his legal team didn't request one on the paperwork," explained The Guardian's Hugo Lowell.
Thanks man. I was wondering about that. I vaguely remember that very complex cases tend to be bench trials but I've never known if that was by consent of the parties or a matter of procedure. Guess it would have to be the former.

But yeah, Donald Duck seems to begging for the worst possible outcome.
 
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BoomerD

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And yet open additional avenues for appeal (judicial bias, ineffective counsel, etc).

Seems like ....it"s HIS legal team that HE hired ..."ineffective counsel" shouldn't be grounds for an appeal.

I DO think this so some kind of "legal strategy," either on his part, or his lawyers
 
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brycejones

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Seems like ....it"s HIS legal team that HE hired ..."ineffective counsel" shouldn't be grounds for an appeal.

I DO think this so some kind of "legal strategy," either on his part, or his lawyers
We know Trump is a shitty checkers player. There may be a "strategy" but it won't be successful.

This isn't an example of Trump playing 5D chess.
 
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hal2kilo

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Thanks man. I was wondering about that. I vaguely remember that very complex cases tend to be bench trials but I've never known if that was by consent of the parties or a matter of procedure. Guess it would have to be the former.

But yeah, Donald Duck seems to begging for the worst possible outcome.
He's in court having his lawyers criticize the judge, nudging them to speak up. This is going to work out just fine.
 

Stokely

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He looks like an angry, sulky child who didn't get his puddin' pops. Is that some hilarious attempt to be intimidating? I'm sure the judge is terrified. Probably all he can do not to crack up.

And yeah he continues to call the judge unhinged (all while looking quite unhinged himself in court). That might not be the smartest move, but then again he probably knows he's screwed and is just going for points for his cult.
 

Charmonium

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This is just the beginning as I'm sure most of you realize. But in the meantime, there's one judge monitoring his businesses and the amount of cash he has access to. So by appealing, regardless of whatever BS grounds, he's just prolonging the suffering. So . . . good for him. I need the entertainment.

A bit oddly though, the one way this could work for him is the fact that NYC real estate continues to rebound after covid with all sorts of comedy being derived from the trend like the old SNL skits that "The rent is too damn high."

So if say there's a 20% increase between now and maybe 2 or 3 years, he still won't be anywhere near his imagined net worth but he might get some crumbs from the sale of the properties.
 

Pens1566

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Seems like ....it"s HIS legal team that HE hired ..."ineffective counsel" shouldn't be grounds for an appeal.

I DO think this so some kind of "legal strategy," either on his part, or his lawyers

It doesn't matter that it's his counsel that he hired, it's still possible. In fact, I heard some pundits discussing the possibility earlier today.
 
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