Trump paid $750 in taxes in 2016 and 2017.

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fskimospy

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I'd imagine that the IRS auditors have been looking for criminal activity in Trump's tax records for decades. They haven't found anything that put in him prison yet.
I think that is highly, highly unlikely. The most likely answer is the IRS has never looked for criminal activity in his returns at all, in line with the fact that the IRS has effectively stopped criminal tax enforcement for rich people.

Also, wouldn’t the fact that he got away with blatant tax fraud in the past indicate that the IRS isn’t catching it?
 
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K1052

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The idea that Trump is a billionaire who had to personally guarantee hundreds of millions in loans are concepts in direct conflict with each other.
 

fskimospy

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In case anyone forgot about Trump’s previous tax fraud:


So again, is the argument that he committed a bunch of tax fraud, didn’t get punished, and then decided to stop? Or is it that despite not catching him then the IRS will catch him now even with slashed budgets?
 
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BUTCH1

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His net worth is still 2.5B.

No matter how much you want to tell yourself that you're smarter and hes dumb.... He still has more than you. Let that sink in. You're not special.... Other than being a snowflake.
This is the thing, your 'net worth" has to include upcoming loan obligations, Trump paid a fortune for Doral then when he started crapping on Latino's the one's with $$ stopped going to Doral when it used to be a large revenue source. Now it's hemorrhaging cash and we all know Trumps involvement with Deutsche Bank, (because he's burned so many US banks/businesses few will go near him). If he wins he might be the 1st POTUS to go through foreclosure while still sitting,
"The paper reported: “In the 1990s, Mr Trump nearly ruined himself by personally guaranteeing hundreds of millions of dollars in loans, and he has since said that he regretted doing so. But he has taken the same step again, his tax records show. He appears to be responsible for loans totaling $421m, most of which is coming due within four years.”
In a blunt summary of the problem, the Times speculated: “Should he win re-election, his lenders could be placed in the unprecedented position of weighing whether to foreclose on a sitting president.”
 
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woolfe9998

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His net worth is still 2.5B.

No matter how much you want to tell yourself that you're smarter and hes dumb.... He still has more than you. Let that sink in. You're not special.... Other than being a snowflake.

First of all, what is your source as to his net worth?

Second of all, I couldn't give two shits whether someone is wealthier than I am. I mean, seriously, what is that? He's richer than you are, neener neener neener.

Donald Trump is a piece of garbage and you're just another in a long line of idiots who have been swinging from his dick. And now we know why: you think richer means "better." What a moron.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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His supporters knew he was a liar, a cheat, a thief & a con man the first time they voted for him. They admired him for getting away with it. They know he declared bankruptcy more times than they can remember & got richer every time. Milking the govt while President? The spoils of a hostile takeover.

Not all of them. I guaranty some of them think he's actually good at business.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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So the moral of this story is that Trump pays more to porn stars than tax collectors....right?

Nope-it's that you or I or probably just about anyone on these forums each pays more in federal income taxes than this clown did. Good thing he was in charge of drafting his tax "reform" bill, isn't it? He's scamming all of us.
 
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Grooveriding

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Where are you getting figures for his net worth from?

Going on the first post, and the ones since, he read the headline - none of the article - and felt it necessary to reflexively defend Trump. Even said he did nothing wrong immediately.

Anyone reading this first article can see there is real potential fraud relating to the 70 some odd million rebate he got. Also, lots of possibilities he has been inflating his losses. Oh, and writing off expenditures as 'consulting fees' which are actually payments he's been making to his kids.

Of course, I can't say he did commit a crime for sure, neither does the article. Certainly can't say he didn't. Must be fake news though, Trump said so. So nothing to see here. The deep fever swamp Trumpers don't even bother with reality anymore. Call it fake and troll. Trump has glorified being catastrophically dishonest for his followers.
 

nickqt

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Jan 15, 2015
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His net worth is still 2.5B.

No matter how much you want to tell yourself that you're smarter and hes dumb.... He still has more than you. Let that sink in. You're not special.... Other than being a snowflake.
Look at Nobody, the Mammon worshiper, screaming and gnashing his teeth at a mirror.

You go, Nobody!
 
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jman19

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Nov 3, 2000
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Not paying taxes isn't the only issue here. This is further evidence of Trump's utter incompetence in business. Almost everything he touches, fails. He was lucky enough to get over $400 million from his father. He pissed it away on failed casinos. Then he got another $450 million from his reality TV show, which he has been pissing away on failed golf courses.

It's incredible that Trump sold himself as "the money man" to these people and that they actually believe him.

He's either a terrible businessman, or a tax dodger. He can't have it both ways.
 
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I'd imagine that the IRS auditors have been looking for criminal activity in Trump's tax records for decades. They haven't found anything that put in him prison yet.

He thinks the public eye knows more about tax law than the CPA of Trump AND the IRS auditors lol.

Blissful ignorance - it's pretty cute.
 
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This is the thing, your 'net worth" has to include upcoming loan obligations, Trump paid a fortune for Doral then when he started crapping on Latino's the one's with $$ stopped going to Doral when it used to be a large revenue source. Now it's hemorrhaging cash and we all know Trumps involvement with Deutsche Bank, (because he's burned so many US banks/businesses few will go near him). If he wins he might be the 1st POTUS to go through foreclosure while still sitting,
"The paper reported: “In the 1990s, Mr Trump nearly ruined himself by personally guaranteeing hundreds of millions of dollars in loans, and he has since said that he regretted doing so. But he has taken the same step again, his tax records show. He appears to be responsible for loans totaling $421m, most of which is coming due within four years.”
In a blunt summary of the problem, the Times speculated: “Should he win re-election, his lenders could be placed in the unprecedented position of weighing whether to foreclose on a sitting president.”

Christ folks, just google Trump Net Worth. You're not more intelligent than whatever article first pops up. You don't know more about his business ventures or his personal investments.

Plenty of people here are entirely moronically stupid and don't even understand the concept that filing for bankruptcy as a business has absolutely jack-shit to do with a person's net worth.
 
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He's either a terrible businessman, or a tax dodger. He can't have it both ways.

He paid the amount of taxes that he was legally liable to pay. Anything more is childish and moronic.

Also the concept of thinking that he is the one filing his evil returns is laughable lol.
 
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SmCaudata

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Do you understand that any random person could be sitting on a billion dollars and not pay a cent in taxes? You aren't taxed on how much you have, your taxed on how much you made.

I won't comment on the story posted because I don't have any information other than a tweet.
He claimed he was worth $10bil. I highly doubt its in his mattress. Even at the ridiculously low capital gains rate of 15% he'd be paying quite a bit.
 
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Fenixgoon

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I think that is highly, highly unlikely. The most likely answer is the IRS has never looked for criminal activity in his returns at all, in line with the fact that the IRS has effectively stopped criminal tax enforcement for rich people.

Also, wouldn’t the fact that he got away with blatant tax fraud in the past indicate that the IRS isn’t catching it?

exactly. going after super wealthy individuals or corporations means having a team available to sift through mountains of paperwork, and there are only so many people available and hours within a day. IRS simply has to make choices about what it thinks is the best use of its resources, like any other large organization.
 

hal2kilo

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exactly. going after super wealthy individuals or corporations means having a team available to sift through mountains of paperwork, and there are only so many people available and hours within a day. IRS simply has to make choices about what it thinks is the best use of its resources, like any other large organization.
GOP's been stripping the IRS budget cause they supposedly go after conservative political groups. At least, that's their cover story for the masses. Oh look at that over there (Billionaires chuckle to themselves).
 
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jman19

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He paid the amount of taxes that he was legally liable to pay. Anything more is childish and moronic.

Also the concept of thinking that he is the one filing his evil returns is laughable lol.

Forgot option 3: the fox is in the hen house. Guess the people without an army of lawyers and tax accountants are are out of luck.

Keep on being a cuck for people who inherit millions.
 

Grey_Beard

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Christ folks, just google Trump Net Worth. You're not more intelligent than whatever article first pops up. You don't know more about his business ventures or his personal investments.

Plenty of people here are entirely moronically stupid and don't even understand the concept that filing for bankruptcy as a business has absolutely jack-shit to do with a person's net worth.

Oh, yeah, that’s right, every article that Google shows has been vetted and validated. You probably think that anything posted on the Internet is true. Your professors in college must have loved your research papers. You must have referenced the best sources that most people in your class must have been talking about. Some people even said your sources were the best. Not the professors though, they were libruls that were part of that pizza-shop pedophile ring.

He paid the amount of taxes that he was legally liable to pay. Anything more is childish and moronic.

Also the concept of thinking that he is the one filing his evil returns is laughable lol.

Maybe. Maybe he under reported his income and over reported his expenses. Not that anything there is illegal. I bet you do it too. You save like a $million year, at least.
 
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