It's called air superiority and drones. No troops are getting put in harm's way. Plus he can't just order them to bomb bomb bomb without checks. This isn't TV.
You are trying way too hard.
Just admit it. Trump is an idiot.
Americans were attacked. It happens. Big deal.
What you need is the context, the big picture.
Benghazi is the crowning achievement of Hillary's misadventures in the Middle East where the US helped push for regime change, and then used Benghazi in an arms deal with Turkey to arm terrorists in Syria for more regime change. It's the elephant in the room of the Democrat's Neocon agenda as operated during the Obama Presidency.
Hope and Change turned into George W. Bush's third and fourth terms.
Hope and Change gave us the Arab Spring.
Hope and Change gave us ISIS.
Americans want new policy in the Middle East and north Africa, not more of the same.
Right, because we lost thousands of American soldiers, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and blew a couple trillion dollars in Libya, just like Iraq.Sad that your comments got lost in all of this. We NEVER should've gone into Libya. The dems railed against Bush and pretty much pulled a Bush in Libya.
Sad that your comments got lost in all of this. We NEVER should've gone into Libya. The dems railed against Bush and pretty much pulled a Bush in Libya.
Right, because we lost thousands of American soldiers, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and blew a couple trillion dollars in Libya, just like Iraq.
Bu bu Libya costed a lot less. So it is ok to topple govts and create chaos if it costs us very little.
How exactly did we create chaos in a country that was already in the middle of a bloody civil war?
I emailed the White House press office several times asking for concrete evidence of the danger, based on any information the administration may have. But a spokesman declined to comment.
That's a surprising omission, given that a looming holocaust was the centerpiece of the president's case for war. Absent specific, reliable evidence, we have to wonder if the president succumbed to unwarranted panic over fictitious dangers.
Seriously? It is like you forgot we got involved right as Libyan forces were about to capture Benghazi and deal the rebels a massive defeat. Hillary pushed for intervention. She got her way. The result of our intervention which toppled of Qaddafi regime because it well beyond a no-fly zone has been a total shits how ever since. Resulting in basically endless bloodshed since.
Im sure you will respond with the administrations line about a genocide that was going to happen if Benghazi falls. That was a far fetched result.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...10403_1_president-obama-benghazi-barack-obama
So you seem to be arguing more that we prolonged chaos in a country that was already completely engulfed in it. This is possible, although of course it's impossible to prove the counterfactual. It also assumes that without US action the intervention wouldn't have happened, which is a dubious claim considering the intervention was primarily pushed by France and the UK.
The idea that Libya would have been fine and would not have descended into chaos absent US action is basically bullshit.
^Easily duped by the media again. How does it feel to be so gullible? baa baa.Trump Presidency Is a Global Threat, Economist Intelligence Unit Warns
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...eat-economist-intelligence-unit-warns-n540416
"The firm pointed to a number of reasons, including Trump's hostility toward free trade, his accusing China of being a "currency manipulator, his advocating the killing of terrorists' families, and his proposal to move troops into Syria to fight ISIS and take its oil."
"Mr. Trump resembles other strongmen throughout history who have achieved power by manipulating democratic processes," the editorial board wrote. "Their playbook includes a casual embrace of violence; a willingness to wield government powers against personal enemies; contempt for a free press; demonization of anyone who is not white and Christian; intimations of dark conspiracies; and the propagation of sweeping, ugly lies."
Donald Trump Warns Supporters Could Riot if He Doesn't Get GOP Nomination
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...ters-may-riot-fears-violence-escalate-n540516
Hillary sure does. Claims it's her "biggest regret". Funny that you think it was a non-issue. You must be a Sanders fan.I seriously cant be the only person that doesnt gives two flying fucks about Benghazi. Never have, never will. Such a non-issue.
Blood is on our hands because we chose to intervene. Our direct involvement lead to what we have today. I agree we cant argue over what ifs. What we know is we intervened, destroyed Quadaffis forces ability to wage war which toppled his regime and a humanitarian disaster is what happened. This is Hillary deal 100%.
And worse, she hasnt learned and wants to do it again in Syria.
How does it feel to be so gullible?
"Yes, there is a team. There's not a team. I'm going to be forming a team. I have met with far more than three people." and then later "I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things. I know what I'm doing, and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people, and at the appropriate time I'll tell you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself and I have, you know, a good instinct for this stuff."
This response when he was asked about who his foreign policy advisers are:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/trump-foreign-policy-advisers-speaking-with-myself
Lol!..He's a SNL skit without the need for a writer. He just connects his asshole to his tongue and lets it speak in stream of consciousness that create a Rain Man inspired word salad.
He's a non-politician, what do you expect him to say? He's going to rely on Sessions, obviously.
Nice straw man. Pity it bears no resemblance to what I said.Bu bu Libya costed a lot less. So it is ok to topple govts and create chaos if it costs us very little.
Nice straw man. Pity it bears no resemblance to what I said.
Look, I get that the (former) Bush apologists desperately need to believe that Obama is just as bad as your total failure of a POTUS. Reality just doesn't support your craving, however. Bush and his dishonest invasion of Iraq is a hall of fame fiasco, an epic cluster-fsck that future historians will cite again and again as a perfect example of doing it wrong. Obama has plenty of his own failures, but nothing anywhere close to Iraq. That's reality. All you can do now is live with that sad fact, and maybe be a bit more discriminating in who you vote for in the future.
We aren't talking about who has blood on their hands though, we're talking about results. There is no way to know that our intervention made things worse and a similar foreign intervention seems like it was likely with or without our involvement. In fact, if that intervention was inevitable then we were smart to stand by our allies regardless.
I'm not saying that the US intervention into Libya was necessarily a good idea, but saying that we caused a humanitarian disaster or a descent into chaos is simply unsupportable. Chaos was already there.
Had western nations intervened in Syria exactly how would it be worse than it already was/is?
Please note the word "former". While I've noted your later change of heart, you were a vocal Bush apologist back in the day. There are plenty of threads here to prove it.Your first mistake is thinking I am a Bush apologist.
You continue to flog the same straw man. The exorbitant cost of Bush's misadventure in Iraq is only one of many reasons it was such an epic fiasco. Libya doesn't compare at all. I believe Eskimospy already gave a good overview of why.Your second mistake is again comparing the costs between the two disasters in foreign policy as if that is the measure historians and anybody should look back and say "well Libya didnt cost us much so it was good policy". Clinton in one of the first debates actually said it was a cheap foreign policy adventure. Totally disregarding the misery the power vaccum she help create that has been filled with the likes of AQ and ISIS on the people of that country.
Please note the word "former". While I've noted your later change of heart, you were a vocal Bush apologist back in the day. There are plenty of threads here to prove it.
You continue to flog the same straw man. The exorbitant cost of Bush's misadventure in Iraq is only one of many reasons it was such an epic fiasco. Libya doesn't compare at all. I believe Eskimospy already gave a good overview of why.