Trump refuses to provide proof salary donated as promised

[Doc Savage Fan]

There are not enough facepalms. Documents are not invalid if they aren't printed on legal paper, but to have that quantity of legal documents, especially about real estate, and not have a single one be on legal paper strains credulity.

I review legal documents on a regular basis and many are not written using legal paper dimensions...especially new contracts.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You are so, so impotently angry.

I'm not in any way angry...whatever gave you that impression?

 

[fskimospy]

I review legal documents on a regular basis and many are not written using legal paper dimensions...especially new contracts.

Yes, many are not written on legal paper but plenty still are, especially in real estate. If you had legal documents that when stacked would literally be several feet high presumably involving real estate transactions it is unlikely that not a single one would be on legal paper. Again, it is even more unlikely that if every file folder represented a separate company that all those folders would be unlabeled because...well...duh.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, many are not written on legal paper but plenty still are, especially in real estate. If you had legal documents that when stacked would literally be several feet high presumably involving real estate transactions it is unlikely that not a single one would be on legal paper. Again, it is even more unlikely that if every file folder represented a separate company that all those folders would be unlabeled because...well...duh.

The documents in question would have been recently drafted and I don't believe it would be unreasonable to assume they were all drafted by the same legal firm using the same A4 format which is the prevailing contract format in recent years. Bottom line...you don't know.

 

[jackstar7]

The reality here is that you don't know. Why don't you just stick to facts for a change instead of wading into this kind of horseshit innuendo? It makes you look pathetic.

I know I'm on your ignore list... but good heavens you are fucking stupid.

Consider, if you can, the number of things you do each day without knowing all the facts. Really consider that.

 

[fskimospy]

The documents in question would have been recently drafted and I don't believe it would be unreasonable to assume they were all drafted by the same legal firm using the same A4 format which is the prevailing format. Bottom line...you don't know.

Of course we don't know, which is why I said that we didn't know in my original post. What I did say was what was 'reasonably likely', which is true. Mysterious unlabeled folders that no one can look inside and that lack any and all markings of real legal work are probably just that: not real. This is common sense.

Hell, even if you ignore that example just look at his press stunt prior to that. He tried to pass off steaks he bought from a local butcher as 'Trump Steaks' only he forgot to remove the butcher shop's label. lol. If we've learned one thing about this guy it's that if he's claimed to do something in a press conference I wouldn't trust him even if I had the check in my hands. I'd wait two weeks after deposit to make sure it didn't bounce.

 

[Pens1566]

Wow. Some powerful stoopid on display in this thread.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You are assuming he does the things he does accidentally. Lets dispel this illusion that Trump is stumbling and bumbling around, he knows exactly what he is doing and most of his errors, "failures", or mistakes are 100% intentional and strategic.

Yes, we saw that brilliance during the recent health care victory of Trump and the Republicans.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yes, many are not written on legal paper but plenty still are, especially in real estate. If you had legal documents that when stacked would literally be several feet high presumably involving real estate transactions it is unlikely that not a single one would be on legal paper. Again, it is even more unlikely that if every file folder represented a separate company that all those folders would be unlabeled because...well...duh.

Yes, specifically leases and real estate sales contracts are often on legal sized paper. That's because the software that is used to generate boilerplate contracts spits them out in the traditional legal size. Should have been done away with a long time ago, but for some reason it persists.

 

[brycejones]

Yes, we saw that brilliance during the recent health care victory of Trump and the Republicans.

That was the hugest win ever. It was so bigly it was beyond belief. The grand strategy is all coming together and democrats are being lulled into a false sense of security and then the great and glorious cheeto will pounce like a puma.

Or he is a moron.

Something about a razor seems to apply here.

 

[Fern]

There are not enough facepalms. Documents are not invalid if they aren't printed on legal paper, but to have that quantity of legal documents, especially about real estate, and not have a single one be on legal paper strains credulity.

You're in NY right? Check with them. A number of states no longer accept legal size. I'm looking at a court doc right now (subpoena) and it's A4 (not legal).

I googled and found this forum. If anybody has time to waste read through it and you'll see lawyers from different areas comment on how legal has been being phased for a long time.. And this thread is from 2011: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597406

Also, in my area I don't believe the federal district court here even accepts actual paper. They require cases to be filed digitally. Attorney across the hall from me had to pay for extra bandwidth for uploading.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

You're in NY right? Check with them. A number of states no longer accept legal size. I'm looking at a court doc right now (subpoena) and it's A4 (not legal).

I googled and found this forum. If anybody has time to waste read through it and you'll see lawyers from different areas comment on how legal has been being phased for a long time.. And this thread is from 2011: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597406

Also, in my area I don't believe the federal district court here even accepts actual paper. They require cases to be filed digitally. Attorney across the hall from me had to pay for extra bandwidth for uploading.

Fern

My New York mortgage that I signed in 2014 included plenty of legal sized paper and presumably large amounts of Trump's real estate is in New York. Regardless that's only one reason of many to think those documents were not real.

 

[brandonbull]

You're in NY right? Check with them. A number of states no longer accept legal size. I'm looking at a court doc right now (subpoena) and it's A4 (not legal).

I googled and found this forum. If anybody has time to waste read through it and you'll see lawyers from different areas comment on how legal has been being phased for a long time.. And this thread is from 2011: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597406

Also, in my area I don't believe the federal district court here even accepts actual paper. They require cases to be filed digitally. Attorney across the hall from me had to pay for extra bandwidth for uploading.

Fern

I think he meant that if it's legal and it's on paper = legal paper. So a lot of stuff would be on legal paper and not illegal or undocumented paper. I guess some stuff could be on undocumented paper which does the work that legal paper is unwilling to do.

 

[HomerJS]

In your mind...yes, I can now see that this kind of claptrap would trouble you deeply.

Keep supporting the liar in chief. If you had kids you would never tolerate that mount of lying but you think its ok for POTUS.

 

[agent00f]

Almost spilled my drink. You are so fucking dumb I can't control myself when I read your posts.

LOL @ immaculate conception of dunning kruger posterchild. Keep in mind outside of fellow conservatives people don't take seriously tards without enough rubbable brain cells to figure how timelines work.

I review legal documents on a regular basis and many are not written using legal paper dimensions...especially new contracts.

You're in NY right? Check with them. A number of states no longer accept legal size. I'm looking at a court doc right now (subpoena) and it's A4 (not legal).

I googled and found this forum. If anybody has time to waste read through it and you'll see lawyers from different areas comment on how legal has been being phased for a long time.. And this thread is from 2011: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597406

Also, in my area I don't believe the federal district court here even accepts actual paper. They require cases to be filed digitally. Attorney across the hall from me had to pay for extra bandwidth for uploading.

Fern

Conservatives honing in on the important things after pathetic failure at defending Trump corruption.

 

[mikeymikec]

I know I'm on your ignore list... but good heavens you are fucking stupid.

Consider, if you can, the number of things you do each day without knowing all the facts. Really consider that.

I bet he's never criticised or questioned Obama or Clinton without knowing all the facts.

Headlines read: "Legal systems worldwide ground to halt after forum user declares that without knowing all the facts, everything else is horseshit innuendo"

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Coming back to the main topic, I don't think anyone else has posted this already, but I do find it interesting that Trump's budget proposal apparently cuts $1.5bn from the Interior Department (which funds the national park service amongst other things), the National Park Service's 2016 budget was $3bn, with an estimated $12bn maintenance backlog:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Park_Service

and Trump is generous enough to give them ~$77k afterwards.

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/04/52251...rks-even-as-he-tries-to-cut-interior-departme

As Trump supporters here apparently prefer to ignore the big picture and focus on technical inaccuracies, I've refrained from guestimating the net effect on their budget as a result of Trump's "generosity".


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...al-park-service-after-cutting-funding-by-2bn/

“The Park Service has cared for our parks since 1916, and the President is personally proud to contribute the first quarter of his salary to the important mission of the Park Service, which is preserving our country's national security,” said Spicer.

I wonder if this news has Trumpeteers in a quandary. On one hand, their glorious leader advocated cuts for that department, so it must have been "failing", "not showing results", etc, then on the other hand, he donated a quarter of his salary to it specifically. Is it therefore doubleplusgood or doubleplusungood? Or if he deemed that its budget was surplus to requirements so therefore he cut its budget, why would he then donate to it?

 

[Chiropteran]

Yes, we saw that brilliance during the recent health care victory of Trump and the Republicans.

You are going to feel pretty stupid when the next version is voted into law.

 

[Chiropteran]

That was the hugest win ever. It was so bigly it was beyond belief. The grand strategy is all coming together and democrats are being lulled into a false sense of security and then the great and glorious cheeto will pounce like a puma.

Or he is a moron.

Something about a razor seems to apply here.

Or you could look at history, but I guess left-leaning gives you Alzheimers or something.

 

[brycejones]

Or you could look at history, but I guess left-leaning gives you Alzheimers or something.

Derp

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Just reviewed 3 contracts...all used A4.

 

[brycejones]

Just reviewed 3 contracts...all used A4.

Link?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Link?

lol

 

[Chiropteran]

Derp

Yep, that is how you think.

"Trump won't even run, he is bluffing!"

Wrong

"Trump will get crushed in the primaries!"

Wrong.

"Trump is done, Hillary will destroy him"

Wrong.

"Trump won't actually do the things he promised to do!"

Wrong.

But hey! After being wrong about literally everything, maybe one liberal Trump prediction will actually come true.

 

[brycejones]

Yep, that is how you think.


"Trump won't actually do the things he promised to do!"

Wrong.

Wrong.....

How is the GOP healthcare bill ANYTHING like what Trump promised to do? In case you've forgotten it was going to cost people less, provide coverage for everyone and do more than than the ACA.

 

[kage69]

The donating of $77k to a dept he's cutting by what, $1.5billion?

That's some magnanimous bullshit right there, and look at the easily amused idiots stroking off to it, haha.