Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

[UNCjigga]

Allow me to be an asshole for a moment…but I wonder if the right-wing networks are in a bidding war to get the first post-shooting interview. Don Junior taking bids?

Also, this happens just as “Project 2025” started to trend on social media. Watch how quickly the right reclaims that phrase as way to paint it as violent leftist rhetoric rather than an actual threat to the country. They always win the messaging wars.

/snark off

 

[K1052]

Or I guess Biden will deliver remarks on camera shortly.

 

[IronWing]

Is this where you provide an out of context quote about sacrificing liberty for security or do you have something else?

"Benjamin Franklin also said, in his unique way, the impeachment was preferable to the more traditional way of removing a monarch in Europe – by death."

What the Founders thought about impeachment and the President | Constitution Center

One of the most hotly debated clauses in the Constitution deals with the removal of federal government officials through the impeachment process. But what did the Founders who crafted that language think about the process and its overall intention?

constitutioncenter.org

Presidents Can Be Impeached Because Benjamin Franklin Thought It Was Better Than Assassination

The founding fathers struggled with the idea of whether the top leader should be impeachable

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[UNCjigga]

Ughh, Trump immediately pumping his fist and shouting “FIGHT!! FIGHT!! FIGHT!!” [after asking for his shoes] as he’s escorted off the stage.

Welp, I’m guessing he won’t be looking to tone down the rhetoric anytime soon.

 

[Jaskalas]

Probably the worst possible thing that could happen to further polarize the country, regardless of how you feel about Trump.

Such devolution of our civility and escalation of our hostility was inevitable from the moment a person uttered the words "fake news" and a crowd cheered. The rest will write itself as it always has. With two factions of tribal monkeys duking it out.

 

[Jaskalas]

"Benjamin Franklin also said, in his unique way, the impeachment was preferable to the more traditional way of removing a monarch in Europe – by death."

Republicans were given two chances to impeach Trump for his crimes.
They willingly keep choosing this path at every opportunity to avoid it.

 

[blankslate]

Yup not like he’s going to get sympathy votes from Dems

that's the thing there are a large number of voters who are not hardline for either party and who vote one way one election then another way in a following presidential election. The swing voters are unpredictable at certain times.



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[ivwshane]

"Benjamin Franklin also said, in his unique way, the impeachment was preferable to the more traditional way of removing a monarch in Europe – by death."

What the Founders thought about impeachment and the President | Constitution Center

One of the most hotly debated clauses in the Constitution deals with the removal of federal government officials through the impeachment process. But what did the Founders who crafted that language think about the process and its overall intention?

constitutioncenter.org

Presidents Can Be Impeached Because Benjamin Franklin Thought It Was Better Than Assassination

The founding fathers struggled with the idea of whether the top leader should be impeachable

www.smithsonianmag.com

So no, Franklin didn’t support citizens using violence to remove presidents or government officials.

 

[IronWing]

So no, Franklin didn’t support citizens using violence to remove presidents or government officials.

I interpret it as, "One way or another, the people are going to remove bastards. Impeachment is a preferred method."

 

[blankslate]

Nobody in politics should be saying anything lengthy without full clarity about the situation.

In the near term... which definitely includes after 24 hours in which President Biden will be as informed as anyone.

Like it or not given the recent consternations about the fitness of candidates for one reason or another there will be demands for a verbal statement and probably a few questions.



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*e2a which can be reasonably postponed for 3 or 4 days but one believes that after that there will be expectations for a verbal statement.

 

[ivwshane]

I interpret it as, "One way or another, the people are going to remove bastards. Impeachment is a preferred method."

I think you should reread the quote, he clearly supported a more formal approach compared to a violent one. I’m not even sure how you are interpreting this so badly.

 

[Muse]

Probably the worst possible thing that could happen to further polarize the country, regardless of how you feel about Trump.

A top Trump campaign official said to the effect that "they" have tried to stop him in court, on the campaign trail and now this, intimating that this was part of a conspiracy, blah, blah... CBS news strongly condemned the rhetoric.

 

[ivwshane]

In the near term... which definitely includes after 24 hours in which President Biden will be as informed as anyone.

Like it or not given the recent consternations about the fitness of candidates for one reason or another there will be demands for a verbal statement and probably a few questions.



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He just had a live speech about this.

 

[Viper1j]

They're playing the ss audio from the rally on MSNBC, there was a part that sounded like they said 'shooter is down', wondering if I heard that right.

Yeah, you heard it right. The hero was killed.

 

[BoomerD]

This is the worst thing that could happen to the Biden campaign short of Biden kicking the bucket.

 

[ivwshane]

This is the worst thing that could happen to the Biden campaign short of Biden kicking the bucket.

Not really. You think people are now going to vote for Trump who weren’t previously? All this does is cement his base and their belief that Trump is their savior. For everyone else, it’s shocking but at the same time totally not unexpected.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm no conspiracy theorist but this smacks of a false flag.

 

[K1052]

His on camera statement was good. Compassionate but holding back speculation.

 

[Brovane]

Could they have framed this picture any better?

 

[K1052]

This is the worst thing that could happen to the Biden campaign short of Biden kicking the bucket.

No Trump dying would be worse.

 

[IronWing]

True to form, Biden shows more compassion than Trump.

 

[MrSquished]

Or I guess Biden will deliver remarks on camera shortly.

Well it's definitely past his bedtime

 

[Moonbeam]

His on camera statement was good. Compassionate but holding back speculation.

What did he say, that he wasn't greatly upset that somebody tried to assassinate Putin?

 

[K1052]

If the photos of where the shooter was are accurate the Secret Service fucked up in a ginormous way.

 

[blankslate]

This is the worst thing that could happen to the Biden campaign short of Biden kicking the bucket.

This is the worst thing that can happen in a Presidential campaign because it will add fuel to an already extremely divisive campaign hot with violent rhetoric on mainly one side. And another side rife with internal divisions over some public questions about a candidates mental faculties.

And two people last I heard are dead one it seems a would be Presidential assassin and apparently responsible for the death of a non-involved bystander.


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