Trump reimbursed Cohen for $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

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K1052

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Odds it has a private arbitration clause are probably close to 100%.

I'm sure it does. Though I have faith that he or his attorney would find some way to fuck that up and end up in court.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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If you have time watch the talking heads online. Avenatti was on MSNBC and Rudy seems to have tried to protect the NDA at the expense of definite legal peril by "structuring" payments, a criminal act, and in no way does the source of the hush money change the core campaign violation issues. Trump is facing an existing noose that Rudy has lined with broken glass.
 

fskimospy

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If you have time watch the talking heads online. Avenatti was on MSNBC and Rudy seems to have tried to protect the NDA at the expense of definite legal peril by "structuring" payments, a criminal act, and in no way does the source of the hush money change the core campaign violation issues. Trump is facing an existing noose that Rudy has lined with broken glass.

It’s also hard to see how this helps Trump’s case for sticking to arbitration that much. He has specific commitments in the agreement that he must be aware of and adhere to. Some sort of general arrangement with Cohen doesn’t make him aware of those commitments so again, contract not binding. He was either fully aware of and participated in the agreement, in which case it’s probably binding, or he wasn’t. There’s no middle ground.

Also, anyone else notice Trump has to pay people money for their silence so often that he has a running account with Cohen where he can’t even bother to get into the particulars of any given case? Wtf. This is a massive, massive national security threat.
 

Greenman

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Haha wow. Just come clean and say "I lied", no backing out now. How the hell is Melania still with him. Take half his shit and leave
Prenup. She probably gets a couple hundred grand and that's it.

The whole thing reminds me of when Clinton was banging Lewinsky, he lied about it, got caught red handed, and half the country didn't care. The major difference being Lewinsky didn't blackmail Clinton after doing the deed.
 

R0H1T

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So Putin still has the Moscow tapes or would they be worthless atm, considering the unraveling of Trump by his own (tiny) hands
 

fskimospy

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Prenup. She probably gets a couple hundred grand and that's it.

The whole thing reminds me of when Clinton was banging Lewinsky, he lied about it, got caught red handed, and half the country didn't care. The major difference being Lewinsky didn't blackmail Clinton after doing the deed.

It’s odd that Republicans keep bringing up a scandal that ended in impeachment as a defense for Trump, haha. I mean just how much criminal activity do you think this guy is up to?
 

thilanliyan

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Prenup. She probably gets a couple hundred grand and that's it.

The whole thing reminds me of when Clinton was banging Lewinsky, he lied about it, got caught red handed, and half the country didn't care. The major difference being Lewinsky didn't blackmail Clinton after doing the deed.
Yeah, I'm guessing she would have already filed for divorce if it didn't mean it was detrimental to either her or the kid. She will probably get a lot more the longer she stays.
 

HomerJS

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I'll take a bet 3 prisoners being held in NK will be released by the weekend to take this stuff off the headlines. Or at least off the Fox headlines. BTW - How is Fox spinning all these lies?
 

fskimospy

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So Putin still has the Moscow tapes or would they be worthless atm, considering the unraveling of Trump by his own (tiny) hands

I honestly wonder if it would really matter much if the pee tape is real. That Trump is a pathological liar is already common knowledge, that he’s childish, petty, and vindictive is also common knowledge. What else would the pee tape really tell us? The only thing I can think of is that it would make me wonder what other compromising information the Russians have on him.

It’s consostently amazing to me how low the standards for the presidency have become. We would never have accepted someone like this in the past.
 

Greenman

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It’s odd that Republicans keep bringing up a scandal that ended in impeachment as a defense for Trump, haha. I mean just how much criminal activity do you think this guy is up to?
Clinton didn't get impeached for having sex with Lewinsky, and it's not a defense of Trump. I do find it amusing that with Clinton the R's were howling about it, and the D's said it was a personal matter. Now it's the D's having a fit and the R's ignoring it.
 

dank69

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Clinton didn't get impeached for having sex with Lewinsky, and it's not a defense of Trump. I do find it amusing that with Clinton the R's were howling about it, and the D's said it was a personal matter. Now it's the D's having a fit and the R's ignoring it.
Please show us all the D's having a fit about his having an affair.
 

HomerJS

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I honestly wonder if it would really matter much if the pee tape is real. That Trump is a pathological liar is already common knowledge, that he’s childish, petty, and vindictive is also common knowledge. What else would the pee tape really tell us? The only thing I can think of is that it would make me wonder what other compromising information the Russians have on him.

It’s consostently amazing to me how low the standards for the presidency have become. We would never have accepted someone like this in the past.
Yet it was the Negro ruining our country /s
 

Jaskalas

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Prenup. She probably gets a couple hundred grand and that's it.

The whole thing reminds me of when Clinton was banging Lewinsky, he lied about it, got caught red handed, and half the country didn't care. The major difference being Lewinsky didn't blackmail Clinton after doing the deed.

Fair comparison, although in that case it was a boss going after an employee.
 

HomerJS

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Clinton didn't get impeached for having sex with Lewinsky, and it's not a defense of Trump. I do find it amusing that with Clinton the R's were howling about it, and the D's said it was a personal matter. Now it's the D's having a fit and the R's ignoring it.
D's have stated the sex is a personal matter. The 130K paid as an in kind campaign contribution is the problem here.
 

fskimospy

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Clinton didn't get impeached for having sex with Lewinsky, and it's not a defense of Trump. I do find it amusing that with Clinton the R's were howling about it, and the D's said it was a personal matter. Now it's the D's having a fit and the R's ignoring it.

If you actually go back and look at what happened this is not true. Democrats were intensely critical of Clinton during that time they just (correctly) said it didn’t merit impeachment. I’m not aware of a single democrat who wants to impeach Trump over Stormy Daniels. Republicans, on the other hand, did. We now have substantial evidence of a felony campaign finance violation by Trump made in order to cover up an affair.

Trump should unquestionably be impeached and removed from office but that is for the criminal activity he has engaged in while using the powers of his office and potentially the criminal activity he engaged in to win office, not some affair.
 

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I honestly wonder if it would really matter much if the pee tape is real. That Trump is a pathological liar is already common knowledge, that he’s childish, petty, and vindictive is also common knowledge. What else would the pee tape really tell us? The only thing I can think of is that it would make me wonder what other compromising information the Russians have on him.

It’s consostently amazing to me how low the standards for the presidency have become. We would never have accepted someone like this in the past.
They could be the ultimate link in the Russian (election) collusion hypothesis, would explain the hold Putin may have on Trump. There's also possibly the much bigger issue of treason, so if the tapes are really there then it could be easier for Mueller prove his case, whatever case he's building.
 

Greenman

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Please show us all the D's having a fit about his having an affair.
Just read P&N. Heck just read this thread.
The reality is no one gives a shit that Trump was shagging a prostitute, or that she extorted a $130k out of him. We just need something to hang a charge on. I have no issue with that at all, but lets be up front about it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I honestly wonder if it would really matter much if the pee tape is real. That Trump is a pathological liar is already common knowledge, that he’s childish, petty, and vindictive is also common knowledge. What else would the pee tape really tell us? The only thing I can think of is that it would make me wonder what other compromising information the Russians have on him.

It’s consostently amazing to me how low the standards for the presidency have become. We would never have accepted someone like this in the past.

Trump now confessed to his actions regarding the payoff to Stormy in which Rudy at the very least describes "structuring" by emphasizing payments over months, which I believe eclipses in severity presumed campaign violations. Trump is caught in an unambiguous lie with saying "no" aboard AF1 and now saying "I paid the money".

Unless there are substantial illegalities in the tape, being "Golden Shower Man" is nothing. We're already way beyond that possibly causing real damage.
 
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