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fskimospy

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Better the devil you dream of having the audacity to be than a liberal devil who threatens to reveal the hypocrisy of so called conservative faith. They were made to feel so worthless they refuse to let it happen again.
This is true - conservatives embrace lies because the alternative is too painful.

Some liberals do this too but it is not even remotely equivalent.
 

APU_Fusion

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Better the devil you dream of having the audacity to be than a liberal devil who threatens to reveal the hypocrisy of so called conservative faith. They were made to feel so worthless they refuse to let it happen again.
You are so full of shit. Provide a single proof god exists. You are literally spewing personal feelings as fact.

Prove god exists assclown. Not referring to an old book but real demonstrable proof.
 

Moonbeam

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That link is by far the dumbest thing I have read and that is including brandonbullshit posts

So high level liberalism is bearing false witness becuase we don’t follow Christianity

How can you witness something that no one can see.

No one has seen god and etc…
Bearing false witness in my opinion means casting blame without evidence like the idiots here that call me a Trump supporter. That is something I can witness thst nobody else can see. I know I don’t support trump. O body else can know that like I do.

How do you know that link is the dumbest thing you have ever read? I just happen to believe you. I don’t know for sure. What I know is that I call myself a progressive and when I compare what I believe with what that link implies it appears to be a product of profound programmed ignorance. The idiot that wrote it, however, might give a lot of money to orphans. His good deeds might be greater than mine.
 

APU_Fusion

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Moonbeam claims to be progressive but says liberal bear false witness. That is just like Trump groveling to Christian’s and slipping that he isn’t christian

His 10k words of ego say nothing. Provide real statistical analysis of liberals lying more than conservatives you bloviating ego.

Provide a single scientific proof God exists or Christianity is the (as opposed to all other religions and faith). You use lots of words to try and convince yourself you are a Socrates when you are really Trojan horse of ego.
 
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Moonbeam

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This is true - conservatives embrace lies because the alternative is too painful.

Some liberals do this too but it is not even remotely equivalent.
There are a number of ways to react to that:

Some here engage in the belittlement of conservatives for blindness they wish to call contemptuous.

Some try to argue in a way that attempts to confront that avoidance by pointing to the internal illogic such rationalizations attempt to avoid becoming into conscious awareness.

I try to explain how conservatives got into the situation they are in by suggesting how they got that way, thst they feel guilty and do not want to see that they are how they are because they had to escape feeling guilt and pain simply to survive and that they no longer are in danger that they were made to believe lies. They are me. We are all the same. There are a trillion ways to be different in belief but only one way of being empty of it. I call it being awake or being human as we were born to be, free of ego identity.
 

APU_Fusion

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There are a number of ways to react to that:

Some here engage in the belittlement of conservatives for blindness they wish to call contemptuous.

Some try to argue in a way that attempts to confront that avoidance by pointing to the internal illogic such rationalizations attempt to avoid becoming into conscious awareness.

I try to explain how conservatives got into the situation they are in by suggesting how they got that way, thst they feel guilty and do not want to see that they are how they are because they had to escape feeling guilt and pain simply to survive and that they no longer are in danger that they were made to believe lies. They are me. We are all the same. There are a trillion ways to be different in belief but only one way of being empty of it. I call it being awake or being human as we were born to be, free of ego identity.
Define sin and provide proof it is real. Nevermind, you go on ignore. You are crazy.
 
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He was never shot or hit. Fake blood applied. He did hire the shooter to shoot one of his supporters. This would explain his none existent ear wound as well as his reaction to having an attempt assassination attempt against him. all staged for the photo op and fist pumping. you’ll never see a medical record because there was no wound.

my conspiracy theory if i’m allowed one

all a PR stunt to rile up his base and sell more merch
 
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Moonbeam

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You are so full of shit. Provide a single proof god exists. You are literally spewing personal feelings as fact.

Prove god exists assclown. Not referring to an old book but real demonstrable proof.
Why would I try to prove that the God you believe does not exist when the God you don’t believe exists doesn’t exist. The God I believe exists is not the God you don’t believe in. The God I believe in is not a product of belief but a Conscious state I arrived in after losing faith that God exists. I just woke up and knew who God is. I still can’t believe it. It’s mind blowing, almost like finding out it’s Trump. Keep up the good work.
Define sin and provide proof it is real. Nevermind, you go on ignore. You are crazy.
Where did I say I believe in sin. I think thst sin is the belief in sin but sin does not exist. What kink of idiot, for example, believes that a God of love would create sin. That takes some egotistical horseshit if you ask me.
 

BoomerD

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Oh in those felony convictions the judge and jury were mean to him so they don’t count either.

It was funny how quickly it turned from ‘if he’s such a criminal why hasn’t he been convicted of anything?’ 34 felony convictions later it’s now ‘well those don’t count’.

I wish they would just be honest with us and themselves. They view having their preferred political party in power as more important than if that person is a felon and a rapist. They pretended to care in the past but when the rubber hit the road turns out the answer is no.
I don't keep up with the excuses/"reasoning " but those fake felony convictions won't stand...too many of the "crimes" he was charged with were past the statute of limitations, and the Stormy payoff wasn't illegal..
 
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fskimospy

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I don't keep up with the exxcuses/"reasoning " but those fake felony convictions won't stand...too many of the "crimes" he was charged with were past the statute of limitations, and the Stormy payoff wasn't illegal..
They weren’t past the statute of limitations, that’s why he got convicted.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I don't keep up with the exxcuses/"reasoning " but those fake felony convictions won't stand...too many of the "crimes" he was charged with were past the statute of limitations, and the Stormy payoff wasn't illegal..
No, they where not past the statutes of limitations.. NEW YORK LAW dictates that statutes of limitations pause if the person leaves the state. Not only did Trump move to Washington DC in 2017, when he became President, he moved his main residence to Florida in 2019. Which means the statuted of limitations paused per New York Law.

I thought you where smarter than this BoomerD.
 
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dank69

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I did an edit to the post you quoted. What I refer to has nothing to do with who we embrace. It has to do with who we blame for embracing what. Your statement is obvious to me.

My point is that conservatives justify that support because their moral values which are more extensive than liberal moral values are real moral values of evolutionary survival values but because of childhood programming for which they are not guilty of causing to have accidentally happened to them by circumstance, they are not personally guilty for how good values got twisted and fucked by wrong programming. To blame is to be asleep. We were programmed by being made to feel guilty so all we do is blame.

You do less than most but are no exception. The irony of ironies is that many American conservatives call themselves Christians, an act of massive hypocrisy because Jesus brought the Good News that we are all forgiven. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. God is love and love is all there is. This is truth and known to those who know it.
Here's the problem with "conservatives have more extensive values": the only time they have more extensive values is when those values are a convenient cudgel aimed at liberals (or whatever group of others happen to be on the menu). Those extensive values evaporate the moment they become inconvenient for them or their team.

So do they really have more values? Or do they actually have fewer along with a bunch of extra weapons disguised as values?
 

Indus

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He was never shot or hit. Fake blood applied. He did hire the shooter to shoot one of his supporters. This would explain his. on existent ear wound as well as his reaction to having an attempt assassination attempt against him. all staged for the photo op and fist pumping. you’ll never see a medical record because there was no wound.

my conspiracy theory if i’m allowed one

all a PR stunt to rile up his base and sell more merch

I don't really see any holes, do you?



He musta been playing counterstrike or something!
 

BoomerD

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No, they where not past the statutes of limitations.. NEW YORK LAW dictates that statutes of limitations pause if the person leaves the state. Not only did Trump move to Washington DC in 2017, when he became President, he moved his main residence to Florida in 2019. Which means the statuted of limitations paused per New York Law.

I thought you where smarter than this BoomerD.
Whoa...not MY arguments...I think the beautiful being is guilty as hell...and is also guilty of the Russian collusion that they've been denying for years.
These are the kinds of excuses/"reasoning" the righties keep throwing out...and COULD be the lind of thing Uncle Thomas uses to toss the whole thing out. Also, acvording to their arguments, the SoL only gets paused when someone flees the state snd their location is unknown...everyone knew where King Donnie was.
 

brycejones

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I don't keep up with the excuses/"reasoning " but those fake felony convictions won't stand...too many of the "crimes" he was charged with were past the statute of limitations, and the Stormy payoff wasn't illegal..

Yes because Trumps defense team (and he had good lawyers for the by trial) would completely miss the statute of limitations in their pre-trial motions.
 
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outriding

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Bearing false witness in my opinion means casting blame without evidence like the idiots here that call me a Trump supporter. That is something I can witness thst nobody else can see. I know I don’t support trump. O body else can know that like I do.

How do you know that link is the dumbest thing you have ever read? I just happen to believe you. I don’t know for sure. What I know is that I call myself a progressive and when I compare what I believe with what that link implies it appears to be a product of profound programmed ignorance. The idiot that wrote it, however, might give a lot of money to orphans. His good deeds might be greater than mine.


I am not listening to anyone that preaches morality while they buy rape insurance..

and anyone that believes the same thing they can go for fuck themselves..
 
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brycejones

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Whoa...not MY arguments...I think the beautiful being is guilty as hell...and is also guilty of the Russian collusion that they've been denying for years.
These are the kinds of excuses/"reasoning" the righties keep throwing out...and COULD be the lind of thing Uncle Thomas uses to toss the whole thing out. Also, acvording to their arguments, the SoL only gets paused when someone flees the state snd their location is unknown...everyone knew where King Donnie was.
Your first post didn’t make clear that you were just repeating arguments without believing them to be accurate.
 
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pete6032

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A bullet from a long gun traveling faster than the speed of sound millimeters from you ear?
I am not an expert in the field I’d assume there would be some impact to your hearing however I could be totally wrong.
The noise comes from the explosion of the gunpowder, not the bullet itself. There is some noise as the bullet cracks the sound barrier but that is relatively quiet.
 

NWRMidnight

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Whoa...not MY arguments...I think the beautiful being is guilty as hell...and is also guilty of the Russian collusion that they've been denying for years.
These are the kinds of excuses/"reasoning" the righties keep throwing out...and COULD be the lind of thing Uncle Thomas uses to toss the whole thing out. Also, acvording to their arguments, the SoL only gets paused when someone flees the state snd their location is unknown...everyone knew where King Donnie was.
If it's not your argument, then you shouldn't post right wing talking points, as they are usually bullshit. 😉
 
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Moonbeam

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Here's the problem with "conservatives have more extensive values": the only time they have more extensive values is when those values are a convenient cudgel aimed at liberals (or whatever group of others happen to be on the menu). Those extensive values evaporate the moment they become inconvenient for them or their team.

So do they really have more values? Or do they actually have fewer along with a bunch of extra weapons disguised as values?
It's a matter of evolution in my opinion. I believe moral values are basically innate. Let's look at some of them:

Care—the desire to help those in need and avoid inflicting harm

An evolutionary trait expressed most powerfully in mammals and social mammals in particular. The yield, a greater chance to mature and mate. Important to conservatives and for liberals primary.

Liberty—the drive to seek liberation from constraints and to fight oppression. A moral concern shared by liberals and conservatives.

A product of cognitive thinking, forethought. and intelligence. Yield, greater consensually expressed care for the individual's personal happiness and the resulting feeling of a debt to reciprocate.

Fairness—the impulse to impose rules that apply equally to all and avoid cheating A genetically innate concern of social primates expressed even in monkeys and shared by liberals and conservatives.

Loyalty—the instinct to affirm the good of the group and punish those who betray it A moral value necessary in social animals that yields social order and cohesion. Vital for conservatives and not so much for liberals

Authority—the urge to uphold hierarchical relationships and avoid subverting them

Same as loyalty and based on respect for authority of elders who have valid and extensive life experience Vital to conservatives, not really much for liberals

Sanctity—the tendency to admire purity and experience disgust at degradation



The genetic revulsion we feel if we ingest poison usually as contaminated food, the disgust and the vomit reflex. A life saving genetic endowment often turned into religious rules and rituals. Important to conservatives no very much to liberals. I agree that conservatives view liberals as morally dangerous because they lack moral intuitions that conservatives value. Sadly, our self respect is based on the fact that what we believe we believe to be true because it is sacred. Liberals are loose cannons morally and can believe anything.




Liberals constantly fall into the trap of thinking that moral choices are rational decisions based on logical thinking when in fact they are based on intuition, gut feelings based on group held standards. Liberals, by ignoring so many areas of moral concern that are natural to conservative thinking are seen as threats to the group precluding any hope of reasoning persuading them. Liberals and the Devil can quote scripture.

The issue is that the more moral concerns you have and the more ideas you have swallowed to support them, the more areas in which you can mistake your personal morality as evolutionarily appropriate. Rational thinking came late to the social primate game.

I believe, therefore that you are wrong, that liberals actually understand moral questions better than liberals in that they hold a greater number of moral concerns and ones that have survival value and any person of instinct can feel that to be true.

Again, the problem is that we have been programmed to believe in moral ideas when morality is what a person does who is awake. By awake, I mean present joyously in the now. I would call that God consciousness but names are not the thing.

Here is a now dated example of how these ideas play out politically:

 
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Moonbeam

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I am not listening to anyone that preaches morality while they buy rape insurance..

and anyone that believes the same thing they can go for fuck themselves..
I assume you intended to tell me something here and I apologize because I don't know what it is
 

ch33zw1z

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He was never shot or hit. Fake blood applied. He did hire the shooter to shoot one of his supporters. This would explain his. on existent ear wound as well as his reaction to having an attempt assassination attempt against him. all staged for the photo op and fist pumping. you’ll never see a medical record because there was no wound.

my conspiracy theory if i’m allowed one

all a PR stunt to rile up his base and sell more merch

I mean, still not anywhere close to as far fetched as the standard conservative conspiracy theory. Needs more alt-facts
 

HomerJS

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There are people who hate Greenman b

My personal opinion is that because of liberal terror that Trump might win the coming election and the magnitude of the disaster that will likely create, liberals are reacting irrationally to make mountains out of mole hills in order to try to spread their dread and terror in the hopes people will vote against him. You can’t say enough bad things about Trump even if it amounts to false witness, imagining all manner of alternative explanations and conspiracies about how he didn’t actually get shot. We don’t see that all our fears already happened.
Trump failing to provide evidence leaves the event open to interpretation. Where are the medical records?
 
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