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zinfamous

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No effing idea at this stage.

Also you seem to be having a misunderstand about how appeals work. You have to have specific grounds to have an appeal heard. It's not like our justice system gives you free retries if you don't like the outcome.

Really? because that kinda sounds like the exact opposite of everything we've been seeing with our court system over the last decade with these criminal politicians, and Trump especially.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Maybe the SDNY can work out an agreement with the Klingons and send Trump to Rurapente to serve time.....

I'd be fine with Guantanamo, because that is designated for terrorists and those pledging to do violence against the United States and her people, right? All of these things we know that Trump has said and has tried to do. No question there.

In fact, I'd like to see a swap: transfer the ~7 or so detainees still held at Guantanamo--because no country and no state will take them--to MaraLago, then keep Guantanamo open for all Trump family members and handlers and allies.

Seems like the only fair thing to do.
 

zinfamous

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There was a poll showing 68% of the republicans disagree with you. 37% agree with you. 16% are undecided.

Polls are mostly bullshit. I almost got tricked one time by one.

Q: Do you believe in reducing government spending?
Me: Yes
Q: So you agree the government should be reducing spending on bills like the Build Back Better plan.
Me: Yes...wait...WTF?!?

I had to tell the person off and said that while I agree with reduced government spending, the Build Back Better plan will help America and I fully agree with that plan.

Don't worry, those Faux pollsters lied about your response anyway when they reported their "poll" results on air.
 

soundforbjt

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Governor Sununu was on Real Time last night and said he didn’t think trump would be the nominee but if he was he’d still vote for him. Still think there’s any rational republicans left?
 
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MrSquished

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Trump will not be in jail before the election. Of course he was going to get indicted at some point, agreed with that all along, but you won't see him behind bars anytime before election day 2024.
 
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Ajay

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Governor Sununu was on Real Time last night and said he didn’t think trump would be the nominee but if he was he’d still vote for him. Still think there’s any rational republicans left?
I have no idea why he is running for president, no way he can win.He's not really a MAGAT, but has to do the dance. Also, he’s been a good governor as a chief executive - so I’d rather he stay in office.
 

blackangst1

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to be clear about what you said here: you think about 30 million people represents 10% of the Republican Party?

Do you ever math?
No I dont think that. wolff said
I put it at closer to 50-70% of republicans being cultists. To me, the surest indication is polling regarding the 2020 election. Only a Trump cultist would actually believe that nonsense.
I responded I put it at 10% meaning, I put it at 10% of Republicans being cultists. Cant believe I have to explain that.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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No I dont think that. wolff said

I responded I put it at 10% meaning, I put it at 10% of Republicans being cultists. Cant believe I have to explain that.

You could answer the question I asked before, which is:

So you think that most of the people who believe the 2020 election was stolen are not Trump cultists? I assume that means you think this is something about which reasonable minds could disagree?
 

blackangst1

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You could answer the question I asked before, which is:

So you think that most of the people who believe the 2020 election was stolen are not Trump cultists? I assume that means you think this is something about which reasonable minds could disagree?
Yes I think they are and arent living in reality.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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I certainly hope we can avoid the catastrophe of having our first President running the country from jail. Surely he will have enough good sense to pardon himself and avoid such a spectacle. Where would American exceptionalism be if not anything is possible here.

Assuming the orange monkey managed to get 270 and it was legit, I see Biden granting a pardon as one of his last acts

IF Trump goes to jail/prison from the NY or GA charges, neither Trump (should he somehow manage a win) nor Biden can pardon him for state charges.

The extradition clause of the US Constitution says he has no choice. But we all know how Rom Desaster follows the constitution.. fucker should be in a jail cell, right next to Trump.
Send the US Marshalls to extradite him. They don't need DeSantis to allow it.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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That’s about 60% of republicans.


I'd say about another 20-25% are equally as horrific as MAGATS, just even Trump's personality is a bit rough for them, but they will embrace fascism and oppression gladly, just with a different puppet master. And if push came to shove, most of the GQP would vote for Trump if they thought their vote could affect the election.
 

Moonbeam

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They'll publicly support him as long as they think it serves their purposes. That could change at any time what with the unpredictable rapids ahead.
To rise in status in a fanatical cult
IF Trump goes to jail/prison from the NY or GA charges, neither Trump (should he somehow manage a win) nor Biden can pardon him for state charges.


Send the US Marshalls to extradite him. They don't need DeSantis to allow it.
I'd prefer the Navy Seals.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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No I dont think that. wolff said

I responded I put it at 10% meaning, I put it at 10% of Republicans being cultists. Cant believe I have to explain that.

dude, you're having epic trouble here. it doesn't really matter what wolfe said because we know what you said. Some facts:

--the low ball estimate for total number of diehard unquestioning Trump supporters is about 30 million voters. 30 million voters. That's a flat, raw number, that no one really disagrees with or even imagines challenging.

are you with me? Good, because that's the easy part because no one of any susbstance questions this fact.

Now, you think 10% of republican voters represent this demographic of Trump cultists? If you think 10% of republican voters actually = 30 million heads, that means you are arguing that the total republican voter base is 300 million people.

That's how math works, and it's pretty simple. The only point of my response is that you should reconsider your numbers; and also start waking up to the fact that you are a proud member of a fucking minority anti-American cult of treasonous assholes.

We know that a minimum of 30 million will vote for Trump no matter what (it is likely closer to 40 million). You don't deny this, I imagine. So now...maybe you should start to consider that the claimed 60-70% of total republican voters are the actual cult (as they themselves consistently admit to in polling). Do you recall the number of heads Trump got to vote for him in 2020? Also another telling number that, without even accepting the base number that all analysts and polls and actual history of voting records tell us, your 10% claim is ridiculous.

It probably would be easier if you just accept that your political party is a fucking personality cult of uneducated murderous shitheads, and maybe start reconsidering where your ideology truly lays.

So, do you honestly think that 300 million Republican voters exist in the US, thus representing exactly 90% of the TOTAL US POPULATION?

Because that is the reality that your claim is required to accept in order to be anything close to accurate. Do you accept that?

Honestly, I and I think everyone else here understands why you make such a preposterously hilarious claim, because you can't accept the fact that the entire ideology that you have grown up with is really exactly what MAGA is. All these people that you have voted for, lived with and chat with, are pretty much completely insane people. It's important for you to lowball that number in such way as to think it is really an inconsequential number because, as I do agree that you aren't likely to be one of these pure violent shitheads, it's still important to your self-worth to identify as a "True Republican" or "True conservative," whatever the fuck that means, so you have to imagine that this is just a blip on the timeline (despite the known fact that this was only ever inevitable with the Republican party after they shoved that traitorous assholes piece of human filth Reagan onto the rest of us--but none of you accept that plain fact, either--so it really isn't a surprise that after 40 years of this fact being well-established, you guys still deny it and worship the first primary shitclown as some sort of saint)

Anyway, your attempt to lowball in this way to diminish the plain problems with your chosen ideology is certainly understandable, but understand that when you do that, you are required to reject absolutely unassailable quantified demographic facts for which you can not possibly reject without being understood to be a "complete fucking tool idiot," or some such....I don't really think that of you, which is why I only wanted to point out that your estimate was wholly absurd and you weren't thinking clearly when you made it.
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
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I dont think we have 70 million cultists. I think we have tens of millions of dumb people who've been lied to all their lives, and are also angry about how America is progressing.
Thats a surefire recipe for disaster. But its not a cult.

NOW, for people who take rifles to pizzerias, or drive over college students, or take rifles to overthrow the capital, or illegally acquire a rifle and go out of their way to hunt down and shoot protestors?
Yeah, that's a fucking cult.
 
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