I wasn't arguing any points other than the fact that he is not a convicted felon or convicted rapist. Why are you trying to move the goalpost?It should be noted though that what WAS adjudicated is that referring to Trump as a rapist in a colloquial sense is correct.
Pedantic Pete has entered the forumI wasn't arguing any points other than the fact that he is not a convicted felon or convicted rapist. Why are you trying to move the goalpost?
Referring to Trump as a "convicted felon" or "convicted rapist" is not accurate and you know it. Stick to the facts and leave the sensationalism for drooling masses.
You're playing semantics games and missed the point.I wasn't arguing any points other than the fact that he is not a convicted felon or convicted rapist. Why are you trying to move the goalpost?
Referring to Trump as a "convicted felon" or "convicted rapist" is not accurate and you know it. Stick to the facts and leave the sensationalism for drooling masses.
I totally agree, if possible, he would try to manipulate the election again. And, he has a VP in Vance who would not stand in his way, as well as possibly both houses of congress and some local and state election officials that would support him.
HOWEVER, there is one hopeful caveat. It is very clearly stated in the 22nd amendment that Trump would not be eligible to run again in 2028. So he would have have to find some mechanism to get around this. Granted, he has the Supreme Court in his pocket, but I am not sure they would go so far as to overturn a rule specifically and clearly stated in the Constitution. It is also very unlikely that enough states would ratify a new constitutional amendment to overturn the 22nd. So the only way I see that he could stay in power is to claim some national emergency and cancel or postpone the election. Even in our crazy political climate, I am not sure that would fly.
I think the more realistic danger is that he would manipulate the election process to install a handpicked successor (Vance on one of his kids??) to let Trump continue to run the country from behind the scenes.
I didn't miss the point, you're trying to change it.You're playing semantics games and missed the point.
Just as how legally Trump was not convicted of rape a court of law found it perfectly acceptable to refer to him as a rapist. Similarly, Trump was found guilty of over 30 felonies by a jury of his peers and that's commonly understood as being a convicted felon. If you don't like it, take it up with the courts.
At that point they would control the Congress, the army, and federal law enforcement. I imagine they would just say 'DEEP STATE' and ignore any contrary rulings.Vance would presumably run in 2028 and as the VP could decide not to accept the EVs if they are not in his favor in a bid to have the house appoint him president. Assuming the courts went along with this.
At that point they would control the Congress, the army, and federal law enforcement. I imagine they would just say 'DEEP STATE' and ignore any contrary rulings.
You did in fact miss the point. It is perfectly acceptable to refer to him as a convicted felon in this context as that is how the word is commonly understood.I didn't miss the point, you're trying to change it.
Not an inside job, unintended consequences of a nutty liberal Gun culture.
How about this? Vance runs in 2028 with Trump as VP. Vance gets Congress to overturn the Electoral College and becomes President. Vance dies in a mysterious accident shortly after becoming President. Now Trump is President again, and the Supreme Court rules it is legitimate because Trump wasn'tVance would presumably run in 2028 and as the VP could decide not to accept the EVs if they are not in his favor in a bid to have the house appoint him president. Assuming the courts went along with this.
I mean at that point we are in ‘fuck you’ territory so the reasoning wouldn’t seem to matter much.How about this? Vance runs in 2028 with Trump as VP. Vance gets Congress to overturn the Electoral College and becomes President. Vance dies in a mysterious accident shortly after becoming President. Now Trump is President again, and the Supreme Court rules it is legitimate because Trump wasn't
"elected" to a third term.
I still have dont know how to interpret this. There are only really 3 possible scenarios:Not an inside job, unintended consequences of a nutty liberal Gun culture.
So we should make it a bimonthly event? Maybe have a lottery to pick who gets to shoot!Stock market roars in response to Trump being shot! Good Republicans are good for business!
I still have dont know how to interpret this. There are only really 3 possible scenarios:
1: An inside job by the Democrats. The Secret Service has to be in on it. And if it was an inside job, couldn't they at least have found somebody who was a good shot?
2: An inside job by Trump. Again, Trump would have to have somehow coerced the Secret Service to go along with the scheme and would also have to have agreed to have a bullet shot millimeters away from his head from over 100 yards. (unless the injury was faked, like pro wresting, hmmm isn't Trump a fan?)
3: Either an all time greatest brain fart by the USSS or they are just woefully incompetent and the shooter was just another mixed up kid with too easy access to a gun.
Considering the strange reaction of the crowd, and the USSS allowing Trump to stand up and gesture while leaving the stage, none of these really make sense. Using the simplest of possible choices, though, I have to go with #3, but there are still a lot of things that dont make sense.
I suppose you could say it started 30 years ago, but it really accelerated exponentially with Trump's presidency, the MAGA movement, Covid, the election denial, and the rise of social media.This is what disgusts me, we've spent the last 30 years turning America into the great land of any fucking conspiracy is possible. Which is what has led us to this fine moment where Trump may be President again because America has been driven insane by propagandists for the sake of money.
Somewhere the coordination between the USSS and the local PD broke down and shit was missed allowing a kid to climb on a roof and take a shot.
I suppose you could say it started 30 years ago, but it really accelerated exponentially with Trump's presidency, the MAGA movement, Covid, the election denial, and the rise of social media.
Trump didn't leave until Shooter was confirmed down.I still have dont know how to interpret this. There are only really 3 possible scenarios:
1: An inside job by the Democrats. The Secret Service has to be in on it. And if it was an inside job, couldn't they at least have found somebody who was a good shot?
2: An inside job by Trump. Again, Trump would have to have somehow coerced the Secret Service to go along with the scheme and would also have to have agreed to have a bullet shot millimeters away from his head from over 100 yards. (unless the injury was faked, like pro wresting, hmmm isn't Trump a fan?)
3: Either an all time greatest brain fart by the USSS or they are just woefully incompetent and the shooter was just another mixed up kid with too easy access to a gun.
Considering the strange reaction of the crowd, and the USSS allowing Trump to stand up and gesture while leaving the stage, none of these really make sense. Using the simplest of possible choices, though, I have to go with #3, but there are still a lot of things that dont make sense.
That was just the payoff, decades of work went into that.I suppose you could say it started 30 years ago, but it really accelerated exponentially with Trump's presidency, the MAGA movement, Covid, the election denial, and the rise of social media.
This is what disgusts me, we've spent the last 30 years turning America into the great land of any fucking conspiracy is possible. Which is what has led us to this fine moment where Trump may be President again because America has been driven insane by propagandists for the sake of money.
Somewhere the coordination between the USSS and the local PD broke down and shit was missed allowing a kid to climb on a roof and take a shot.
"Conservative incel, son of Trump supporter, attempts assassination" certainly doesn't have the ring to it that the GQP wants.
For all we know, the son was just your bog standard, young wannabe mass shooter. Could just be that the cop investigating the roof surprised him, he then felt rushed, missed his shots, and got blown away by USSS for his troubles."Conservative incel, son of Trump supporter, attempts assassination" certainly doesn't have the ring to it that the GQP wants.
I wasn't arguing any points other than the fact that he is not a convicted felon or convicted rapist. Why are you trying to move the goalpost?
Referring to Trump as a "convicted felon" or "convicted rapist" is not accurate and you know it. Stick to the facts and leave the sensationalism for drooling masses.
@RY62 likes his politicians to get away with rape. To bad about the losing the civil suit(s). Hopefully RY will ponied up and helped Trump pay his fines.It should be noted though that what WAS adjudicated is that referring to Trump as a rapist in a colloquial sense is correct.