Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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zinfamous

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Yup, that's the strongest reason by far to dismiss conspiracy theories about the thing being a set-up. From everything we know of him, would Trump ever agree to having someone shoot at him, yet alone a shot close enough to wing him in the ear? To make such a shot deliberately without risking actually killing the guy would surely require superlative marksmanship.

Just have to face the fact that Trump is uncannily lucky. Those that way inclined can take that as evidence that God is on his side (I'm more inclined to believe it was the other guy intervening).

how about this: Trump wasn't in on the conspiracy, but Bannon, Miller, Trump's campaign manager and for sure the Heritage foundation were in on it. What's the worst that could happen, Trump get's "martyred?" Probably help out their cause even more.
 

emperus

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He should probably just ask greenman or pcgeek, those guys know exactly what happened, having applied their non biased professional internet sleuth opinions after reviewing g the video.

Lol. Yeah, they need a full report on it. And Trump should have also have his doctor release the medical report.
 

ch33zw1z

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how about this: Trump wasn't in on the conspiracy, but Bannon, Miller, Trump's campaign manager and for sure the Heritage foundation were in on it. What's the worst that could happen, Trump get's "martyred?" Probably help out their cause even more.

Sorry, no lizard people or space lazers, can't be true!
 

Fenixgoon

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how about this: Trump wasn't in on the conspiracy, but Bannon, Miller, Trump's campaign manager and for sure the Heritage foundation were in on it. What's the worst that could happen, Trump get's "martyred?" Probably help out their cause even more.
Honestly, that would probably be the most reasonable conspiracy theory out of all possibilities.
 

dank69

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Honestly, that would probably be the most reasonable conspiracy theory out of all possibilities.
Except you'd think they'd hire a capable assassin.

Miller wouldn't be in on it. That dude hasn't removed Trump's mushroom from his mouth for at least a decade.
 

pmv

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how about this: Trump wasn't in on the conspiracy, but Bannon, Miller, Trump's campaign manager and for sure the Heritage foundation were in on it. What's the worst that could happen, Trump get's "martyred?" Probably help out their cause even more.

Creative effort at saving the theory, but surely if that were the case they'd first have made sure they had a suitable back-up candidate ready to go in case it all went horribly wrong (or right)? So it would all have gone down _after_ JD Vance was in place.
Bumping off Trump with no obvious alternative on the scene would be a terrible plan, from their point-of-view.

Just have to face the fact that Trump has God on his side (plus God's a seriously nasty piece-of-work, as seen in his repeated interventions to save Adolf).
 
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ch33zw1z

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Creative effort at saving the theory, but surely if that were the case they'd first have made sure they had a suitable back-up candidate ready to go in case it all went horribly wrong (or right)? So it would all have gone down _after_ JD Vance was in place.
Bumping off Trump with no obvious alternative on the scene would be a terrible plan, from their point-of-view.

Just have to face the fact that Trump has God on his side (plus God's a seriously nasty piece-of-work, as seen in his repeated interventions to save Adolf).

I’m not sure an inside job would be to save the presidency, as opposed to triggering a war. The first thing we heard from trumpets around us was how the democrats were starting a war and coming for them. When it turned out some 18YO registered republican was the shooter, they quieted down right quick. But the itch is there, waiting to be scratched just enough.

If that didn’t happen and we made it to election time, no matter the GOP candidate, the loss will be claimed to be due to fraud, a win will be the most secure and clean election in human history. The candidate doesn’t matter anymore, this will be SOP for the GOP
 

APU_Fusion

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I’m not sure an inside job would be to save the presidency, as opposed to triggering a war. The first thing we heard from trumpets around us was how the democrats were starting a war and coming for them. When it turned out some 18YO registered republican was the shooter, they quieted down right quick. But the itch is there, waiting to be scratched just enough.

If that didn’t happen and we made it to election time, no matter the GOP candidate, the loss will be claimed to be due to fraud, a win will be the most secure and clean election in human history. The candidate doesn’t matter anymore, this will be SOP for the GOP
I will believe the hillbillies will come out in violence when I see it with my own eyes. Those intellectually crippled morons are almost all cowards with brown stained underwear. The first shot back at them and they will run in terror. The facade of tough republican is as real as trumps employment to Vietnam. They ain’t gonna do shit.
 

Jaskalas

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Sheesh, it's still not settled
FBI Director Christopher Wray: “With respect to former president Trump, there’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear.”
Shrapnel from what, does this guy even know what he is saying or alluding to?
 

Stokely

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Looked like there was blood on his ear before they tackled him.

Not that I give a single shit. There was a mentally ill gunman, they shot at him, the bullet missed, Trump got nicked. The end, it's over. There is no fucking conspiracy by either side. I swear people think the illuminati is behind Chipotle being out of brown rice.

There have been right wing shooters, left wing one, and ??? wing ones. They are mentally ill by definition, anyone that will go out in public to give their own life and take those of others is broken. Not to mention people change over time. At one point in my life I considered myself a Republican. The older I get, the more I move the other way, but ymmv.

When politicians actively encourage nutters to go do violence--and of course they try to do it through vague language for obvious reasons--that's what should be condemned. And guess which party does that, in particular one person.
 

HomerJS

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If Trump is shot again at another rally, please start a new thread. It will get lost in this one.
 

Paratus

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My theory hasn’t changed since the first photo was posted: he scraped his ear on the stage when the SS tackled him.
That’s not a bad one and does fit the available evidence. I was already 50/50 on whether it was actually the bullet that clipped him.


My own personal conspiracy theory on the shooting was the gun man was angry at his dad. Dad was a big Trump supporter so he gave money to the Dems for the attention when he was younger. Then decided to take a shot at him.
 

dank69

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That’s not a bad one and does fit the available evidence. I was already 50/50 on whether it was actually the bullet that clipped him.


My own personal conspiracy theory on the shooting was the gun man was angry at his dad. Dad was a big Trump supporter so he gave money to the Dems for the attention when he was younger. Then decided to take a shot at him.
I thought the donation was from another guy with a similar name.
 

fskimospy

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That’s not a bad one and does fit the available evidence. I was already 50/50 on whether it was actually the bullet that clipped him.


My own personal conspiracy theory on the shooting was the gun man was angry at his dad. Dad was a big Trump supporter so he gave money to the Dems for the attention when he was younger. Then decided to take a shot at him.
The main issue with that is he apparently had info about both Biden and Trump’s schedules, which would imply he was at least considering taking a shot at Biden had the opportunity presented itself.
 

Moonbeam

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My own personal conspiracy theory on the shooting was the gun man was angry at his dad. Dad was a big Trump supporter so he gave money to the Dems for the attention when he was younger. Then decided to take a shot at him.
I think the phenomenon we see in this country regarding random acts of violence for attention are all about anger toward parents. It is our parents that can do the most psychic killing damage to children by making them feel they are worthless. The sense of betrayal and rage this creates that at first we would express only creates more and more sever trauma as parents in no uncertain terms nip that in the bud. Once that rage is suppressed it smolders maybe for years and years until, depending on the circumstances of some individuals it results in acting out. The way this is done to get even is to prove the parent right, to make them suffer the fate of having to live as the parent of a worthless child who has done something tremendously and consequentially wrong. "See how worthless I am you fucking worthless parent. I killed the President. Now live with that."
 

pmv

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One can think the truth of what happened is important, without believing in conspiracy theories. Most of all I find it surprising so little of the aftermath has involved the gun debate.

i'm curious, among other things, whether the shooter was _only_ going for Trump or if he was planning a mass shooting and Trump was just the cherry on top.

It's not as if it's unknown for a conservative-leaning crazy shooter to target their own demographic (did they ever work out the motive of that Las Vegas 'bumpstock' killer?)

(Interesting that the boss of the SS has quit, though. As with post-debate Biden, I guess very occasionally people at the top face consequences for failures)
 

IronWing

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(Interesting that the boss of the SS has quit, though. As with post-debate Biden, I guess very occasionally people at the top face consequences for failures)
She was going to be out in less six months anyway.
 

eelw

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One can think the truth of what happened is important, without believing in conspiracy theories. Most of all I find it surprising so little of the aftermath has involved the gun debate.

i'm curious, among other things, whether the shooter was _only_ going for Trump or if he was planning a mass shooting and Trump was just the cherry on top.

It's not as if it's unknown for a conservative-leaning crazy shooter to target their own demographic (did they ever work out the motive of that Las Vegas 'bumpstock' killer?)

(Interesting that the boss of the SS has quit, though. As with post-debate Biden, I guess very occasionally people at the top face consequences for failures)
In his rally speech last night, orange monkey called his crowd brave for not freaking out

And apparently in the house committees, they said the initial volley of 3 and the last volley of 5 was the shooter. So did the SS sniper get him in one shot and he involuntarily press trigger as he died?
 

Shervan360

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Why are Biden and Harris encouraging foreign countries to assassinate Trump?

You simply must provide a link from a CREDIBLE source for such a claim.
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