Trump NY indictment thread

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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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That court appointed watchdog is a retired federal judge-about the highest standard you can get for an overseer. Sure is looking to me like Trump tried to reclassify $48 million in payments to him as loan repayments rather than taxable income. Just a minor misunderstanding. OTOH he really should get the same treatment on this that Hunter Biden is going through at a minimum-but Hunter already paid the taxes and penalties, Trump will dispute it forever.

Apparently Trump has gone ballistic about this in his most recent twits.
So mushroom pics in the Congressional Record?
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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…OTOH he really should get the same treatment on this that Hunter Biden is going through at a minimum-but Hunter already paid the taxes and penalties, Trump will dispute it forever.

Apparently Trump has gone ballistic about this in his most recent twits.
No. That will not happen. Different rules for conservatives. From the article:

“This explains why the Republicans have been so intent on cutting the IRS’s budget,” he said, “because they don’t want it to be able to audit transactions like this.”
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Incoming appeal for en banc review. And further delay. Followed by SCOTUS review. And further delay.
en banc review will be denied. Trump's only outside hope here is for SCOTUS to deliberately put its thumb on the scale and sit on the case, but I doubt that will happen either.

While this decision took slightly longer than I thought it would (by like two weeks) it proceeded more than fast enough to ensure Trump's trial is done before the election and the result was exactly what I (and every sane person) predicted.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Incoming appeal for en banc review. And further delay. Followed by SCOTUS review. And further delay.

DC Circuit should refuse appeal for en banc and put the matter before SCOTUS where it's going anyway.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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en banc review will be denied. Trump's only outside hope here is for SCOTUS to deliberately put its thumb on the scale and sit on the case, but I doubt that will happen either.

While this decision took slightly longer than I thought it would (by like two weeks) it proceeded more than fast enough to ensure Trump's trial is done before the election and the result was exactly what I (and every sane person) predicted.

DC Circuit should refuse appeal for en banc and put the matter before SCOTUS where it's going anyway.
DC should refuse, but it's not a slam dunk that they will. There may be a need (for optics) for them to affirm with a larger unanimous decision. Either way, it'll still add some cycles. Same with SCOTUS. At least enough that the lesser NYS case will likely go first.
 

fskimospy

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DC Circuit should refuse appeal for en banc and put the matter before SCOTUS where it's going anyway.
Hard to see there being enough votes for an en banc hearing in the DC circuit. While it's always possible that SCOTUS will try to tank the prosecution (Thomas and Alito probably will) overall the court hasn't been friendly at all to Trump's various claims since the 2020 election.
 

K1052

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Hard to see there being enough votes for an en banc hearing in the DC circuit. While it's always possible that SCOTUS will try to tank the prosecution (Thomas and Alito probably will) overall the court hasn't been friendly at all to Trump's various claims since the 2020 election.

Yeah pretty much. This likely all ends with a 7-2 SCOTUS decision against immunity.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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Just read a bit more ... stay is lifted if he asks for any DC rehearing. Guessing they'll skip that and go direct to SCOTUS. So at least a week at minimum until the trial can go forward then.
 
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Roger Wilco

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Mar 20, 2017
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The comment section on the FoxNews article is bafflingly rational and civil? I guess they are using more hardcore moderation these days?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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The comment section on the FoxNews article is bafflingly rational and civil? I guess they are using more hardcore moderation these days?
Let's hope so, although in this case I would think (hope?) that it might have sunk in for some Fox viewers that if Trump's theory were correct Biden could simply have him taken out back and shot without consequence.
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
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Lol but not surprised. Repugnican congress critters calling this ruling a partisan political witch-hunt.
 
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dullard

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May 21, 2001
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How dare they not grant Biden absolute immunity!!!!!!!!
That is what baffles me. If Trump's argument is correct, then Biden never needs to turn the presidency over to Trump if Trump wins an election. Therefore, Trump could still lose all that he is fighting for.

Not that I should think logic is part of the plan. Civil war is the plan.
 
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eelw

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Dec 4, 1999
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That is what baffles me. If Trump's argument is correct, then Biden never needs to turn the presidency over to Trump if Trump wins an election. Therefore, Trump could still lose all that he is fighting for.

Not that I should think logic is part of the plan. Civil war is the plan.
Yup I wondered what their pretzel logic to deny Biden the same consideration
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Back to the indictment....

So this Wiesselberg perjury thing looks like big trouble after all. You go judge.


Sit in jail for the 2 million that you may never get your hands on. Don't you know that all Trump employees are required to have emergency lube on them at all times.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Back to the indictment....

So this Wiesselberg perjury thing looks like big trouble after all. You go judge.


Sit in jail for the 2 million that you may never get your hands on. Don't you know that all Trump employees are required to have emergency lube on them at all times.
Yep. This may yet bring a total end to Trump businesses. Let's make a deal. Finally, giving up the high moral ground of blind loyalty for your ass not sitting in stir. Some people are slow learners.

 
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