Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

[Indus]

Off by 1-2 inches at 140 yards. That was pretty good all things considered.

We got lucky..

Of all the Republicans.. Trump is the easiest to beat if Biden puts in a real shift from here on in!

I would be very surprised if the USSS allowed Trump to speak at a rally without some form of kevlar vest to provide some protection against such an event.

Kevlar won't do jack shit against a 7.62 NATO at 140m especially all if it's protecting is a belly full of orange soda!

 

[dank69]

So you think that half of the country, who support Trump, are all evil? I admit I dont understand how one could support him, but I am not willing to write off half of the country, including close members of my family, as "evil:.

Personally I'd modify it to any Republican, not just Trump. And I wouldn't say it's necessarily evil, often it's just ignorance. But ignorance is no excuse when you're demonstrably making the world a worse place for everyone. And they fight really fucking hard to maintain that ignorance on top of it.

 

[kage69]

Oh no, you misunderstood the post. I wasn't condemning Biden's call to put trump in the bullseye just pointing it out. But I do seem to remember outrage from your side when Palin used the same "figure of speech".

Like I said, I'll just sit back and be entertained by violence and total destruction of the country. I'm fully on board with the "everyone who doesn't agree with me is the enemy and deserves to die"! That sentiment is strong on sites like this and has been for years. Let the good times roll!

No you were, there's no need to try and puss out now. It puts you in a 'poor light' you know.

I still don't approve but having never been a registered Democrat what does it matter? Palin and others were far more course with it, and included posters with actual cross hairs put over the faces of political opponents. You'd know this if you had a shred of honesty, but yes, you definitely seem more focused on being entertained than not posting like a douchebag. No one sees you as an enemy, you're just a low T troll, please note the distinction.

Maybe you should roulez le bon temps elsewhere, someplace your particular brand of limp apathy and victim mentality could be appreciated. The 'magat emerging from under a rock' schtick generally doesn't work out here. Did you see brandonbullshit emerge and figure the migration was on or something?

 

[K1052]

Biden so far deploying the R playbook for when a mass shooting happens. Being present, condemning violence but saying nothing of great substance.

No need to reinvent the wheel.

 

[WilliamM2]

So you think that half of the country, who support Trump, are all evil? I admit I dont understand how one could support him, but I am not willing to write off half of the country, including close members of my family, as "evil:.

Trump is evil. But in my experience, his supporters don't believe all the charges against him. That makes them stupid, not evil.

But according to Mr.Squished, you are a Trump supporter if you disagree with any of his unhinged thoughts and beliefs. And the comparisons to Hitler...dude needs to get a grip on reality.

 

[Perknose]

Nah, I'm over it. This is the state of American politics, with no change in sight. You can cheer when your side lowers the bar. The right can cheer the tit for tat when they lower it even further. I'll just sit here, enjoy my beer, and watch the collapse.

It should get interesting soon. The media has already begun to turn on Biden. This could be a sign that powers in control want him gone as well. If he refuses to go quietly, he'll be in the bullseye next and they can conveniently blame it on a pissed off righty.

Fun times!

You have a very active imagination.

 

[MrSquished]

So you think that half of the country, who support Trump, are all evil? I admit I dont understand how one could support him, but I am not willing to write off half of the country, including close members of my family, as "evil:.

I don't think half the country supports Trump, but yes, if you support Trump and the Trump party after these past 8 years, at your core you are evil. I don't care what the reason is - whether it's ignorance or just simply being rotten, they are evil.

Look at any major horrific recent historical event. Take any authoritarian fascist or communist or whatever regime that came to power based in the exact same way Trump did, and is now trying to again, they cheered these evil folks on based upon that hatred, and then horrific evil shit happened, and many of them were part of literally enforcing and performing evil acts. They were all complicit. How could all the evil in our history have happened without people supporting that evil? It couldn't have. So what do we categorize these people as? I think they are a part of it, they can't not be. Without them, no Trump, no Hitler, no Mussolini, no Mao, no Stalin. The time for them to have redeemed themselves is long past us.

Again look at history, these people also had families, they were your local pharmacist or carpenter, or the KKK leader lynching black people was a coach for a kids sports team, they were nice to their dogs, etc... That's not what makes a person good when they support and enable total evil happening.

I will always remember this date I went on with this woman last year. We talked politics. Her mom is in TX and she is a vociferous evangelical Trumpie, very hardcore and posts all the batshit insanery stuff a typical Trumper does - which are all enabling and encouraging evil. She looked at me and said, I am coming to terms that my mother is a Nazi, it's been very difficult.

Yes it is difficult, but it's true, and if people don't realize this, evil can't be stopped.

 

[ondma]

Personally I'd modify it to any Republican, not just Trump. And I wouldn't say it's necessarily evil, often it's just ignorance. But ignorance is no excuse when you're demonstrably making the world a worse place for everyone. And they fight really fucking hard to maintain that ignorance on top of it.

It is not really ignorance, but just emotional reasoning or different belief systems. Not trying to "both sides" this, but if one asked a large swath of Reps, or any Trump supporter, they would believe just as strongly that the Democrats are "making the world a worse place". Just trying to point out that it is not really so simple as "all Reps are bad/evil/stupid/racists" or whatever.

 

[Indus]

You have a very active imagination.

What really annoys me is even I with my active imagination would round up everyone that threatened Biden after this and throw em in Gitmo but Biden's too "soft"!

 

[K1052]

And the comparisons to Hitler...dude needs to get a grip on reality.

Is Trump basically Hitler? No. That would require some sort of general belief structure, ethos, or aim that wasn't just pure uncut narcissism. There is ultimately no goal other than himself and that's just run of the mill authoritarian despot stuff.

However not Hitler but #1 with people who love Hitler is potentially an issue people might want to consider.

 

[Indus]

Biden so far deploying the R playbook for when a mass shooting happens. Being present, condemning violence but saying nothing of great substance.

No need to reinvent the wheel.

If for any reason there's a backlash to gun rights after this from the right.. could be an opportunity for dems!

I mean after all Trump took away Bump Stocks!

 

[ch33zw1z]

If for any reason there's a backlash to gun rights after this from the right.. could be an opportunity for dems!

lol the optimism. Like R’s are suddenly gonna give up on a 2A solution they’re always on about? Hardly.

 

[eelw]

If for any reason there's a backlash to gun rights after this from the right.. could be an opportunity for dems!

I mean after all Trump took away Bump Stocks!

Indeed. If the gun was secured properly, this wouldn’t have happened

 

[MrSquished]

It is not really ignorance, but just emotional reasoning or different belief systems. Not trying to "both sides" this, but if one asked a large swath of Reps, or any Trump supporter, they would believe just as strongly that the Democrats are "making the world a worse place". Just trying to point out that it is not really so simple as "all Reps are bad/evil/stupid/racists" or whatever.

This is just silly rationalizing.

So let's support racism, sexism, bigotry, putting immigrants into concentration camps, turning women and homosexuals and certain minorities into second class citizens, supporting a police and prison state for the poor, and on and on and on is now equivalent to let's make Medicare a public option and fund more mass transit, pollute less, and train cops better?

Yeah man, be betterer. It really is that damn simple.

 

[hal2kilo]

I noticed after all the talking heads have gone through most of the events, that maybe the local police are to blame since there are only so many SS personnel. How about the municipalities his organization has stiffed in the past on paying for security. Maybe they aren't so motivated to go the extra mile like they would normally be.

 

[Perknose]

It's quite ironic, we've had more of an outpouring of sympathy from Democrats for Trump than we have had for slaughtered Palestinian civilians and children. What a world we live in.

40,000 dead is a statistic. One is a tragedy. And, as Tip O'Neill said, all politics are local.

 

[dank69]

It is not really ignorance, but just emotional reasoning or different belief systems. Not trying to "both sides" this, but if one asked a large swath of Reps, or any Trump supporter, they would believe just as strongly that the Democrats are "making the world a worse place". Just trying to point out that it is not really so simple as "all Reps are bad/evil/stupid/racists" or whatever.

Just because they believe it doesn't make them right. Just because I believe it doesn't make me right. All their evidence is lies while all mine is peer reviewed. Apply what you said to Allies and Nazis in the 30s/40s. It really is that simple.

 

[Indus]

This is just silly rationalizing.

So let's support racism, sexism, bigotry, putting immigrants into concentration camps, turning women and homosexuals and certain minorities into second class citizens, supporting a police and prison state for the poor, and on and on and on is now equivalent to let's make Medicare a public option and fund more mass transit and train cops better?

Yeah man, be betterer.

fuck that, be best!

and who needs rationalizing?

 

[Moonbeam]

I noticed after all the talking heads have gone through most of the events, that maybe the local police are to blame since there are only so many SS personnel. How about the municipalities his organization has stiffed in the past on paying for security. Maybe they aren't so motivated to go the extra mile like they would normally be.

Gosh, wouldn't that be ironic.

 

[eelw]

Melania’s comment, Baron and my life could have changed in a instant

Lol it would have been for the better

And Ivanka sighting!!!

 

[Perknose]

A lot of whys might make one think this was a coordinated effort coming days after Biden call for Trump to be put in the bullseye. Why was there a big old flag by Trump to be used as a wind speed/direction indicator? Why were short, female SS agents assign to protect a 6'4" male leaving his head exposed? Why did they take Trump to the side of the car that faces the crowd (allowing opportunity for follow up shots)? Why did the snipers on the roof behind Trump not get authorization to shoot when they had clearly seen the shooter? Why... Nah, just another coincidence.

You ever been in combat or any civilian active shooter situation, sport? Murphy's Law.

 

[Jaskalas]

So you think that half of the country, who support Trump, are all evil? I admit I dont understand how one could support him, but I am not willing to write off half of the country, including close members of my family, as "evil:.

My own local MAGA wanted a full blown military coup to keep Trump installed after 2020.
What do we call those who want their own people massacred?

 

[eelw]

My own local MAGA wanted a full blown military coup to keep Trump installed after 2020.
What do we call those who want their own people massacred?

Now what if MAGAtards do actually attempt revenge. How far will Biden be forced to push back? Imagine if he has to declare a state of emergency for the entire nation. Lol delay the election!!!

 

[kage69]

It is not really ignorance, but just emotional reasoning or different belief systems. Not trying to "both sides" this, but if one asked a large swath of Reps, or any Trump supporter, they would believe just as strongly that the Democrats are "making the world a worse place". Just trying to point out that it is not really so simple as "all Reps are bad/evil/stupid/racists" or whatever.

Btw, earlier you referred to the repugs as half of America. Please, stop indulging them with this falsehood. Republicans account for about 32% of registered voters, not 50% of all 333.3 million Americans.

 

[Moonbeam]

It is not really ignorance, but just emotional reasoning or different belief systems. Not trying to "both sides" this, but if one asked a large swath of Reps, or any Trump supporter, they would believe just as strongly that the Democrats are "making the world a worse place". Just trying to point out that it is not really so simple as "all Reps are bad/evil/stupid/racists" or whatever.

You are correct. But let me ask you a question. Do you believe that believers believe that what they believe is goo because that where the rub lies in my opinion.

Notice posts like dank69's that criticize our position. What you are saying is true in my opinion because every bigot believes his world view is right whereas in fact bigotry is the inculcation of notions into the heads of children that forces them to believe that what is actually evil is good. The implication here is that truth of what the good is depends on a lack of believe. Only those who are humanly real and not programmed are capable of seeing which further means that only those who can see beyond the duality of good and evil and the delusional thinking it creates really know anything.

What is when thought ends in realization that it is thought itself that creates our prison?