Trump pardons January 6th brownshirts

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Sunburn74

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At the end of the day, these are not fine people and probably a large percentage will return to civilian life only to run their lives into the ground. Pardoned or not they probably will never really end up "well off" in society. I feel for the capital police who suffered on Jan 6 but I know that things have a way of balancing out in the end.
 

nakedfrog

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At the end of the day, these are not fine people and probably a large percentage will return to civilian life only to run their lives into the ground. Pardoned or not they probably will never really end up "well off" in society. I feel for the capital police who suffered on Jan 6 but I know that things have a way of balancing out in the end.
Depends on how many are accepted into the griftosphere.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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So IAW the Supreme Court they are guilty of "something".
Yes, the presumption being that they'll be guilty of the crime that Trump invents to make them guilty. There's no point in pardoning them unless you feel they're going to be persecuted for something.
 
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eelw

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At the end of the day, these are not fine people and probably a large percentage will return to civilian life only to run their lives into the ground. Pardoned or not they probably will never really end up "well off" in society. I feel for the capital police who suffered on Jan 6 but I know that things have a way of balancing out in the end.
Yup they’ll be shunned outside of MAGAland. And hopefully when Dems take back the WH in 2028, they’ll reoffend and get thrown into the slammer again. They can’t pled ignorance the next time
 
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Next time, the Capitol Police should take a page out of The Untouchables: "They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue."
 

VRAMdemon

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VRAMdemon

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After this betrayal, I think the Capitol Police should all walk. See how that works out.

The Capitol and DC cops who were harmed on 1/6/21 will be redefined as evil opponents of God’s Chosen, Donald Trump. 95% or more of law enforcement people will continue to endorse him and think of him as their leader.

The FOP may well be the most stupid and twisted union in the nation
 
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pcgeek11

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What are your thoughts on Trump's blanket pardon of J6 insurrectionists?

Those pardons were for specific charged crimes on a specific date. Not blanket pardon.

I am not a big fan of those either. IMO as I have stated before is that anyone that entered the building and / or damaged property or attacked any person should be charged and held accountable to the maximum.

Anyone that was just present on the grounds and did not participate should be left alone. Note also that there are many that were charged and jailed for just being present in the area. They should be released and their record cleared.
 

nickqt

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Fascist enabling dog fucker is OK with pardoning violent felons.

Blanket pardons for people who might be political targets? NOT OK.

Dog fuckers gonna fuck dogs.
 
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nakedfrog

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Those pardons were for specific charged crimes on a specific date. Not blanket pardon.
Is that so?
(b) grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021;
Can you point out the "specific charged crimes" set forth in the pardon?

 

[DHT]Osiris

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Those pardons were for specific charged crimes on a specific date. Not blanket pardon.
No, no, the pardons are pretty general. Note that pardons are usually necessarily general to avoid potential prosecution.
 

pcgeek11

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Is that so?

Can you point out the "specific charged crimes" set forth in the pardon?


Each person has a charge and or conviction, you need to reference that for the specifics. Did you not read what you posted where it stated:

"individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021".
 

VRAMdemon

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The Maga in this thread most likely believe the conspiracy that Fauci’s involvement in an alleged coverup related to the Covid’s origins. Maga Republicans in Congress (actually all Republicans seem to be Maga now)have alleged that Fauci was involved in suppressing the theory that a lab accident in Wuhan, China, was responsible for the Covid-19 pandemic. Fauci has endorsed the theory that the disease came from an infected animal and repeatedly pushed back on allegations of the lab leak and that he was involved in some fucking unsubstantiated coverup. They also say baselessly he had financial interests in vaccine development and that he was complicit in the "creation" of Covid in a Chinese laboratory. All bullshit

They have had years to bring something to charge him with and never have/did. They still fucking think Fauci is guilty of "crimes against humanity" lol! Now, Fauci and his family live in fear of perpetual retribution. Fauci and his family still receive death threats, and he/they have protective security, most likely for the rest of their lives, for only doing his job and disagreeing with Trump and his frothing sycophants.
 
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IronWing

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Is that so?

Can you point out the "specific charged crimes" set forth in the pardon?

I think Trump just pardoned every single criminal that committed a crime on Jan 6, 2021. The language is vague enough to support anyone, anywhere in the U.S. to argue that they are covered.
 

pcgeek11

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I think Trump just pardoned every single criminal that committed a crime on Jan 6, 2021. The language is vague enough to support anyone, anywhere in the U.S. to argue that they are covered.

(b) grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021;
 
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