Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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fskimospy

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My only objection here is that Trump wasn't convicted of rape. A jury found against him in a civil trial.
A jury of his peers found it was more likely than not that he engaged in conduct commonly known as rape.

Would you leave a family member alone with someone like that?
 

brycejones

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My only objection here is that Trump wasn't convicted of rape. A jury found against him in a civil trial.
So civil trials don't determine facts? Interesting.

You used to talk about needing trials to determine what really happened. We've now multiple trials with Trump civil and criminal that have found as a matter of law he did in fact do the things he was accused of. Now you're ok with discounting those finding because reasons.

Are your goal posts powered by the same engines they use in funny cars?
 

fskimospy

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So civil trials don't determine facts? Interesting.
Look, if Trump was found to be a rapist behind a reasonable doubt that would be a reason not to vote for him. If the jury just found he was a probable rapist then by all means make him president.

I mean it’s not like he had a private email server or something. In cases like that you can feel free to declare someone ineligible.
 

Moonbeam

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My only objection here is that Trump wasn't convicted of rape. A jury found against him in a civil trial.
He was convicted of sexual assault and the sixe of the award indicates belief digital rape took place:


Is street language he raped her. Many a father or brother would kill someone who did that to a daughter or sister. I think you are using the same inability to deal with clear facts because you can’t allow facing unpleasant facts. Trump is a sexual pig, lies and destroys peoples lives to shield himself from the consequences and your fear of liberal irrational hate for him is blinding you to the truth.
 

brycejones

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Look, if Trump was found to be a rapist behind a reasonable doubt that would be a reason not to vote for him. If the jury just found he was a probable rapist then by all means make him president.

I mean it’s not like he had a private email server or something. In cases like that you can feel free to declare someone ineligible.
We'll just ignore his 34 felonies for business fraud as well. Those don't matter to the character of being President.
 

eelw

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He was convicted of sexual assault and the sixe of the award indicates belief digital rape took place:


Is street language he raped her. Many a father or brother would kill someone who did that to a daughter or sister. I think you are using the same inability to deal with clear facts because you can’t allow facing unpleasant facts. Trump is a sexual pig, lies and destroys peoples lives to shield himself from the consequences and your fear of liberal irrational hate for him is blinding you to the truth.
Remember the Jan 6 patriots were unarmed according to greenie
 

fskimospy

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We'll just ignore his 34 felonies for business fraud as well. Those don't matter to the character of being President.
Oh in those felony convictions the judge and jury were mean to him so they don’t count either.

It was funny how quickly it turned from ‘if he’s such a criminal why hasn’t he been convicted of anything?’ 34 felony convictions later it’s now ‘well those don’t count’.

I wish they would just be honest with us and themselves. They view having their preferred political party in power as more important than if that person is a felon and a rapist. They pretended to care in the past but when the rubber hit the road turns out the answer is no.
 

Moonbeam

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many liberals bear false witness? Provide citations to that you fake. What a crock of utter shit. Your word salad of ignorance is worthy of Trump. I bet you love the truthtellers that are Trump and Vance.

You support a rapist moonbeam? Lord, do you ever read the garbage you spew?

Bull-fucking-shit.

Let’s see all those liberals bearing false witness.
What false witnessing liberal would have the capacity to see it as such? Have fun with this:

 

manly

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Not even sure why I'm asking, but...

So if he wasn't shot/hit by shrapnel (same thing), did he mash a blood capsule against his ear hollywood style? Wouldn't that have been caught on camera? Maybe David Blaine was brought in as one of the secret service people, has anyone considered that possibility?
The FBI already said it was a bullet or a fragment of one, so it doesn't really matter to you or me. For others, the distinction could be meaningful. If it was a direct bullet, and good ole' Doc Ronny "Johnson" wasn't lying, then DJT was perhaps an inch away from death. So a near miss is more inspiring to his gullible MAGAts.

If it was shrapnel, then although he survived an assassination attempt, it was never that close for him. Obviously Trump will play up the "bullet nearly killed me" storyline. He lies about nearly everything else, so why wouldn't he embellish a little on this one?
 

Moonbeam

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Remember the Jan 6 patriots were unarmed according to greenie
If I believed that liberals and the devil were pretty much the same thing, I would probably have gone armed. Unfortunately for whatever importance you may have thought was the relevant point of such a reminder, I don’t think liberals are devils. Believing such rubbish is where the real danger is, in my opinion. It’s fanaticism. Liberals and conservatives are both mechanical programs and no guilt can be assigned to either.
 

fskimospy

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If I believed that liberals and the devil were pretty much the same thing, I would probably have gone armed. Unfortunately for whatever importance you may have thought was the relevant point of such a reminder, I don’t think liberals are devils. Believing such rubbish is where the real danger is, in my opinion. It’s fanaticism. Liberals and conservatives are both mechanical programs and no guilt can be assigned to either.
Bad attempt at #bothsides.
 

Moonbeam

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Bad attempt at #bothsides.
They only look like two sides if you don’t see their essential identity, belief in good and evil, praise or condemnation worthy based on programming. There is a third way of seeing. Everything happens exactly as we believe. I don’t believe. Or I am full of beliefs I am on another level am aware are all bullshit. I am attached to the irrelevant but see that I am and therefore am unable to take myself seriously. Words are useless to explain all of this.

Maybe both sides are very different but neither can justifiably blame the other would make more sense to you. There is no such thing as guilt in reality. It is a product of imaginative thinking.
 

fskimospy

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They only look like two sides if you don’t see their essential identity, belief in good and evil, praise or condemnation worthy based on programming. There is a third way of seeing. Everything happens exactly as we believe. I don’t believe. Or I am full of beliefs I am on another level am aware are all bullshit. I am attached to the irrelevant but see that I am and therefore am unable to take myself seriously. Words are useless to explain all of this.
Nope. One side embraces the most pathologically dishonest politician in history and the other doesn’t.
 
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BoomerD

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A jury of his peers found it was more likely than not that he engaged in conduct commonly known as rape.

Would you leave a family member alone with someone like that?
Technically, GM is right. King Donnie was NOT convicted of rape…”convicted” being the key word. That would require a criminal trial and unanimous verdict from the jurors. He WAS found to have engaged in sexual abuse and defamttion in a CIVIL trial…which requires a lower standard of guilt than a criminal trial…

The verdict was split: Jurors rejected Carroll’s claim that she was raped, finding Trump responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.

But you are also right in that he should never be trusted…with a femle relative…or ever.
 

Moonbeam

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Nope. One side embraces the most pathologically dishonest politician in history and the other doesn’t.
I did an edit to the post you quoted. What I refer to has nothing to do with who we embrace. It has to do with who we blame for embracing what. Your statement is obvious to me.

My point is that conservatives justify that support because their moral values which are more extensive than liberal moral values are real moral values of evolutionary survival values but because of childhood programming for which they are not guilty of causing to have accidentally happened to them by circumstance, they are not personally guilty for how good values got twisted and fucked by wrong programming. To blame is to be asleep. We were programmed by being made to feel guilty so all we do is blame.

You do less than most but are no exception. The irony of ironies is that many American conservatives call themselves Christians, an act of massive hypocrisy because Jesus brought the Good News that we are all forgiven. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. God is love and love is all there is. This is truth and known to those who know it.
 

Moonbeam

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Technically, GM is right. King Donnie was NOT convicted of rape…”convicted” being the key word. That would require a criminal trial and unanimous verdict from the jurors. He WAS found to have engaged in sexual abuse and defamttion in a CIVIL trial…which requires a lower standard of guilt than a criminal trial…



But you are also right in that he should never be trusted…with a femle relative…or ever.
As I said, he was convicted of digital rape. And, owing to the comparative huge size of his fingers to his dick, makes that a bigger crime.
 

fskimospy

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Technically, GM is right. King Donnie was NOT convicted of rape…”convicted” being the key word. That would require a criminal trial and unanimous verdict from the jurors. He WAS found to have engaged in sexual abuse and defamttion in a CIVIL trial…which requires a lower standard of guilt than a criminal trial…
He was not convicted, however he was found to have most likely engaged in conduct that is commonly known as rape, and a court confirmed this.

Again - that he can be referred to as a rapist is court confirmed.
But you are also right in that he should never be trusted…with a femle relative…or ever.
Apparently being president is fine though.
 

Moonbeam

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There are people who hate Greenman b
Why does it matter if Trump was hurt by a bullet or something else? Why does it matter if Trump is lying about it? It’s not like any of this info would change anyone’s opinion about Trump.
My personal opinion is that because of liberal terror that Trump might win the coming election and the magnitude of the disaster that will likely create, liberals are reacting irrationally to make mountains out of mole hills in order to try to spread their dread and terror in the hopes people will vote against him. You can’t say enough bad things about Trump even if it amounts to false witness, imagining all manner of alternative explanations and conspiracies about how he didn’t actually get shot. We don’t see that all our fears already happened.
 

outriding

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What false witnessing liberal would have the capacity to see it as such? Have fun with this:

That link is by far the dumbest thing I have read and that is including brandonbullshit posts

So high level liberalism is bearing false witness becuase we don’t follow Christianity

How can you witness something that no one can see.

No one has seen god and etc…
 

Moonbeam

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He was not convicted, however he was found to have most likely engaged in conduct that is commonly known as rape, and a court confirmed this.

Again - that he can be referred to as a rapist is court confirmed.

Apparently being president is fine though.
Better the devil you dream of having the audacity to be than a liberal devil who threatens to reveal the hypocrisy of so called conservative faith. They were made to feel so worthless they refuse to let it happen again.
 

outriding

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He was not convicted, however he was found to have most likely engaged in conduct that is commonly known as rape, and a court confirmed this.

Again - that he can be referred to as a rapist is court confirmed.

Apparently being president is fine though.

Right…


Kind of funny she could not say for sure if it was his penis or a finger that penetrated her

And NY says it has to be the penis

I guess Donnie’s small donger got him off …

Pun intended
 
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