Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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ch33zw1z

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Republicans do not hold exclusive rights to nutters.
Not to say this figure is accurate, but it's still derived from something.

Fox: 1 in 3 Democrats believe Trump faked assassination attempt.


I’m not sure this even qualifies as a nutter at this point. It’s the problem you run into when a candidate and admin is so comfortable with blatantly lying to the general public over and over and over again. You just can’t trust anything Trump or people around him say or do.
 

ch33zw1z

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For all those pants shitters cuz Biden said the word “target”

 

pmv

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Does a 2cm missing chunk grow back? Whatever happened to Evander Holyfield's ear? 🤔

Saw a photo somewhere (where Trump had replaced that large white bandage with a smaller band-aid) that didn't seem to support the claim that it was a "2cm" wound.

The whole thing is still very unclear. He definitely suffered some sort of injury to his ear, because the bleeding was clearly visible.
 

ch33zw1z

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Saw a photo somewhere (where Trump had replaced that large white bandage with a smaller band-aid) that didn't seem to support the claim that it was a "2cm" wound.

The whole thing is still very unclear. He definitely suffered some sort of injury to his ear, because the bleeding was clearly visible.

The unclear topic is the point. It leaves questions that people want answered, and news outlets will get those clicks far longer and Trump just keeps people talking about something other than his shittiness and the terrible policies that he supports while trying to destroy out democracy. The burn it down crowd is still a big piece of the GOP.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Do we know that his ear was struck by a bullet for certain? When he reached for his ear. That could have been a reaction of hearing or feeling the wind and sound of a bullet flying by at close range but not necessarily striking him. The media released a still shot showing a flying bullet over his head by a couple of feet and behind him a bit.

When he went to the ground, the SS agents could have rolled up on his ear or it could have hit something on the ground tearing open a wound. I think a .556 round that close to his cranium would have done much more damage than a superficial wound. Old people have old persons skin. That means anything that touches their skin cuts it like butter.
A .223 round (not to be pedantic but it was a .223) doesn't have enough mass to cause the kind of proximal damage you're thinking, that's relegated to very large arms like .50 BMG and shit.

A .223 would just shred through an ear, take a chunk out, and keep on going. It would be a phenomenally lucky hit though.
 
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Greenman

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No. You said it was just a nick and Sanjay was overreacting

Now you say you dont know the severity of the nick

So what is it.

Come on.

Let me guess you posted without thinking


Again
I didn't understand that this was some weird personal thing. You feel the need to best me in a contest of wits over a grammatical term. I'm flattered that it's so important to you, but you'll have to go elsewhere for the gratification you seek, as I'm not going to enter into an argument about the precise definition of a nick.
 

Puffnstuff

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Somehow his ear was injured, nothing penetrated his brain and he is still alive and inspiring the latest fashion trend of a diaper on your ear. Focus on important shit. Like @gothuevos finally has a secondary market for his massive diaper collection.
The RNC featured some of the ear flag fashion statements worn by his faithful followers. They must have been out of the f your feels t-shirts.
 

Greenman

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Saw a photo somewhere (where Trump had replaced that large white bandage with a smaller band-aid) that didn't seem to support the claim that it was a "2cm" wound.

The whole thing is still very unclear. He definitely suffered some sort of injury to his ear, because the bleeding was clearly visible.
I don't understand why it matters. It wasn't a serious injury by any definition. The serious part is that it happened half an inch from his skull.
 
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pmv

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I don't understand why it matters. It wasn't a serious injury by any definition. The serious part is that it happened half an inch from his skull.

Well, what I'm curious about is whether a bullet passed that close to his skull, or if the ear injury was a result of something other than the bullet.

The event was serious, insofar as a shooter got that close to Trump, but there's also the more "metaphysical" question of whether or not Trump missed death by as little as an inch.
 

Greenman

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Well, what I'm curious about is whether a bullet passed that close to his skull, or if the ear injury was a result of something other than the bullet.

The event was serious, insofar as a shooter got that close to Trump, but there's also the more "metaphysical" question of whether or not Trump missed death by as little as an inch.
If it was an inch or a foot, does it really matter that much? It seems clear that Trump was the target, though I admit that's speculation and the only evidence is that that seems to be the direction the bullets were headed.
 

pmv

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If it was an inch or a foot, does it really matter that much? It seems clear that Trump was the target, though I admit that's speculation and the only evidence is that that seems to be the direction the bullets were headed.

I wouldn't say it matters much in terms of practical consequences. Just in terms of one's emotional response (to an event that might prove to be a major political turning point).

Clearly Trump was the target, though we still have little idea why. Seems quite possible the shooter would have gone after whatever prominant figure happened to be available as a target.
 

ch33zw1z

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I wouldn't say it matters much in terms of practical consequences. Just in terms of one's emotional response (to an event that might prove to be a major political turning point).

Clearly Trump was the target, though we still have little idea why. Seems quite possible the shooter would have gone after whatever prominant figure happened to be available as a target.

It matter in terms of transparency, from a group of people that operate daily under the motto of “alt-facts”
 
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Greenman

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I wouldn't say it matters much in terms of practical consequences. Just in terms of one's emotional response (to an event that might prove to be a major political turning point).

Clearly Trump was the target, though we still have little idea why. Seems quite possible the shooter would have gone after whatever prominant figure happened to be available as a target.
Fair enough. It appears that it's made a measurable difference in poles, but I doubt that's anything more than a short term bump. My wild ass guess is that Trump was the only target the shooter was interested in.

Personally, I think the (s/) absolutely astonishing discovery (s/) that Biden isn't mentally competent is having a far greater effect than Trump getting winged.
 

fskimospy

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Fair enough. It appears that it's made a measurable difference in poles, but I doubt that's anything more than a short term bump. My wild ass guess is that Trump was the only target the shooter was interested in.
The shooter had schedules saved for Trump and Biden. While we don’t know for sure and may never know the most likely answer is they were both targets, it’s just that Trump showed up first.
Personally, I think the (s/) absolutely astonishing discovery (s/) that Biden isn't mentally competent is having a far greater effect than Trump getting winged.
And to think it only took you about half a decade of wrongly saying the same thing before it came true!

It’s sort of funny, for the last five years it’s been like:

Conservatives in 2020 - Biden’s brain is mush, he can’t think!

(Biden easily outsmarts them)

Conservatives in 2022 - I mean it this time!

(Biden easily outsmarts them again)

Conservatives in 2024 - See?!? I was right all along!

I mean if nothing else how is this anything other than total humiliation for you guys? The guy with no brain beat you over and over again.
 

HomerJS

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Fair enough. It appears that it's made a measurable difference in poles, but I doubt that's anything more than a short term bump. My wild ass guess is that Trump was the only target the shooter was interested in.

Personally, I think the (s/) absolutely astonishing discovery (s/) that Biden isn't mentally competent is having a far greater effect than Trump getting winged.
Why are you still talking about this? To quote Trump after a school shooting where kids and teachers were killed, "we have to move on"
 
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Greenman

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Why are you still talking about this? To quote Trump after a school shooting where kids and teachers were killed, "we have to move on"
I was engaged in a conversation with pmv. You should have read the statement I quoted before responding. That way you would understand what was being discussed.
 
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Greenman

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The shooter had schedules saved for Trump and Biden. While we don’t know for sure and may never know the most likely answer is they were both targets, it’s just that Trump showed up first.

And to think it only took you about half a decade of wrongly saying the same thing before it came true!

It’s sort of funny, for the last five years it’s been like:

Conservatives in 2020 - Biden’s brain is mush, he can’t think!

(Biden easily outsmarts them)

Conservatives in 2022 - I mean it this time!

(Biden easily outsmarts them again)

Conservatives in 2024 - See?!? I was right all along!

I mean if nothing else how is this anything other than total humiliation for you guys? The guy with no brain beat you over and over again.
That you chose to ignore the evidence doesn't change my understanding of the situation. If it makes you happy to believe that Biden suffered a rapid decline over a few weeks, that's fine with me. Though it would indicate that his mental health deteriorating very rapidly. I don't see how it changes anything at this point. Joe isn't doing well, everyone on the planet knows it, roughly half the country doesn't care. How that all plays out will be decided by the states come November.
 
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fskimospy

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That you chose to ignore the evidence doesn't change my understanding of the situation. If it makes you happy to believe that Biden suffered a rapid decline over a few weeks, that's fine with me. Though it would indicate that his mental health deteriorating very rapidly. I don't see how it changes anything at this point. Joe isn't doing well, everyone on the planet knows it, roughly half the country doesn't care. How that all plays out will be decided by the states come November.
You realize you are ignoring the evidence, right? Again, people point to Biden’s debate performance here as evidence of his decline but he wiped the floor with Trump at a time you were already saying his brain was mush!

It’s okay to admit you were wrong.
 

fskimospy

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lol you don’t say? Greenie, the one that believes the orange monkey speaks in complete sentences. The one that still insists they were unarmed. The one that refuses to accept the facts unless there’s a verdict by a jury.
The guy who doggedly insists Trump didn’t attempt a coup despite admitting Trump tried to get Pence to act illegally to keep him in power, the dictionary definition of a coup.

And to be clear he is perfectly comfortable with offering opinions about guilt or innocence without a verdict. He did it with Clinton. The goal here is to avoid admitting he wants to vote for a felon.
 
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pcgeek11

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Does a 2cm missing chunk grow back? Whatever happened to Evander Holyfield's ear? 🤔

As long as the cartilage is still there it will fill back in with skin. I had a skin cancer removed by MOHS Surgery and they removed a circular area about the size of a dime down to the cartilage and left it open. I had to keep it covered with Vaseline and bandaged. The skin grew back over the area, but it is still shows a hollow looking area. If he is missing a chunk out of the edge they can repair it with surgery.
 

pmv

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That you chose to ignore the evidence doesn't change my understanding of the situation. If it makes you happy to believe that Biden suffered a rapid decline over a few weeks, that's fine with me. Though it would indicate that his mental health deteriorating very rapidly. I don't see how it changes anything at this point. Joe isn't doing well, everyone on the planet knows it, roughly half the country doesn't care. How that all plays out will be decided by the states come November.

Don't know about "a few weeks", Biden seems to have suffered a significant decline over the last few years. I don't think that's unusual with advancing age.

Only recently learned that he previously suffered aneurysms. Didn't know that till just reading about him, I haven't followed his career, though I remember when he was accused of plagiarizing Neil Kinnock of all people - just remember everyone being surprised that anyone would bother to plagiarize Kinnock...reading up on his career now, I see that he started off by attributing the quote, then slipped into neglecting to mention that he was quoting someone else, which I guess makes more sense.

I believe past neurological issues can catch up with you rapidly when you get old and need that reserve capacity (I fully expect that to happen to me when I get old - don't make me President...of anything).

He's done the right thing now, anyway. He deserves credit for that - putting country before personal ego, even if it took him a while to do what was necessary. No way Trump would ever do that, no matter how much he deteriorated.
 
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