Trump Responds To Slain Soldier's Father, Who Appeals To GOP Leaders

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michal1980

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I believe your question was addressed pages ago but you just chose to ignore the answer because it didn't fit with your cop o rage for the day. So no I am not playing the explain to the idiot who ignores the answer anyway game with you. btw this thread is about what trump said but you keep trying to change the subject yet another example of your dishonesty.

sorry not answered.

And nice divert at the end. What Kahns did is directly related to what trump said. But then again expecting you on the left to ever be honest is too much.
 

michal1980

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You don't know what callow means. But that's okay, because ignorance is a strength!

Just like Uncle Donnie you deflect from your weakness and yell about grieving parents.

Seems about right, you petulant noise machine.

1 I know what callow means.

2 your side is deflecting, but that's because you know you cannot answer why people that are grieving should be given a free pass to make political statements.
 

jackstar7

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1 I know what callow means.

2 your side is deflecting, but that's because you know you cannot answer why people that are grieving should be given a free pass to make political statements.

I bet you have small hands, too. That builds a lot of empathy with Uncle Donnie.

If you weren't callow, you'd have no problems with your second question.
 

HTFOff

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Nope the big takeaway here is the Streisand effect is real. If trump had let the sleeping dog lie and moved on this would have been just another minor speech at a political convention. Instead cheeto Jesus couldn't let it go and has now been roundly criticized from all sides of the political spectrum. While at the same time claiming working to be rich is the same as dying for your country in terms of sacrifice.

But hey keep on keeping on.

There is no denying the fact that trump took the bait. He's not a walking, talking focus group a'la clinton. Which is probably the reason he is where he is at this point in time.
 
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sorry not answered.

And nice divert at the end. What Kahns did is directly related to what trump said. But then again expecting you on the left to ever be honest is too much.

no duh it's about what drumpf said. if the bloated orange fleshbag would not have gone on such a nonsensical assault on all muslims this wouldn't have been an issue, but he did and it is.
You can't postulate and come off as a tough-guy, hard-ass, take all comers and leave 'em weeping kind of man and then whine like a cowering puppy when you're called on not being anywhere near that kind of man.
Cannot have it both ways, you figure drumpf, in all his dealings over these many years would have figured that out by now, unless, maybe, it was all a charade and he's just really fucking lucky in his genetic lottery.
 

jackstar7

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There is no denying the fact that trump took the bait. He's not a walking, talking focus group a'la clinton. Which is probably the reason he is where he is at this point in time.

Weakness is Strength! Trump '16!
 

brycejones

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There is no denying the fact that trump took the bait. He's not a walking, talking focus group a'la clinton. Which is probably the reason he is where he is at this point in time.

It has to do with being a decent human being with the temperament for the job. If he thinks the race is difficult and acts like this how will he react over four years to every perceived slight? This is a fine example of how the man is not ready for the job.
 

Jhhnn

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and that has what to do with Kahn calling out just the republican running for office?

He takes Trump's raving bigotry against Muslims in general personally because his son died fighting for this country that he loved while protecting his comrades in arms.

Have you seen Hillary besmirching this woman?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/benghazi...n-i-was-treated-like-dirt-by-hillary-clinton/

Clinton won't take the bait because it's poison. There are times when a politician just has to take it. Trump can't do that. It's not part of his so-called character.
 

VRAMdemon

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1 I know what callow means.

2 your side is deflecting, but that's because you know you cannot answer why people that are grieving should be given a free pass to make political statements.

If you really believe that...then I'm sure you will agree that a grieving Benghazi Mom up on stage, directly blaming Clinton for the death of her son, calling for her to be in prison, should not be given a free pass to make political statements.

BTW...if we as a nation are going to be calling for state officials to be thrown in prison for mistakes made - failed military operations overseas...maybe we should round em all up..lets start in Texas,Wyoming and wherever Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Powell are residing these days.

I can imagine all the the classified info flying around on those private email servers.

Meh..Trump made is bed, now he has to lie in it.

He's has been dog-whistling people of color and specific religions during his campaign from the start. It's bound that some, who love America and have sacrificed for America are going to speak up.
 

Jhhnn

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There is no denying the fact that trump took the bait. He's not a walking, talking focus group a'la clinton. Which is probably the reason he is where he is at this point in time.

It doesn't take a focus group to see that he's a shameless buffoon lacking in common sense & decency. For that & a lot of reasons he's utterly unfit to be the leader of the Free World.
 

agent00f

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That has been far from true for a very long time now.

No, it's pretty much still true. With relatively few exceptions of legacy admission and some decent officer schools, it's still largely a way for the lower classes to make something of themselves. There's nothing wrong with that, and rather something which should be applauded at least economically.

Their son's sacrifice does not excuse an attempt by others to make our country harbor and suffer Islamic terrorism.

American-born children of immigrants proving fruitful recruiting ground for jihad in U.S.


Democrats slander the effort as "ban all Muslims", when it is to take action to reduce the importation of extremism and terrorism which is becoming commonplace. Our melting pot needs to be restored to reduce, not grow, ethnic enclaves. And Middle East locations with support for ISIS need to be physically severed from the internet.

Islamic terrorism is a disease and it needs a full scale effort to combat it. The least of which is immediate quarantine until more effective measures are in place.

Just FYI, the Washington Times isn't a real paper. It's korean church propaganda turned right wing mouthpiece. It tends to get sourced a lot by people who don't know better because the name sounds convincing.
 

agent00f

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What emotional garbage.

Why should grieving family be given a free pass for being partisan hacks.

I wont hold my breath for a logical answer because you don't have one.

You support these partisan attacks because they are on your side.

If the grieving parents want to be left alone, they shouldn't go in front of the country attacking a presidential candidate.

He's up there because Trump is attacking muslims and his son is a perfect counterexample of a noteworthy american. It doesn't hurt that it's a sympathetic case, which when attacked by dummies tends to case them in a poor light.

Honestly it's not that hard to figure out, but trump's insecurity just can't let this slight go which will be his downfall in the campaign. Many of his supporters might not care about facts & such, but acting so petty & vindictive when you're supposed to be this alpha strongman goes too far.
 

squarecut1

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Squarecut1, the mother of U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, who died during the 2012 Benghazi attacks, penned a short letter to the editor of The New York Times asking that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and the GOP stop invoking her son’s death.

“As Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens’s mother, I am writing to object to any mention of his name and death in Benghazi, Libya, by Donald Trump’s campaign and the Republican Party.

I know for certain that Chris would not have wanted his name or memory used in that connection. I hope that there will be an immediate and permanent stop to this opportunistic and cynical use by the campaign.”

Here you have someone who is actively TELLING Trump to stop.

Then you have the mother Patricia Smith, whose son Sean Smith was one of the four Benghazi victims, gave a speech in which she declared, ” I blame Hillary Clinton personally for the death of my son.”

Is the irony lost here, too? Is THIS mother not also campaigning for a creature who only cares for what best suits him politically Or is your ire only selective...

I think you missed my first line. Trump is what he is. No need to even go there. He is a piece of turd.

But it is distasteful for this Khan guy to use his son's death to campaign for someone as unscrupulous and war hungry as Hillary Clinton - a creature who will do anything to further her career. Should the father not be asking Hillary - how do you feel about voting for a war based on lies, because that was the political flavor at that time? Do you feel you should feel remorse for the death of my son? Obama to his credit voted against that, and so did many others. But conscience and Hillary - they are mutually exclusive.
 

MongGrel

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I think you missed my first line. Trump is what he is. No need to even go there. He is a piece of turd.

But it is distasteful for this Khan guy to use his son's death to campaign for someone as unscrupulous and war hungry as Hillary Clinton - a creature who will do anything to further her career. Should the father not be asking Hillary - how do you feel about voting for a war based on lies, because that was the political flavor at that time? Do you feel you should feel remorse for the death of my son? Obama to his credit voted against that, and so did many others. But conscience and Hillary - they are mutually exclusive.

You are just repeating yourself at this point.
 

Jhhnn

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I think you missed my first line. Trump is what he is. No need to even go there. He is a piece of turd.

But it is distasteful for this Khan guy to use his son's death to campaign for someone as unscrupulous and war hungry as Hillary Clinton - a creature who will do anything to further her career. Should the father not be asking Hillary - how do you feel about voting for a war based on lies, because that was the political flavor at that time? Do you feel you should feel remorse for the death of my son? Obama to his credit voted against that, and so did many others. But conscience and Hillary - they are mutually exclusive.

Gawd. Iraq was Dubya's war, not Hillary's. She said she trusted him to do the right thing. He lied.

Obama didn't vote on the Iraq war resolution because he wasn't in the Senate until 2005.
 

squarecut1

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Gawd. Iraq was Dubya's war, not Hillary's. She said she trusted him to do the right thing. He lied.

Obama didn't vote on the Iraq war resolution because he wasn't in the Senate until 2005.

Yes, voted technically not the right word. But Obama was forcefully against the Iraq war from the beginning. Many leading Democrats voted against it.

Yes, it was Dubya's war, but Hillary supported it because that was where the wind was blowing those days, with the hysteria and all among the people, all those dangerous WMDs which were going to finish off the earth and what not.

How about Libya? Even Obama has admitted it was a mistake. And of course Hillary had a leading part in it.

Point is, Hillary stands for nothing. TPP was the "gold standard" of trade deals for her, until it wasn't. And on and on. As an Obama ad once said - Hillary will say anything and change nothing. Except that will she change things - for the worse.

If the father had said all that he did at the nomination of Sanders, it would have been fine. But supporting Hillary? Yikes!
 

Jhhnn

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Yes, voted technically not the right word. But Obama was forcefully against the Iraq war from the beginning. Many leading Democrats voted against it.

Yes, it was Dubya's war, but Hillary supported it because that was where the wind was blowing those days, with the hysteria and all among the people, all those dangerous WMDs which were going to finish off the earth and what not.

How about Libya? Even Obama has admitted it was a mistake. And of course Hillary had a leading part in it.

Point is, Hillary stands for nothing. TPP was the "gold standard" of trade deals for her, until it wasn't. And on and on. As an Obama ad once said - Hillary will say anything and change nothing. Except that will she change things - for the worse.

If the father had said all that he did at the nomination of Sanders, it would have been fine. But supporting Hillary? Yikes!

Hurfity-burf-burf-burf.

Gold Star families have unusual license in our society, as they should. Khan can say anything he fucking wants with complete impunity from any politician who doesn't have shit for brains. The Benghazi mother campaigning for Trump has the same license.
 

michal1980

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If you really believe that...then I'm sure you will agree that a grieving Benghazi Mom up on stage, directly blaming Clinton for the death of her son, calling for her to be in prison, should not be given a free pass to make political statements.

BTW...if we as a nation are going to be calling for state officials to be thrown in prison for mistakes made - failed military operations overseas...maybe we should round em all up..lets start in Texas,Wyoming and wherever Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Powell are residing these days.

I can imagine all the the classified info flying around on those private email servers.

Meh..Trump made is bed, now he has to lie in it.

He's has been dog-whistling people of color and specific religions during his campaign from the start. It's bound that some, who love America and have sacrificed for America are going to speak up.

I think if people go on stage and attack other people for their politics they are opening themselves up to be criticized.
 

UberNeuman

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I think if people go on stage and attack other people for their politics they are opening themselves up to be criticized.

And likewise.... Enjoy the shitstorm.

/attack all you want - stop being a wise and beautiful woman when it's thrown back in your face....
 
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jman19

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Hurfity-burf-burf-burf.

Gold Star families have unusual license in our society, as they should. Khan can say anything he fucking wants with complete impunity from any politician who doesn't have shit for brains. The Benghazi mother campaigning for Trump has the same license.

What more do you expect from the AT P&N armchair brigade?
 
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I think if people go on stage and attack other people for their politics they are opening themselves up to be criticized.

for once we agree. especially at something as public of stage as a national convention. HOWEVER, if you are stupid, vain, and enough of a megalomaniac to attack parents of fallen soldier, who, if I am reading this correctly is a bona fide hero of the utmost order, then prepare for your own (and very deserved) backlash.

buckle up buttercup, your horse may not be shot by the time this race is over. but glue manufacturers will be bidding on his corpse before it's over.
 

JSt0rm

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I think if people go on stage and attack other people for their politics they are opening themselves up to be criticized.

Luckily your boy trump is there to do the fighting against these evil Muslim Americans.
 

Perknose

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for once we agree. especially at something as public of stage as a national convention. HOWEVER, if you are stupid, vain, and enough of a megalomaniac to attack parents of fallen soldier, who, if I am reading this correctly is a bona fide hero of the utmost order, then prepare for your own (and very deserved) backlash.

buckle up buttercup, your horse may not be shot by the time this race is over. but glue manufacturers will be bidding on his corpse before it's over.

:thumbsup:
 

Rhonda the Sly

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Here's my beef on Khan v Trump:

The Khans are, as has been well noted, the parents of a fallen soldier and that, in our society, affords him some amount if respect.

Why did Trump have to go after Khzir's wife, floating the thought she had nothing to say? Why did he go after their religion, implying that "maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say" then ridiculously backing out up work his usual "A lot of people have said that." Why did Trump bother to compare his having his (admittedly likely difficult and time consuming) job to the death of a soldier in a family. Why bother with the "who wrote that comment?"

He could have simply used a boilerplate response and been done with it but he seems to prefer the path of most resistance.

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