Trump NY indictment thread

[Fanatical Meat]

I like how the neutral arbiter here thinks Hillary Clinton is guilty without a trial but Donald Trump is innocent even after conviction.

Appears Donald will have a second chance at bringing Hillary and Biden to trial for all the horrible things he has said they have done.
I am waiting for that to happen *again*

 

[ch33zw1z]

Appears Donald will have a second chance at bringing Hillary and Biden to trial for all the horrible things he has said they have done.
I am waiting for that to happen *again*

How many will that be for Hilary? Like 10+ now?

 

[UNCjigga]

GA case is limping along, but I suspect even Fani Willis realizes that she’ll have to suspend the case against Trump and separate that case if she has any hope of trying a successful case against Mark Meadows or any other co-defendants.

 

[outriding]

How many will that be for Hilary? Like 10+ now?

Wiki says 10 just for Benghazi alone and 6 were done led by republicans

 

[hal2kilo]

As expected.

Special counsel Jack Smith and his team to resign before Trump takes office

Smith's federal criminal cases against Trump were upended by the election, as the Justice Department's longstanding policy is that sitting presidents can't be charged with crimes.

www.nbcnews.com

Might want to take a long vacation out of the country.

 

[fskimospy]

As expected.

Special counsel Jack Smith and his team to resign before Trump takes office

Smith's federal criminal cases against Trump were upended by the election, as the Justice Department's longstanding policy is that sitting presidents can't be charged with crimes.

www.nbcnews.com

Might want to take a long vacation out of the country.

This is the best outcome Smith could achieve but yes if I were him I would probably move abroad as the risk of federal law enforcement being used to protect criminals instead of prosecute them is high. I mean that’s what Trump is promising at least.

Resigning is good though as this will let him issue his report without a Trump AG distorting it. Let’s hope he goes heroically and lays it all out in absolutely excruciating detail.

 

[K1052]

As expected.

Special counsel Jack Smith and his team to resign before Trump takes office

Smith's federal criminal cases against Trump were upended by the election, as the Justice Department's longstanding policy is that sitting presidents can't be charged with crimes.

www.nbcnews.com

Might want to take a long vacation* out of the country.

*apply for political asylum

 

[nakedfrog]

Appears Donald will have a second chance at bringing Hillary and Biden to trial for all the horrible things he has said they have done.
I am waiting for that to happen *again*

Trump already said way back when "we don't care about that anymore" when people were chanting "lock her up" after his first win.

 

[BoomerD]

Not quite a done deal, but most likely BoomerD gets to say "I told you so." If the Manhattan DA fights this up to SCROTUS, he will lose.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics/decision-on-trumps-new-york-hush-money-case-is-delayed/index.html

The GA RICO case is obviously dead, and I have no idea what happens with the NYS civil judgment that's being appealed.

Trust me...on this, I get zero pleasure in being right.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Sadly I think he'll get off like he always does without any tangible consequences.

 

[gothuevos]

Everyone knew from page 1 of this thread that nothing was going to happen to him.

People really think Jack Smith needs to flee the country???

 

[NWRMidnight]

Everyone knew from page 1 of this thread that nothing was going to happen to him.

People really think Jack Smith needs to flee the country???

If Trump follows thru with his threats of arresting all of his enemies.. hell yes he needs to flee. I think you are going to be in for a rude awakening come January as we watch Trump follow thru on his threats.

I keep trying to fight the thoughts of simularities of when Saddam Hussein took over iraq vs when Trump takes over this country again. Saddam Hussein immediatly had all his enemies gathered up and shot. Trump has threatened to do the same short of shooting them on day one. But if Trump's plan is to become a dictatory (day one he says), he may not shoot them, but he may throw them in a dark cell, with their day in court to never come.. It would be naive to sit and believe he would never do such a thing. It's that naiveness that has lead us to where we are at today in this country.

 

[manly]

Trust me...on this, I get zero pleasure in being right.

Sadly I think he'll get off like he always does without any tangible consequences.

We all knew that Teflon Don could skate... if he won the election. But it was a little weird people gave BoomerD shit for thinking this.

I'm hopeful he'll still pay the civil penalties, but there's zero chance any of the criminal charges will ever stick. Even if one miraculously did (post 47), Donny would just run out the clock with appeals.

Everyone knew from page 1 of this thread that nothing was going to happen to him.

People really think Jack Smith needs to flee the country???

Wasn't Smith living in England prior to his appointment by the DoJ?

 

[outriding]

So. Hear me out.

Say Biden pardons trump for the sexual assault/ rape of EJ Carrol.

Pardoning Trump would mean trump would have to accept he is guilty of rape.

I would think that would be good for 2 reasons

1) EJC civil lawsuits should be easier
2) other women he raped would be much more credible

And no I was not drunk when I thought of this

 

[Brainonska511]

Say Biden pardons trump for the sexual assault/ rape of EJ Carrol.

Can't pardon civil cases between private parties.

 

[outriding]

Can't pardon civil cases between private parties.

I known pardon the criminal part

 

[Brainonska511]

I known pardon the criminal part

There is no criminal conviction or case with EJC.

It would also be a state case, not a federal one.

This is just bad performance art. There are much better ways to do performance debate to get the public on your side.

 

[manly]

So. Hear me out.

Say Biden pardons trump for the sexual assault/ rape of EJ Carrol.

Pardoning Trump would mean trump would have to accept he is guilty of rape.

I would think that would be good for 2 reasons

1) EJC civil lawsuits should be easier
2) other women he raped would be much more credible

And no I was not drunk when I thought of this

This is not a good admission.

 

[QueBert]

So. Hear me out.

Say Biden pardons trump for the sexual assault/ rape of EJ Carrol.

Pardoning Trump would mean trump would have to accept he is guilty of rape.

I would think that would be good for 2 reasons

1) EJC civil lawsuits should be easier
2) other women he raped would be much more credible

And no I was not drunk when I thought of this

Trump would never accept he's guilty though. This is the same man who got in trouble for paying hush money to a porn star. Then after he was found guilty and the trial was over. Was still maintaining he'd never had sex with her. We weren't talking a maybe accusation that was never verified. He did it but even to this day will say he never touched her.

 

[nOOky]

Trump raped her, and declined from the outset to submit DNA to get himself off, instead he chose to spend a lot of time and money to fight it. It's what all innocent people do.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump raped her, and declined from the outset to submit DNA to get himself off, instead he chose to spend a lot of time and money to fight it. It's what all innocent people do.

He definitely got himself off.

 

[iRONic]

Many people got screwed on this deal.

 

[manly]

This article says no jail time, fine or probation is expected.

Trump to be sentenced in hush money case on 10 January

The US president-elect dismisses the case as "nothing but a rigged charade".

www.bbc.com

 

[fskimospy]

This article says no jail time, fine or probation is expected.

Trump to be sentenced in hush money case on 10 January

The US president-elect dismisses the case as "nothing but a rigged charade".

www.bbc.com

From my understanding this is in line with what is done for other people convicted here so it seems reasonable.

 

[iRONic]

The Guardian piece says:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, signaled in a written decision that he would sentence the former and future president to what is known as a conditional discharge, in which a case gets dismissed if a defendant avoids rearrest.

Judge sets date for Trump hush-money sentencing but rules out prison term

President-elect will be sentenced for his 34 felony convictions on 10 January, Judge Juan Merchan rules

www.theguardian.com