Trump refuses to provide proof salary donated as promised

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sdifox

No Lifer
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Since when does declining to offer proof of something mean it didn't happen? If you choose to think he lied and won't be donating his salary, that's up to you but this is a complete non-story. More noise that drowns out rational discussion.


But Trump was the chief Birther. Goose, gander, etc.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
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How are you able to trust ANYTHING he says?

You have your panties in a wad over something that is a non-issue. It is his money to do with as he pleases as long as he doesn't break any law.

Truth-telling is not an important quality, according to a Trump voter; my shock at this revelation equals that of reading the OP. No doubt that when Trump is known to have broken the law, the response will be the same, just with a new "as long as" excuse.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Trumpettes only care about the truth when it involves people or ideology not matching their own....which is basically how many lies can you get away with, you know....corporate american style.
 

boomerang

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Trumpettes only care about the truth when it involves people or ideology not matching their own....which is basically how many lies can you get away with, you know....corporate american style.
Explain to me how it's different with Democrats.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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So, here are the facts: we don't know if he donated his salary or not. If he hasn't, we don't know when he's going to do it, or not do it.

Rrrrrraaaaaaggeee!

I agree with double trouble, you idiots keep raging about this kind of nonsense and then act surprised and dismayed when real news comes up and people simply ignore it because they start tuning out the noise.
 

fskimospy

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It's different with both Republican's not for Trump and Democrats.

Trumpettes are willing accepting straight up lies at this point. Google is your friend.

He appears to think everyone else is just like him. I mean he already said earlier in the thread that he doesn't care what is being said, he only cares about who said it.
 
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fskimospy

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So, here are the facts: we don't know if he donated his salary or not. If he hasn't, we don't know when he's going to do it, or not do it.

Rrrrrraaaaaaggeee!

I agree with double trouble, you idiots keep raging about this kind of nonsense and then act surprised and dismayed when real news comes up and people simply ignore it because they start tuning out the noise.

You realize when you keep concern trolling like this people simply ignore it because they start tuning out the noise, right?
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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It's different with both Republican's not for Trump and Democrats.

Trumpettes are willing accepting straight up lies at this point. Google is your friend.
See, this is why any type of meaningful interaction here is pointless. 0bama told lie after lie after lie and his ardent supporter ate them all up with a big smile. Dem's ran Hillary who has been termed a congenital liar. I would term her as a pathological liar. Fool yourself if you want, it's no skin off my nose.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jan 26, 2000
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So, here are the facts: we don't know if he donated his salary or not. If he hasn't, we don't know when he's going to do it, or not do it.

Rrrrrraaaaaaggeee!

I agree with double trouble, you idiots keep raging about this kind of nonsense and then act surprised and dismayed when real news comes up and people simply ignore it because they start tuning out the noise.

Turning down a salary to donate it is a pretty big thing. Most people wouldn't do it, but if I did I wouldn't mention it to begin with. Why cheapen the act by drawing attention to it? If I were to do the latter though it would be natural to want to know if the boast was based on action. In other words most reasonable people would understand that and provide evidence of a bold and self serving claim.

He won't and so all we have is a bold and self serving claim. There's no evidence that he understands human behaviors or has any empathy beyond what is necessary for predation upon his own species. That's not much to show he has worth as a person.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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You are operating under the impression I voted for Obama. So you can be wrong there.

I also didn't vote for Hilary.

I sit comfortably in a blue state. If I had been in a swing state, I would've been forced to vote for Hilary. Just like the South Park parody, who do you want? The Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich?

Either way, the internet is out there man. It's been explained in quite a few threads here.

Trump supporters operate in a world all their own. Good thing we just handed the keys to the kingdom to the same group of people screwing America for decades.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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So, here are the facts: we don't know if he donated his salary or not. If he hasn't, we don't know when he's going to do it, or not do it.

Rrrrrraaaaaaggeee!

I agree with double trouble, you idiots keep raging about this kind of nonsense and then act surprised and dismayed when real news comes up and people simply ignore it because they start tuning out the noise.
It's just more TDS. They'd go apeshit over the way Trump wipes his ass if they information about it.

It's comical on one level but it's somewhat concerning on a bigger level. It's not normal to fixate on something as trivial as this. Especially when it comes from a media with an agenda as obvious as it can be.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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See, this is why any type of meaningful interaction here is pointless. 0bama told lie after lie after lie and his ardent supporter ate them all up with a big smile. Dem's ran Hillary who has been termed a congenital liar. I would term her as a pathological liar. Fool yourself if you want, it's no skin off my nose.


Dude, that doesn't mean anything. I didn't vote for Hillary either. Hillary lost and the guy who is responsible for the Office is no one but Trump. I can't fault anyone if I don't hold everyone to the same equal standard. Trump is failing. History is another matter.
 

bshole

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See, this is why any type of meaningful interaction here is pointless. 0bama told lie after lie after lie and his ardent supporter ate them all up with a big smile. Dem's ran Hillary who has been termed a congenital liar. I would term her as a pathological liar. Fool yourself if you want, it's no skin off my nose.

Trump is in a class by himself. No president in history is remotely similar.

But White House scholars and other students of government agree there has never been a president like Donald Trump, whose volume of falsehoods, misstatements and serial exaggerations — on matters large and wincingly small — place him “in a class by himself,” as Texas A&M’s George Edwards put it.

“He is by far the most mendacious president in American history,” said Edwards, a political scientist who edits the scholarly journal Presidential Studies Quarterly. (His assessment takes in the whole of Trump’s hyperbolic history, as the former real estate developer and reality TV personality has only been in office since Jan. 20.)

Edwards then amended his assertion.

“I say ‘mendacious,’ which implies that he’s knowingly lying. That may be unfair,” Edwards said. “He tells more untruths than any president in American history.”

The caveat underscores the fraught use of the L-word, requiring, as it does, the certainty that someone is consciously presenting something as true that they know to be false. While there may be plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest a person is lying, short of crawling inside their head it is difficult to say with absolutely certainty.

When Trump incessantly talks of rampant voter fraud, boasts about the size of his inaugural audience or claims to have seen thousands of people on rooftops in New Jersey celebrating the Sept. 11 attacks, all are demonstrably false. “But who can say if he actually believes it,” asked Lewis, “or whether he’s gotten the information from some less-than-reliable news site?”

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-presidential-lies-2017-story.html
 

fskimospy

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Trump is in a class by himself. No president in history is remotely similar.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-presidential-lies-2017-story.html

It's interesting that conservatives keep insisting that Trump's rampant, pathological lying is somehow normal or no different than usual. He's only been in office two months, meaning they had an easy comparison case in recent memory. While Obama certainly told lies while in office, it was nothing compared to this. Not even close.

I guess those are the wages of partisanship. Rather than admit conservatives foolishly chose to support a congenital liar they need to convince themselves that it's all really the same for everyone.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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I hate Trump as much as anyone (well, maybe not as much as Melania, but that's a different topic). I read this article this morning and I admit, I'm not going to go off the deep end on this one.... yet.
The donation could still be forthcoming at year end or quarter end etc. It would not shock me if he didn't' donate the salary and income from his hotels as he promised -- he's broken a million promises already so these "minor" ones wouldn't shock me. I will wait until the dust settles before I cast stones at him on this.

PS: He's still a useless bag of skin.

PPS: A SMART person and/or administration would have made it public as soon as he received that first check and made a news article about him donating it. It could have even been an exclusive of Fox and Friends!
 

bshole

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It's just more TDS. They'd go apeshit over the way Trump wipes his ass if they information about it.

It's comical on one level but it's somewhat concerning on a bigger level. It's not normal to fixate on something as trivial as this. Especially when it comes from a media with an agenda as obvious as it can be.

Trump was the asshole bragging about donating his salary. Something he clearly intends NOT to do. He wants the credit for things he says he going to do without regard to whether he does them or not. It could all be a smokescreen to distract America while he dismantles everything. If so, it is working to perfection.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
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He's a republican. Republicans don't mind when other republicans tell lies because those lies are for the good of the people.
 
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boomerang

Lifer
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Dude, that doesn't mean anything. I didn't vote for Hillary either. Hillary lost and the guy who is responsible for the Office is no one but Trump. I can't fault anyone if I don't hold everyone to the same equal standard. Trump is failing. History is another matter.
It's snowing here.

If you want to proclaim you hold everyone to the same standard I'm not going to take the time to argue one way or another. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the Trump Derangement Syndrome devotees who are very, very willing to operate under a double standard. You are more than bright enough to comprehend that.

We survived eight years of 0bama and we'll survive Trump. I survived Carter and that was pretty much the worst time imaginable. Presidents come and president's go and the gears, they just keep meshing. Every once in a while somebody comes along that wants to upset the apple cart. It's nothing new.

Whether the left wants to admit it or not, (I know, they don't) they put Trump in office. That's a difficult thing for them to come to grips with, I understand. But if the Democrat Party had made life better for the majority of our citizens, they'd be riding high in April. They'd have gained a slew of seats from sea to shining sea as well as the highest position in the land. Instead it was the opposite and they'll be blaming everybody else for their failures from here to eternity. That doesn't mean I have to like hearing it though.

I'll keep my eyes open for the Trump ass-wiping thread. It's just a matter of time before it shows up.
 

fskimospy

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I hate Trump as much as anyone (well, maybe not as much as Melania, but that's a different topic). I read this article this morning and I admit, I'm not going to go off the deep end on this one.... yet.
The donation could still be forthcoming at year end or quarter end etc. It would not shock me if he didn't' donate the salary and income from his hotels as he promised -- he's broken a million promises already so these "minor" ones wouldn't shock me. I will wait until the dust settles before I cast stones at him on this.

PS: He's still a useless bag of skin.

PPS: A SMART person and/or administration would have made it public as soon as he received that first check and made a news article about him donating it. It could have even been an exclusive of Fox and Friends!

Reporting like this is important because it has actually worked in the past. If you read his history of 'charitable giving' you see that in many (most?) instances he would pledge money, reap the good publicity, and then never actually donate. It was just another scam.

Last year when he pledged a million dollars to veterans charities he never actually followed through until the media uncovered that he hadn't donated a dime. Then of course he conveniently donated the money a few days later and proclaimed that had been the plan all along. (Lol) Without good reporting those charities would probably still be waiting for that money.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Trump was the asshole bragging about donating his salary. Something he clearly intends NOT to do. He wants the credit for things he says he going to do without regard to whether he does them or not. It could all be a smokescreen to distract America while he dismantles everything. If so, it is working to perfection.
Yeah, that's probably it. Have you ever heard people refer to you as a savant?

What's really a shame is that so many can't read an article and identify the bias within it. Can't comprehend where the line exists between factual reporting and partisan spin. Point out where in the article in the OP says that Trump has not donated his salary and for bonus points where Trump (or one of his reps) says he won't. The article insinuates (you can look that word up if you need to) things, the question is why you have decided to interpret them the way you do.

This could be a big deal for you. Best of luck.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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Reporting like this is important because it has actually worked in the past. If you read his history of 'charitable giving' you see that in many (most?) instances he would pledge money, reap the good publicity, and then never actually donate. It was just another scam.

Last year when he pledged a million dollars to veterans charities he never actually followed through until the media uncovered that he hadn't donated a dime. Then of course he conveniently donated the money a few days later and proclaimed that had been the plan all along. (Lol) Without good reporting those charities would probably still be waiting for that money.

Oh, I'm not harping on the reporting itself. I'm just saying I'm not going to say "See!!! He's the liar (in regards to this topic) we all said he was!"... yet. I'm all for the reporting and keeping his feet to the flames on EVERYTHING. I honestly don't think the press is doing enough to keep every story on the front burner (I realize this is an impossibility with all the bullshit flying around).
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Yeah, that's probably it. Have you ever heard people refer to you as a savant?

What's really a shame is that so many can't read an article and identify the bias within it. Can't comprehend where the line exists between factual reporting and partisan spin. Point out where in the article in the OP says that Trump has not donated his salary and for bonus points where Trump (or one of his reps) says he won't. The article insinuates (you can look that word up if you need to) things, the question is why you have decided to interpret them the way you do.

This could be a big deal for you. Best of luck.

Thanks for being such a great poster child for how twisted extreme partisanship can make someone's mind. The article doesn't say he has not donated his salary because you can't prove a negative. What it does say is that there is no evidence he has done as much and he refuses to provide any. It's literally straight factual reporting.

It really is a shame that so many can't read an article and comprehend where the line exists between factual reporting and partisan spin. You are one of those people and apparently don't realize it.
 

bshole

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Mar 12, 2013
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Yeah, that's probably it. Have you ever heard people refer to you as a savant?

What's really a shame is that so many can't read an article and identify the bias within it. Can't comprehend where the line exists between factual reporting and partisan spin. Point out where in the article in the OP says that Trump has not donated his salary and for bonus points where Trump (or one of his reps) says he won't. The article insinuates (you can look that word up if you need to) things, the question is why you have decided to interpret them the way you do.

This could be a big deal for you. Best of luck.

The guy said he was going to release his tax forms for damn near a year before he changed his mind. If you want to believe that perhaps the most selfish money grubbing scum in the world is going to give money away for free, knock yourself out. Frankly Trump has broken my reality meter so badly that I have no idea what he intends to do other than enrich himself. I certainly can't base my predictions on Trump's statements because they rarely have any meaningful correlation to reality.

For example, Trump said he was going to drain the swamp. What did he do? He filled his cabinet with predatory BILLIONAIRES. That is the exact opposite of draining the swamp. That it the exact opposite of what any voter wanted him to do. It was an open declaration of war on the middle class and an acceleration of the looting of America.
 
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