Trump Responds To Slain Soldier's Father, Who Appeals To GOP Leaders

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stlc8tr

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Wait how did I miss this. Rockford said Khans' Sons death is because Hillary & Obama? He died in 2004, is he talking about the war vote? I just don't get what he's shooting for.

Can't find any info on it, I must have misunderstood the news. I was distracted. Apologies'.

It was Trump's spokeswoman, Katrina Pierson, that said that.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...y-with-khan-comments-and-anti-lgbt-tweets.ece

In a CNN interview Tuesday, Pierson adamantly denied that Trump should apologize for his comments about the family of fallen U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan before speculating that Obama's military policies were responsible for Khan's death.

“What exactly is Mr. Trump supposed to be apologizing for?” Pierson asked. “It was under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that changed the rules of engagements that probably cost his life.”
 

Jhhnn

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"You can't go there, Donald! Nobody has ever come out alive!"

"Fuck that! I'm Donald J Trump! I'm going in!"

(Sounds of wild dogs ripping their still living prey to pieces)
 

leper84

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Let's back up a second. LK completely dodged a question. Even if Kahn was in favor of Sharia Law, how does that excuse Trump's behavior in any way? LK, the Sharia stuff is just to divert the discussion. We can talk about it later, actually, it doesn't matter. Khan isn't running for President. Let's try to focus on the issue, can we? The issue is Trump's response. Certainly, you're not going to say that Trump knew that Khan was pro-Sharia Law (there's no real evidence of that)?


Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.
 
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Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.

Except Khan doesn't promote Sharia law. Has stated very plainly that it should never supersede US law. Etc etc etc...

The point of Khans speech was that maligning an entire religion is unamerican. That marginalizing people and attacking them based solely on their religion is unamerican.

Trump fell for it hook line and sinker. He immediately attacked the mother because she didn't speak. Had to throw in that probably she wasn't allowed to. Why? Because she's a Muslim. There was no point to it considering she explained she didn't speak because of the deep grief she felt every time she saw her sons picture which was standing 15 feet tall on the screens behind her.

He deserves all the criticism he is getting. He needs to shut up and, if he were a real man, apologize for immediately assuming she was forbidden to speak. He was marginalizing her based solely on her religion with no knowledge of anything. Exactly what Khans speech was about.
 
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Vic

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Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.

First, Khan spoke against Sharia law and in preference of the Constitution during his speech at the DNC. Try watching it.
Second, are you also upset by Orthodox Jewish communities, the Amish, and the thousands of Christian communities throughout the US? Do convents and monasteries outrage you, with their nuns and priests sworn to chastity in the name of their faith? Is it against our way of life that you can't go inside a Mormon temple? Do you believe that the Constitution is violated every time the Jehovahs Witnesses knock on your door? Seriously. Because the free exercise of religion guaranteed in the Constitution includes the right for adherents to voluntarily submit themselves to their own religious laws, provided those laws don't violate our secular laws. And yes, even if they're Muslim. Get over it.
 
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"You can't go there, Donald! Nobody has ever come out alive!"

"Fuck that! I'm Donald J Trump! I'm going in!"

(Sounds of wild dogs ripping their still living prey to pieces)

no fucking way he's going in. he's a coward, a wanna-be tough guy.
 
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Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.


Looks like we have a late joiner here.
All of your 'arguments' have been thoroughly debunked, discredited and generally dismissed as nothing more than a ploy to switch from drumpf being a monstrous, feces splattered asshole to the person pointing out that drumpf is nothing more than a feces splattered asshole.

Next patient please, send in another victim of industrial disease... sorry, really like that song, and it kinda fits here, barely.
 

brycejones

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Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.

Please read the thread before posting again.
 
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Khan attacked Trump on the basis of religious freedom- isn't that where the whole pocket Constitution came into play?

Sharia Law is completely, in every way at odds with our Constitution and western civilization in general- Free speech, freedom of religion, women's rights, gay rights, minority rights.

If Khan is a believer and supporter of sharia law wouldn't that completely invalidate the argument he made at the DNC?

Isn't trotting out his parents for an emotional appeal during a political event every single bit as or more completely disgusting as the response?

It seems to me this was calculated. The set up and the execution were horrible things to do. But, now you've got the response you want, there can be zero discussion outside the response, correct?

People being tired of this brand of bullshit is the exact same reason Trump won the primaries with record numbers.

Please tell me your thoughts on Benghazi Mom at the RNC?
 

0roo0roo

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A short statement of fact followed by a long tome of innuendo as to the legitimacy of Khan's practice. Nice. Very nice. His inbox was probably so full of hateful shit that he couldn't stand it.
The paywall is convenient, huh? The Daily Squaller probably didn't put any spin on that, did they? I mean, have they ever?
Assange talks conspiracy theory shit, again?


Doubling down on a bad hand...we've seen the left do this all week with the dirty tricks and the faux outrage.

EXCLUSIVE: KHIZR KHAN FOUNDED ISLAMIC JOURNAL TO DEFEND SHARIA LAW
Khan defends Sharia law responsible for the executions of gays and women in 11 countries
http://www.infowars.com/what-the-media-isnt-reporting-about-khizr-khan/

and as bluesmax already posted
Khan specializes in visa programs accused of selling U.S. citizenship
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/k...-citizenship/article/2598279?custom_click=rss

Trump says things, the democrats are corruption in action.


People archived his site, I mean, really, what is he hiding that he took it all down. A public figure scurrying away like he was "doxed" ...

You really should stop with just referencing breitbart non stop and get a clue. You're brainwashed, or appear to be.


You pretending this statement has meaning after wikileaks exposure of left wing media collusion with the DNC... lol


The democrats tried to push a narrative to bury the legitimate news of their corruption. Who are they kidding, the majority of the military does not support Clinton.
 

DrDoug

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Doubling down on ...

on stupid is what you are doing, you freaking racist moron. The Khan loves Sharia law bullshit was debunked as has been explained here by several posters.

Read the fucking thread if you wish to participate and not be seen to be spewing your usual racist, misogynistic bullshit propaganda.
 

umbrella39

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0roo0roo is self owned again. Typical of his pathetic ilk just like before and surely after him in this thread who get their "facts" from sticking their heads up their asses...
 

0roo0roo

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:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

And your other link:

Do you have the list of clients so we can vet them?

The article merely ties him to a corrupt program and reveals his true motivations for being the shield against corruption exposures Hillary has faced since the wikileaks email dump.

Stop hanging a straw man out there of things I didn't say so you can have an argument.
 

DrDoug

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Do you have the list of clients so we can vet them?

The article merely ties him to a corrupt program and reveals his true motivations for being the shield against corruption exposures Hillary has faced since the wikileaks email dump.

Stop hanging a straw man out there of things I didn't say so you can have an argument.

Your racist ass may not like it but it's a legitimate government program and he's an immigration attorney. Big fucking deal. That's it, no matter how you try to Trump it up. The Wikileaks bullshit relates to the DNC, not Hillary, and further it shows that Wikileaks is a tool of the Russians and they are using it to try and influence an American election. If you want to embrace foreigners trying to fuck with our system then please proceed, moron. The good thing for everyone who can't stand your bullshit is that you attach yourself to failure movements, at least giving us a blithering idiot to point to and laugh at while your latest love founders and fails.

I'll let you get back to Trump humping, you worthless sack of shit.
 

leper84

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First, Khan spoke against Sharia law and in preference of the Constitution during his speech at the DNC. Try watching it.

From Khizr Khans own paper, https://www.scribd.com/document/320016152/Khizr-Khan-Juristic-Classification-Islamic-Law

“The invariable and basic rules of Islamic law are only those prescribed in the Shari’ah,” Khan writes. “All other juridical works… must always be subordinated to the Shari’ah.”


“For every issue concerning a Muslim, either there is a binding text (of the Shariah) that rules it, or there is a guidance that may indicate the way to truth. If there is a text, then the Muslim has to follow it.


His own words, except its convenient to change them now. Oh wait, Taqiyya.



Second, are you also upset by Orthodox Jewish communities, the Amish, and the thousands of Christian communities throughout the US? Do convents and monasteries outrage you, with their nuns and priests sworn to chastity in the name of their faith? Is it against our way of life that you can't go inside a Mormon temple? Do you believe that the Constitution is violated every time the Jehovahs Witnesses knock on your door? Seriously. Because the free exercise of religion guaranteed in the Constitution includes the right for adherents to voluntarily submit themselves to their own religious laws, provided those laws don't violate our secular laws. And yes, even if they're Muslim. Get over it

When women lose their right to speak, vote or move freely that is against our way of life.

When gays are stoned, thrown off buildings, imprisoned or executed just for being gay, that is against our way of life.

When members of opposing religions or people with no religion are given the choice of converting or death, that is against our way of life.

But you can compare that to Mormons passing out fliers, sure.

To be fair, when Christians force children/teens to go through conversion therapy that is against our way of life and should be stopped. Its not about picking sides, its about setting standards.
 

DrDoug

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From Khizr Khans own paper...

“The invariable and basic rules of Islamic law are only those prescribed in the Shari’ah,” Khan writes. “All other juridical works… must always be subordinated to the Shari’ah.”


“For every issue concerning a Muslim, either there is a binding text (of the Shariah) that rules it, or there is a guidance that may indicate the way to truth. If there is a text, then the Muslim has to follow it.


His own words, except its convenient to change them now. Oh wait, Taqiyya.


...

The only truthful thing in your post are the words "From Khizr Khans own paper". After that you then proceed to show us how you are incapable of reading something and understanding what you are reading. The quote:

“For every issue concerning a Muslim, either there is a binding text (of the Shariah) that rules it, or there is a guidance that may indicate the way to truth. If there is a text, then the Muslim has to follow it.
are not his words but rather him quoting someone named Al-Shafi'i, you dumb-assed dipstick. I'm not going to waste any more of my time showing that you are a fucking idiot who sees words and freaks because you are too stupid to understand what is being written about.

I hope you wear Depends, you little pantswetter.
 

zinfamous

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One has to wonder how long Pence will stay on the ticket, given Trump's....."campaign style".

Clearly Pence has ambitions beyond this VP nomination, but how much more exposure to the Trump contagion can he stand before he can't remove the stench?

Just think about the Palin stench that still haunts McCain.
 

zinfamous

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"You can't go there, Donald! Nobody has ever come out alive!"

"Fuck that! I'm Donald J Trump! I'm going in!"

(Sounds of wild dogs ripping their still living prey to pieces)

LoL. Trump just Leeeeroy Jenkinsed his campaign bus.

(well, campaign aer-o-plane).
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Doubling down on a bad hand...we've seen the left do this all week with the dirty tricks and the faux outrage.

EXCLUSIVE: KHIZR KHAN FOUNDED ISLAMIC JOURNAL TO DEFEND SHARIA LAW
Khan defends Sharia law responsible for the executions of gays and women in 11 countries
http://www.infowars.com/what-the-media-isnt-reporting-about-khizr-khan/

and as bluesmax already posted
Khan specializes in visa programs accused of selling U.S. citizenship
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/k...-citizenship/article/2598279?custom_click=rss

Trump says things, the democrats are corruption in action.


People archived his site, I mean, really, what is he hiding that he took it all down. A public figure scurrying away like he was "doxed" ...




You pretending this statement has meaning after wikileaks exposure of left wing media collusion with the DNC... lol


The democrats tried to push a narrative to bury the legitimate news of their corruption. Who are they kidding, the majority of the military does not support Clinton.

so you're sick of being teabagged by 12 year old girls in your videogames, so you come into this thread for more of the same?

dude....
 

0roo0roo

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Your racist ass may not like it but it's a legitimate government program and he's an immigration attorney. Big fucking deal. That's it, no matter how you try to Trump it up. The Wikileaks bullshit relates to the DNC, not Hillary, and further it shows that Wikileaks is a tool of the Russians and they are using it to try and influence an American election. If you want to embrace foreigners trying to fuck with our system then please proceed, moron. The good thing for everyone who can't stand your bullshit is that you attach yourself to failure movements, at least giving us a blithering idiot to point to and laugh at while your latest love founders and fails.

I'll let you get back to Trump humping, you worthless sack of shit.


The funny thing about you people is that you are just the flip side of the neo-cons who thought they could impose democracy on the middle east. Instead now you have the arrogance to believe that you can impose western values and a reformation of Islam through your apologism and deliberate blindness to the nature of Islam. Yes you the western liberal will reform and assimilate these people when the examples of france and the other countries throughout europe exist, where when the minority grows to a critical mass, blood spills on the streets at an ever more frequent rate. The sheer arrogance of your belief in believing your lefty notions can reform a religion which hasn't reformed over 1400 years makes neo-cons almost seem sane in comparison.

You have the naive comparing it to mormons of all groups, when even muslims themselves will explain that Islam isn't just a religion it is a "way of life" because it prescribes the way not just your personal faith, but how the entire society, your family, and your government should be run. It is a total system, with the example made by its founder who combined and implemented state, religious, and military in his life time, and spread his faith through conquest, through the sword. These factors make it inherently prone to back sliding, to regression, the fundamentalists always have an undeniable case to make, the barely repressed tension between that call to order the world based on islam and modernity will always exist and is only effectively suppressed when they exist as a super minority in a western society.

Because you've become so regressive that you blind yourself to differences you cannot acknowledge that Islam is fundamentally different from other religions, let alone countenance the thought that it is incompatible with western civilization let alone our constitution. It is this blindness which leads leaders like Merkel to continue down their paths of self destruction because to acknowledge valid concerns over religion and culture is labeled perversely as "racist" when these things are ideology and belief, not race. You can't even get that straight.

There is a difference, and this is coming from an atheist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Render_unto_Caesar
 
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