Trump NY indictment thread

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nOOky

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So your plan thinking running for office would save you failed. Stable genius.

Out of all of his plans this is probably the most realistic option out of the bat shit options his lawyers have come up with. He still has a chance to win in 2024 (I know, I know) and then everything would just go away, and he'd probably die in the white house. hence the attempts to keep appealing and delaying.
 

fskimospy

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Out of all of his plans this is probably the most realistic option out of the bat shit options his lawyers have come up with. He still has a chance to win in 2024 (I know, I know) and then everything would just go away, and he'd probably die in the white house. hence the attempts to keep appealing and delaying.
You are correct. His odds of conviction in one or more of these cases are extremely high and at his age conviction in any of them probably means dying in prison.

If he wins the presidency the most dangerous federal cases go away and he has at least four more years of delay for the state cases. At his age he has a good chance of dying before they get resolved and/or he can probably hide out in a friendly red state after his second term. That is of course unless he decides to have a third term or anoint a dynastic successor.
 

BoomerD

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You are correct. His odds of conviction in one or more of these cases are extremely high and at his age conviction in any of them probably means dying in prison.

If he wins the presidency the most dangerous federal cases go away and he has at least four more years of delay for the state cases. At his age he has a good chance of dying before they get resolved and/or he can probably hide out in a friendly red state after his second term. That is of course unless he decides to have a third term or anoint a dynastic successor.

Trump will never serve a day in prison or jail for any of this shit. I've been saying it for years. I'll actually be surprised if the USSC doesn't throw out all the varied charges. (after all, what's the sense in buying a Supreme Court if they don't rule in your favor?)
 

fskimospy

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Trump will never serve a day in prison or jail for any of this shit. I've been saying it for years. I'll actually be surprised if the USSC doesn't throw out all the varied charges. (after all, what's the sense in buying a Supreme Court if they don't rule in your favor?)
Ok great. So when will you admit to being wrong?
 

fskimospy

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When he's actually sentenced and booked into jail/prison.
So along the way to that will you admit being wrong about other stuff too? Like SCOTUS isn’t going to throw out his charges so when they don’t you’ll admit to being wrong about that?

None of this is complicated. Trump is going to prison unless he dies or becomes president. This has been entirely obvious to anyone paying attention since 2021.

I remember when people kept saying he wouldn’t even be indicted when it was 1000% obvious he would be, repeatedly. Then they shifted the goalposts.
 

trenchfoot

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Comparing her buttery emails that in part led to Hillary's defeat at the polls with Trump's compounded trials, a conviction and summary judgement(?) against him, doesn't it seem so oddly mysterious how despite Clinton being cleared of any charges against her still led to her defeat while Trump's humiliating and very revealing travails in the legal system have only improved his ratings?

To what manner of logic can this totally illogical circumstance exist? How is it even possible to reconcile the glaring differences between how both presidential candidates were/are treated? Why and how can this kind of contradictions in judgment exist? How is it that Trump gets an all encompassing pre-paid pardon on his mounting legal issues and endless violations of ethics and morals past and present any of which would disqualify him while his opponents are held to a grossly exaggerated and fabricated higher level of critique and consideration?

The mysteries of life can be so confounding at times where God is somehow on Trump's side of the equation.
 
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fskimospy

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Comparing her buttery emails that in part led to Hillary's defeat at the polls with Trump's compounded trials, a conviction and summary judgement(?) against him, doesn't it seem so oddly mysterious how despite Clinton being cleared of any charges against her still led to her defeat while Trump's humiliating and very revealing travails in the legal system have only improved his ratings?

To what manner of logic can this totally illogical circumstance exist? How is it even possible to reconcile the glaring differences between how both presidential candidates were/are treated? Why and how can this kind of contradictions in judgment exist? How is it that Trump gets an all encompassing pre-paid pardon on his mounting legal issues and endless violations of ethics and morals past and present any of which would disqualify him while his opponents are held to a grossly exaggerated and fabricated higher level of critique and consideration?

The mysteries of life can be so confounding at times where God is somehow on Trump's side of the equation.
I think Trump's indictments improved his standing among Republicans. I think a conviction will be a very large general election problem for him.
 

soundforbjt

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So along the way to that will you admit being wrong about other stuff too? Like SCOTUS isn’t going to throw out his charges so when they don’t you’ll admit to being wrong about that?

None of this is complicated. Trump is going to prison unless he dies or becomes president. This has been entirely obvious to anyone paying attention since 2021.

I remember when people kept saying he wouldn’t even be indicted when it was 1000% obvious he would be, repeatedly. Then they shifted the goalposts.
So, how will Secret Service protection work in prison? Does his detail serve his sentence too?
 

BoomerD

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So along the way to that will you admit being wrong about other stuff too? Like SCOTUS isn’t going to throw out his charges so when they don’t you’ll admit to being wrong about that?

None of this is complicated. Trump is going to prison unless he dies or becomes president. This has been entirely obvious to anyone paying attention since 2021.

I remember when people kept saying he wouldn’t even be indicted when it was 1000% obvious he would be, repeatedly. Then they shifted the goalposts.

I was one of the "he'll never be charged or arraigned" people...and when it happened, I admitted that I was wrong about that...and totally shocked that it happened.
I still say he'll never face any jail or prison sentence...and, of course, because of his "celebrity status," even if he's convicted, he'll "serve his time" as a free man.
 

manly

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Jan 25, 2000
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Comparing her buttery emails that in part led to Hillary's defeat at the polls with Trump's compounded trials, a conviction and summary judgement(?) against him, doesn't it seem so oddly mysterious how despite Clinton being cleared of any charges against her still led to her defeat while Trump's humiliating and very revealing travails in the legal system have only improved his ratings?

To what manner of logic can this totally illogical circumstance exist? How is it even possible to reconcile the glaring differences between how both presidential candidates were/are treated? Why and how can this kind of contradictions in judgment exist? How is it that Trump gets an all encompassing pre-paid pardon on his mounting legal issues and endless violations of ethics and morals past and present any of which would disqualify him while his opponents are held to a grossly exaggerated and fabricated higher level of critique and consideration?

The mysteries of life can be so confounding at times where God is somehow on Trump's side of the equation.
it's not rocket science, MAGA Is a full on cult.

The most ironic part of it all is outside of tax policy and mafia-level corruption, Donald Trump is about as fake a conservative Republican as you can find. Recall that in 2016, evangelicals in Iowa rejected him in the caucuses. Now they love him like a brother LOL.
 
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hal2kilo

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Breaking no links. MSNBC just said 127 million is the number.

NBC news just breaking in, it's 187 million. Trump's only banned for 3 years from doing business, 2 years for the kidos. More numbers coming in, over 300 364 million. This is confusing.
 
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manly

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Jan 25, 2000
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We know the Trump mafia family will appeal, which will take years. Is this like the E. Jean Carroll decision, where they will have to put $350M into an escrow account? Trump Org doesn't have that kind of cash flow LOL.
 
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