Trump releases one of most racist political adverts for decades on eve of election

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brandonbull

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and the fake video about selling aborted fetus parts.

and his many fake phone calls in an attempt to "cvck" journalists that were reporting on him. ...he's just not very good at it. He's made himself famous as an incompetent creator of laughably amateur nonsense "sting" propaganda. But he keeps trying, because he is convinced (and for good reason), that the people that support him are actually dumber than he is. See: Brandonbull.
Ahh. The king of Whataboutism. Is the video and the stories about recently dismissed members of Gillum's campaign staff false?
 

HomerJS

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Phoney video? I wonder if Omar Smith is still on Gillum's campaign staff? What's Manny Orozco-Ballestas doing for Gillum these days? Typical Progresshevik. When presented with evidence, respond with ridicule.
Can you follow the bouncing ball? How much of it does O'Keefe have?

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Amused

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Trump’s new immigration ad was panned as racist. Turns out it was also based on a falsehood.

“Democrats let him into our country,” the ad’s script reads. “Democrats let him stay.”

Bracamontes, who had been deported multiple times before his crime rampage, appears to have last entered the country while George W. Bush was president, sometime between May 2001 and February 2002.

The ad also failed to mention that in 1998, Bracamontes was arrested on drug charges in Phoenix, then released by the office of then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for unknown reasons.

As usual, Trump is entirely full of shit.

And as usual, his base falls for it hook, line and sinker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...xsuE0MCE&noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a380c7d3530
 

Fenixgoon

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Trump’s new immigration ad was panned as racist. Turns out it was also based on a falsehood.

“Democrats let him into our country,” the ad’s script reads. “Democrats let him stay.”

Bracamontes, who had been deported multiple times before his crime rampage, appears to have last entered the country while George W. Bush was president, sometime between May 2001 and February 2002.

The ad also failed to mention that in 1998, Bracamontes was arrested on drug charges in Phoenix, then released by the office of then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for unknown reasons.

As usual, Trump is entirely full of shit.

And as usual, his base falls for it hook, line and sinker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...xsuE0MCE&noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a380c7d3530

but i thought trump likes to tell the truth? /s
 

Meghan54

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How about you comment on the subject of the thread? Are you incapable of that?

It's not that he's incapable of commenting on the subject of the thread, but it means actually discussing facts instead of feelz. Then he couldn't continue his intellectual dishonesty and his trolling would have to cease.
 
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Your post was intentionally misleading & distractionary. Dems didn't start anything wrt Bracamontes, the subject of Trump's video. It attempts to stir the same sort of racial animosity as the Willie Horton ads of 1988, which was 30 years ago. It's the same as the Yellow Peril routine of the late1800's, the anti-Irish routine of the 1840's & the anti-semitic sentiment at the beginning of WW2. Only the targets have changed.
No, my post was absolutely factual. Where was it wrong or misleading?
 

Atreus21

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What about the subject of the thread?

The subject of the thread, as written in the OP, included characterizing whole groups of people according to the actions of one. Trump's ad, at the very least, used a real example of a monster. The Virginia anti-Gillespie ad made one up and said Republicans are gunning for minority children in the street.
 

brycejones

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The subject of the thread, as written in the OP, included characterizing whole groups of people according to the actions of one. Trump's ad, at the very least, used a real example of a monster. The Virginia anti-Gillespie ad made one up and said Republicans are gunning for minority children in the street.

No the subject of the thread is an ad released by our current Presidet. It was compared to another ad released by a presidential campaign. And your reaction is basically "what about that time some fringe group released an ad".
 

woolfe9998

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The subject of the thread, as written in the OP, included characterizing whole groups of people according to the actions of one. Trump's ad, at the very least, used a real example of a monster. The Virginia anti-Gillespie ad made one up and said Republicans are gunning for minority children in the street.

He used a real one but lied about the entire thing, claiming "democrats" let him in when in fact he came in during the Bush presidency.

The ad you linked isn't making any such claim. It's a dream sequence, a warning of potential future consequences. You can agree or disagree with the warning, but either way it contains no lies.
 

Atreus21

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He used a real one but lied about the entire thing, claiming "democrats" let him in when in fact he came in during the Bush presidency.

That wasn't the objection raised in the OP, which is what I was challenged to address. The OP said "this is an attempt to rally his base by portraying Central American migrants as police killers set to overrun the country."

Whereas the anti-gillespie ad portrayed all white Republicans as hunters and murderers of minority children.

The ad you linked isn't making any such claim. It's a dream sequence, a warning of potential future consequences. You can agree or disagree with the warning, but either way it contains no lies.

You don't think its dishonest to portray republicans in the manner it does?

Trumps ad was racist and unfair and nasty and dishonest. But we cannot honestly condemn it in the same breath that we defend the Virginia ad I linked.
 
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Jhhnn

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That wasn't the objection raised in the OP, which is what I was challenged to address. The OP said "this is an attempt to rally his base by portraying Central American migrants as police killers set to overrun the country."

Whereas the anti-gillespie ad portrayed all white Republicans as hunters and murderers of minority children.



You don't think its dishonest to portray republicans in the manner it does?

While the ad was anti-Gillespie it came from an independent group, free to say anything they want. The racist fearmongering about Bracamontes came directly from Trump.

The difference is obvious. Your bothsiderism fails miserably.
 
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HomerJS

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Imagine if a black Democrat ran an ad featuring the synagogue shooter Robert Bowers and said we need an FBI investigation of white males in the US the outrage would be voluminous.
 

Amused

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I wonder if anyone remembers this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVckRJvuBQY

Ya know, after the last week or so, is that ad really wrong?

A white supremacist killed 11 people in a synagogue.

Another white supremacist tried to enter a black church, and when he couldn't went and killed 2 black people in a store before he was stopped.

Way to step on your own dick there is an amusingly failed whataboutism.
 

brycejones

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Ya know, after the last week or so, is that ad really wrong?

A white supremacist killed 11 people in a synagogue.

Another white supremacist tried to enter a black church, and when he couldn't went and killed 2 black people in a store before he was stopped.

Way to step on your own dick there is an amusingly failed whataboutism.

Yeah but were any of them Latino? The ad was about racists chasing down Latinos.

/s
 

fskimospy

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That wasn't the objection raised in the OP, which is what I was challenged to address. The OP said "this is an attempt to rally his base by portraying Central American migrants as police killers set to overrun the country."

Whereas the anti-gillespie ad portrayed all white Republicans as hunters and murderers of minority children.



You don't think its dishonest to portray republicans in the manner it does?

Trumps ad was racist and unfair and nasty and dishonest. But we cannot honestly condemn it in the same breath that we defend the Virginia ad I linked.

Can you just admit the president released an ad filled with insanely racist lies?

He’s a national disgrace, no? Surely at this point you can’t still be voting for republicans.
 

Atreus21

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Ya know, after the last week or so, is that ad really wrong?

A white supremacist killed 11 people in a synagogue.

Another white supremacist tried to enter a black church, and when he couldn't went and killed 2 black people in a store before he was stopped.

Way to step on your own dick there is an amusingly failed whataboutism.

If that's your standard, Trump's ad is just as valid, as Luis Bracamontes killed two cops and bragged about killing more.
 

fskimospy

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If that's your standard, Trump's ad is just as valid, as Luis Bracamontes killed two cops and bragged about killing more.

And Trump’s ad lied about the circumstances a lot.

It’s worrying that even when Trump makes obvious, brazen lies on a daily basis that it’s a struggle to get people to overcome partisanship enough to admit that.
 
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