akugami
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Republicans: ‘prosecutors need to enforce the law!
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Republicans: ‘no, not like that!’
Should we be investigating dick picts on a laptop, headed by a pedophile protector?
Republicans: ‘prosecutors need to enforce the law!
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Republicans: ‘no, not like that!’
I put it at closer to 50-70% of republicans being cultists. To me, the surest indication is polling regarding the 2020 election. Only a Trump cultist would actually believe that nonsense.
Lol. So trump is poor enough that he has to put his lawyer on a payment planI saw somewhere today that Cohen said it was 11 transactions.
Nope!So. Anyone else a little bit worried about how this can be used to propel his 2024 bid to escape velocity.
Lol. So trump is poor enough that he has to put his lawyer on a payment plan
sorry to be a pedant, but the House impeached Trump twice (on partisan grounds). The Senate twice failed to convict, also on partisan grounds. It's hard to say definitively what conference is worse for America, the extreme wack-jobs in the House GOP or the extremely old Senators who probably think the 1950s was the apex of America. Both are bad, in different ways; but filibuster rules make the Senate GOP old guard much more effective at obstruction.This only proves the Republicans supporting him don't support the rule of law in this country. I had thought that at least some would be dumping Trump after all of his violations of the law. We are at this point in history because of a bunch of spineless Senate Republicans who refused to impeach Trump (twice) when he was obviously guilty. RIP GOP
Correct, and there could be a couple charges filed per check. Cohen's lawyer was on MtP and sounded very much like a lawyer (of which I have a generally low opinion of). But he pointed out that the Karen McDougal catch and kill payoff should also be a federal election violation, since Michael Cohen pled guilty for merely pushing paperwork for this payoff.I saw somewhere today that Cohen said it was 11 transactions.
As always, be careful what you wish for. As 538 has put it for a long time, Trump has a high floor (at least 30% of the electorate votes for him no matter who he murders) but a low ceiling. His national approval rating has never come close to 50% for a sustained time (except for the initial pandemic period when the federal response, as bungled as it was, could be viewed in crisis terms). We know from history that Trump cannot win the popular vote, but he can win the EC if the opponent is also highly unpopular AND runs a shitty campaign that ignored the Rust Belt.I sure hope you're right, that Trump will lose the primary. Because that all but eliminates any chance of the GOP taking the White House. Even if Trump doesn't split the vote by running independent, he'll spend the entire general election season bad mouthing DeSantis and depressing republican turnout.
As always, be careful what you wish for. As 538 has put it for a long time, Trump has a high floor (at least 30% of the electorate votes for him no matter who he murders) but a low ceiling. His national approval rating has never come close to 50% for a sustained time (except for the initial pandemic period when the federal response, as bungled as it was, could be viewed in crisis terms). We know from history that Trump cannot win the popular vote, but he can win the EC if the opponent is also highly unpopular AND runs a shitty campaign that ignored the Rust Belt.
My point is that we know from 2020 that Joe Biden can beat DJT decisively. That shouldn't be any different in 2024, except Biden's approval rating needs to improve before then. I don't pay close attention to Gov. DeathSantis. He almost certainly doesn't excite people as Trump at MAGA rallies, but I haven't seen evidence that he's a milquetoast either. With a lot less baggage than DJT, and his record of governance (note I didn't say good governance), he could be a much stronger candidate in the general. I'm pretty sure DeathSantis has a higher ceiling than DJT amongst the entire electorate, and that should scare the hell out of Dem. strategists.
IIRC Trump won in 2016 not so much for increasing turnout. But by depressing Dem. turnout and flipping a small number of swing voters in the Rust Belt. 2020 was more of a turnout contest, but both parties seemed to have a good ground effort and mostly nullified each other's efforts.
Its a forgone conclusion. Trump is unwinnable based on everything different from 2016 (dead COVID vaccine deniers, dead boomers, people who realized he's radioactive, middle-road R's who realized he's shit, people he's likely to get indicted, etc). DeSantis is unwinnable from the morons who still support Trump. Republicans created what's effectively a three-party system (the worst system) with themselves in the dual minority.My point wasn't that DeSantis is a worse general election candidate than Trump, though he may well be. It's that Trump losing the primary would mean he will sabatoge DeSantis in the general election by constantly sniping at him over social media, day after day after day. Based on past behavior, there's near 100% chance of Trump behaving this way. That's going to cause people in that 30% floor you mentioned to not show up and vote for DeSantis. So yes, I most definitely hope Trump loses the primary. Heck, Trump would probably even say the GOP primary was rigged. Would that be a surprise?
My point is that you are way too certain on this scenario, and we really don't know how it would play out. If Trump can't defeat DeSantis under ideal conditions (a primary race), how strong of a voice does he really have over the GOP electorate? Based on polling you cited earlier, DJT would have blown approx. a 30-point lead. Don't get me wrong, your points are indeed salient. But in a vacuum, I'd be more worried about an opponent who could crack 50% than one who could never exceed 48%.My point wasn't that DeSantis is a worse general election candidate than Trump, though he may well be. It's that Trump losing the primary would mean he will sabatoge DeSantis in the general election by constantly sniping at him over social media, day after day after day. Based on past behavior, there's near 100% chance of Trump behaving this way. That's going to cause people in that 30% floor you mentioned to not show up and vote for DeSantis. So yes, I most definitely hope Trump loses the primary. Heck, Trump would probably even say the GOP primary was rigged. Would that be a surprise?
Assuming the orange monkey managed to get 270 and it was legit, I see Biden granting a pardon as one of his last actsI certainly hope we can avoid the catastrophe of having our first President running the country from jail. Surely he will have enough good sense to pardon himself and avoid such a spectacle. Where would American exceptionalism be if not anything is possible here.
They'll publicly support him as long as they think it serves their purposes. That could change at any time what with the unpredictable rapids ahead.But even with all this faux outrage, they’ll support him until the end. Absolutely no shame these people.
I can see it but I do doubt he would. Anyway, I don't think we really need to worry. Trump is toast.Assuming the orange monkey managed to get 270 and it was legit, I see Biden granting a pardon as one of his last acts
the words of a totally innocent man. jesus.I could have sworn that Russia was the good guys according to most Trump followers just a few days ago.
If and when trump is convicted and goes to jail how will they determine which secret service agents go with him? Draw names out of a hat?
The extradition clause of the US Constitution says he has no choice. But we all know how Rom Desaster follows the constitution.. fucker should be in a jail cell, right next to Trump.Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Rom DeSaster probably wouldn't extradite him from Flowrida.