Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

[kage69]

Per what I read the gun had it’s serial number scratched off, safe to assume this wasn’t a legal sale.

I was thinking he removed it after purchase, but then I remembered, this is Florida. They don't give a shit about ghost guns. They simply aren't restricted.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I was thinking he removed it after purchase, but then I remembered, this is Florida. They don't give a shit about ghost guns. They simply aren't restricted.

Could be the case, it’s still illegal and strange to scratch off a serial number on a gun.

 

[fskimospy]

Could be the case, it’s still illegal and strange to scratch off a serial number on a gun.

‘Illegal and strange’ seems to describe this guy pretty well.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I was thinking he removed it after purchase, but then I remembered, this is Florida. They don't give a shit about ghost guns. They simply aren't restricted.

Well the whole "ghost gun" thing is poorly communicated by legislators and gets mixed with a lot of different stuff.

First, there are fully 3d printed firearms or lower receivers (what is legally considered "the gun"). That's how the "ghost gun" thing started IIRC.

Then there are 80% lower builds. Kind of like building your own PC, except you can't legally transfer it ever without serialization.

Both of those are very much in the hobbyist realm and far too much a pain for someone wanting something usable "out of the box". There are better ways to illegally obtain firearms.

Then you have private sales, which is commonly referred to as the "gun show loophole". Not all states require background checks or affidavits for private sales, or sometimes only for pistols and not long arms (rifles, shotguns). Existing federal law does not cover private sales IIRC.

Then there are illegal sales/straw purchases, and that's where I'd hazard the bulk of illegal acquisitions come from - lying on paperwork (purchaser or dealer) to make the sale go through, and destroying the serialization at some point along the way.


Edit: my knowledge on the topic isn't perfect by any means, so someone more knowledgeable feel free to correct me (I think I'm roughly on point though)

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Could be the case, it’s still illegal and strange to scratch off a serial number on a gun.

I was thinking he removed it after purchase, but then I remembered, this is Florida. They don't give a shit about ghost guns. They simply aren't restricted.

There's no practical reason to scratch off the SN unless it's been used in a crime and you need to sell it/are selling it illegally. Scratching it off before you try to assassinate a freaking president is illogical since it's a suicide mission anyhow.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

There's no practical reason to scratch off the SN unless it's been used in a crime and you need to sell it/are selling it illegally. Scratching it off before you try to assassinate a freaking president is illogical since it's a suicide mission anyhow.

Exactly, sort of like removing the VIN # on your car. There are no good reasons to do it, there are plenty of bad reasons to do it and numerous illegal reasons to do it.

 

[HomerJS]

Interesting response since Fox News looks for any crime committed by a migrant and puts it in a 24x7 loop. You seem to be highly influenced by that.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Agreed, but that doesn't mean they don't need clear Federal guidelines as to their powers of office. For example if you support insurrectionists or think civil rights are a la carte and up to you, well you aren't eligible to run. I think we have an Amendment that spells it out thankfully.

Keep the elections, all voters have to do is nominate sane people fit for office. If they decide to pass on that, well that's their call. Have the Governor choose an appointee from a list approved by a federal court in the event no one is elected.

Sheriffs are an odd bunch. There is a belief among them that they do not answer to the US Constitution, only to the State Constitutions. Some of them genuinely believe that are above the law, that they are THE law. In some places, there is a belief that the only one with authority to arrest a Sheriff is the Coroner. And yet, there are often no requirements to run for Sheriff, no need for them to have any legal or police experience or training at all.


That whole system needs to be reworked.

 

[compcons]

Guy not living in Florida spends 12 hours in the bushes waiting for someone he wants to shoot who wasn't scheduled to be at that golf course?

I will see myself o the conspiracy thread.

 

[Pens1566]

Guy not living in Florida spends 12 hours in the bushes waiting for someone he wants to shoot who wasn't scheduled to be at that golf course?

I will see myself o the conspiracy thread.

Yeah, there's something nutty about this one that just makes my spidey sense tingle.
1) Weird dude with really inconsistent background
2) Never any real danger (that weapon at ~1/4 mile isn't legit)
3) timing

 

[dank69]

Yeah, there's something nutty about this one that just makes my spidey sense tingle.
1) Weird dude with really inconsistent background
2) Never any real danger (that weapon at ~1/4 mile isn't legit)
3) timing

Let's pretend that this one, or both were somehow put up to it with the intention of helping Trump in the polls. The first guy was sussed out to be a Republican within hours of the incident. Did the people behind this strategy not think this one would be outed as well? Only thing keeping this a possibility is how stupid you have to be to be a Trump supporter at this point. I mean his campaign thought JD was the right pick for VP, so...

 

[eelw]

Sheriffs are an odd bunch.

But I like this sheriff doing the press briefings. “Listen to what we say. You’ll have a limited number of questions. So don’t waste them”

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Talk about being 'out there'.

Randy Quaid Blames Michelle Obama for Donald Trump Assassination Attempt​

Quaid further alleged that Obama is manipulating people into registering to vote by fearmongering about Trump.

 

[Pens1566]

Let's pretend that this one, or both were somehow put up to it with the intention of helping Trump in the polls. The first guy was sussed out to be a Republican within hours of the incident. Did the people behind this strategy not think this one would be outed as well? Only thing keeping this a possibility is how stupid you have to be to be a Trump supporter at this point. I mean his campaign thought JD was the right pick for VP, so...

You nailed it. They're dumb as a box of rocks.

 

[zinfamous]

Guy not living in Florida spends 12 hours in the bushes waiting for someone he wants to shoot who wasn't scheduled to be at that golf course?

I will see myself o the conspiracy thread.

I was thinking this yesterday when the news reported that the golf outing wasn't part of Trump's official schedule, hence why SS didn't pre-scout the course well before his arrival.

My thinking is thus: Trump, as a lifelong criminal and as doing blatant criminal acts during 4 years as president, maintained a healthy schedule of "non-official outings and visits," especially in the WH, when his admin shut down the precedent of making all visits--everyone that meets with the president--public information. This, of course, is by design. For one, it is thoroughly documented that leading up to the J6 insurrection, Trump held regular late night meetings with Bannon, Stone, and other J6 planners in the WH in an unregistered capacity. This, from WH staff accounts.

I'm wondering what was the purpose of Trump's "unofficial" visit to the golf course and which probably-Russian spy he was planning to meet. Before knowing that the dude had been staking this place out for 12 hours, in what is now a non-official stop, who is it that Trump was there to meet and collect bribes from in turn for promises of a dramatically illegal nature, and also is this the same person that decided Trump was too much of a problem and ordered the hit.

.....hmm.

 

[Paratus]

Talk about being 'out there'.

Randy Quaid Blames Michelle Obama for Donald Trump Assassination Attempt​

Quaid further alleged that Obama is manipulating people into registering to vote by fearmongering about Trump.

Randy is definitely off his rocker but I heard he was abducted by aliens and they did things to him - sexually.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

You nailed it. They're dumb as a box of rocks.

You got a beef with boxes of rocks?

 

[K1052]

Randy is definitely off his rocker but I heard he was abducted by aliens and they did things to him - sexually.

Dennis Quaid also has gone full MAGA and just played Reagan in what has been described as a supremely tedious biopic that simply worships the man as conservatives wish to remember him.

The only good Quaid we have left is Jack and I assume he's kept that way by the Ryan influence.

 

[zinfamous]

Dennis Quaid also has gone full MAGA and just played Reagan in what has been described as a supremely tedious biopic that simply worships the man as conservatives wish to remember him.

The only good Quaid we have left is Jack and I assume he's kept that way by the Ryan influence.

lol, I saw one trailer for that thing and...mygod. It looks awful and generally full of masturbatory conservative fantasy. I'm guessing they aren't going to portray Nancy, who is extremely well-known to have schlobbed every knob in Hollywood in those days, as the actual person that she was? I used to know her nickname from the time, but I forget it.

 

[pmv]

Maybe the US has just invented a new sport?

 

[kage69]

Yeah, he's off the reservation for real isn't he? Anyone who supports Trump at this point is a lost cause, that brain just doesn't work anymore. Right wing fantasy is his reality now.

Oh Dennis. At least we'll always have that Christian Bale homage, and the version you did to smooth things over

 

[kage69]

lol, I saw one trailer for that thing and...mygod. It looks awful and generally full of masturbatory conservative fantasy. I'm guessing they aren't going to portray Nancy, who is extremely well-known to have schlobbed every knob in Hollywood in those days, as the actual person that she was? I used to know her nickname from the time, but I forget it.

Nancy? Oh you mean The Burlington Throat Factory.

 

[Indus]

Lets not forget about Gary Busey

 

[HomerJS]

Talk about being 'out there'.

Randy Quaid Blames Michelle Obama for Donald Trump Assassination Attempt​

Quaid further alleged that Obama is manipulating people into registering to vote by fearmongering about Trump.

If there is a black person anywhere in proximity they get blamed. That's why gun rights don't really works for us.

Interesting quoting Trump is fear mongering. Gaslighting at its best.

 

[eelw]

I was thinking this yesterday when the news reported that the golf outing wasn't part of Trump's official schedule, hence why SS didn't pre-scout the course well before his arrival.

Yup when many in his campaign wasn’t aware he was there that day, was it pure dumb luck he was at the right place at the right time? Before more details came out, it was assumed like it doesn’t take a trained assassin to follow the protective detail. But now it’s known he was waiting for 12 hours, definitely hmmmmmmm