Trump praises Saddam Hussein's approach to "terrorists", sez Attn Gen took bribe

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Lifer
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Is the FBI going to investigate Trump's bribery of Florida attorney general?
Seems like if top law enforcement officer in a state is corrupt, the feds should step in.
 
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If only people were so up in arms when our current president tossed out due process rights when killing a US citizen that was labeled a terrorist.

Saddam executed everyone without due process. Not just terrorists. The fact some might have been terrorists pales in comparison to the number of women, children and just objectors who were slaughtered over the decades. The man used chemical weapons against his own citizens as a method for dealing with what he viewed as terrorists.
 

fskimospy

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If only people were so up in arms when our current president tossed out due process rights when killing a US citizen that was labeled a terrorist.

I think plenty of people were up in arms about that. I know I was.

That being said, drone strikes on US citizens has been used as a last resort to the best of my knowledge. In this case Trump is saying that ignoring constitutional protections is the preferred method, not the exception. Much, much more dangerous.
 

Genx87

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Saddam executed everyone without due process. Not just terrorists. The fact some might have been terrorists pales in comparison to the number of women, children and just objectors who were slaughtered over the decades. The man used chemical weapons against his own citizens as a method for dealing with what he viewed as terrorists.

Have you not been paying attention to our drone war?

Anyways the point isn't the quantity. It is the precedent has been set for whack jobs like Trump to kill US citizens without trial.
 

Genx87

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I think plenty of people were up in arms about that. I know I was.

That being said, drone strikes on US citizens has been used as a last resort to the best of my knowledge. In this case Trump is saying that ignoring constitutional protections is the preferred method, not the exception. Much, much more dangerous.

Well of course he wants to use this more than his predecessor. What is the next step in the process? Would had been nice if the first step of creating legal framework and actually carrying it out was never taken.
 

Brian Stirling

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How is he technically correct?


Saddam, like many of his ilk, was a strongman that did not tolerate anyone that could be a threat to him. He was brutal in this way, but that kept Al Qaeda and others at bay. He ruled with force and tens of thousands died during his 24 year reign. In half that time something over a quarter million people have died as a result of our insanely stupid actions. By comparison with Bush/Cheney Saddam was benign...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/opinions/trump-comments-on-saddam-opinion-bergen/index.html


Brian
 

agent00f

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In fairness to Trump, and I say this with displeasure, the fact is that the Middle East has only known strongmen and in the absence of a strongman another strongman will arise. We kill Saddam and the next thing you know ISIS is running the show. We support the overthrow of Qaddafi and the power vacuum is filled by someone as bad or worse.

If it were possible, and it is not, I'd build a wall around the region and let them end there own miserable existence. So long as they kept there beheadings to themselves I'd reluctantly say goodbye and good riddance...


Brian

In fairness to the Middle East, the west keeps toppling their better governments for self-interested ends. Unfortunately there's no omnipotent shopkeep to enforce a global you-break-you-buy policy.
 

Sonikku

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In fairness to Trump, and I say this with displeasure, the fact is that the Middle East has only known strongmen and in the absence of a strongman another strongman will arise. We kill Saddam and the next thing you know ISIS is running the show. We support the overthrow of Qaddafi and the power vacuum is filled by someone as bad or worse.

Then there's that whole deal with replacing Iran's democratically elected leader with a dictatorship.

You know sometimes I dare wonder if America would be safer if we just stayed out of the middle east altogether.
 

Jhhnn

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I think plenty of people were up in arms about that. I know I was.

That being said, drone strikes on US citizens has been used as a last resort to the best of my knowledge. In this case Trump is saying that ignoring constitutional protections is the preferred method, not the exception. Much, much more dangerous.

You're right about Trump, wrong about the rest. American citizens abroad who refuse jurisdiction of the United States are not subject to our laws any more than any other terrorist suspect. They're subject only to the law of the country they're in like anybody else. It's not like the Yemeni govt extended protection of the law to those engaged in active revolt against it, either. They'd have killed the guy themselves had he refused surrender.
 

FrankRamiro

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Uhm, praising methods of repressing terrorism that are blatantly unconstitutional is pretty gross, no?

Also, Obama did not remove our troops from Iraq. That was due to an agreement that the Bush administration signed that Iraq would not budge on. Unless you wanted us to reoccupy Iraq that is.

What i hate most is the politicians and their supporters that keep getting excuses for things that most of the world condemned,that was the war in Iraq.and now in Syria,most of the politicians and people that supported these wars are clowns and suckers of the American regime,anybody that defends this practices of dealing with the meddle east just through the force of the guns and bombs are the worst kind of human race,also a bunch of cowards that only go after the weak countries like Iraq and Syria and not go after China,Russia,Iran,North Korea that are 100 times worse than Iraq and Syria,f****politicians Cowards and those that support them.
 

FrankRamiro

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Saddam, like many of his ilk, was a strongman that did not tolerate anyone that could be a threat to him. He was brutal in this way, but that kept Al Qaeda and others at bay. He ruled with force and tens of thousands died during his 24 year reign. In half that time something over a quarter million people have died as a result of our insanely stupid actions. By comparison with Bush/Cheney Saddam was benign...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/opinions/trump-comments-on-saddam-opinion-bergen/index.html


Brian

You thing Bush /Obama cares about the democracy for the people in the middle east? democracy my ass, what they cared was about controlling the OIL,OIL,OIL. clowns,liers.
 
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