Trump: Secret terror attacks have taken place in USA! SECRET!

[purbeast0]

Want to take me up on my challenge with the list they put out?

I don't even know what list you are talking about. All I know is I saw a list of about 30 terrorists or people involved in terrorism in this FBI guys presentation that were arrested in Maryland alone last year and pretty much none of those were reported about in the media. It may have been more like 50 I don't remember the actual number at this point to be honest, but it was a lot more than your every day Joe would think.

 

[cytg111]

Free advertising, ya know.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-islamic-state-analysis-idUSKBN15M114

That moment when your elected leader becomes the national security threat.. wait that was like 2 weeks ago and 2 years before that as well..
Isis is carrying out attacks every day all day didnt you know? Cause muslim==isis ... why you think travel ban? To stop all the isis'es of corse'... toddler trump off the rails again.. week three shall not dissapoint.
Before Trump I was eyeing Putin as number 1. threat to world peace... now I am worried what your guy is picking with China... wtf is going on???

 

[brycejones]

I don't even know what list you are talking about. All I know is I saw a list of about 30 terrorists or people involved in terrorism in this FBI guys presentation that were arrested in Maryland alone last year and pretty much none of those were reported about in the media. It may have been more like 50 I don't remember the actual number at this point to be honest, but it was a lot more than your every day Joe would think.

I call BS that it is the media suppressing that info. More likely it is law enforcement keeping it quiet for operational reasons especially since US attorneys and other officials love to be able to talk about these kinds of arrests since they are seen as career enhancers.

Also Glorious Leader was specific in attacks having taken place, I would bet that everyone of the instances your guy was talking about was a supposed plot disrupted very early in the process so no attack ever occurred.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't even know what list you are talking about. All I know is I saw a list of about 30 terrorists or people involved in terrorism in this FBI guys presentation that were arrested in Maryland alone last year and pretty much none of those were reported about in the media. It may have been more like 50 I don't remember the actual number at this point to be honest, but it was a lot more than your every day Joe would think.

Do the math. Maryland has ~6M people, roughly 1/50th of the US population. That yields ~1500-2500 such incidents if what you offer is true. That's not the tens of thousands claimed by the Donald. Nor do your numbers indicate how much of it is of the Bundyite persuasion or any other, for that matter.

 

[vi edit]

Can we get a list of radical white nationalist attacks and appropriately report them for the acts of terrorism that they are?

 

[Jhhnn]

It's all in an effort to convince us that there's a law enforcement crisis that doesn't exist in order to establish more authoritarian control.

I am your voice. I alone can fix it. I will restore law and order.

The only people made safer by the Trump presidency will be the hoarders of the vast wealth of this country.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Can we get a list of radical white nationalist attacks and appropriately report them for the acts of terrorism that they are?

Should have seen the exchange on CNN this morning when that very issue was brought up with Rep. Sean Duffy. They were summarily dismissed as one offs. Or being too old to count.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...-anchor-in-contentious-interview-about-terror

 

[Meghan54]

So let me ask you something, since you're talking about plots taken down before they became "operative", for lack of a better word.

I'm guessing these take downs prior to the commission of the crime was done somewhat in secret, right? Otherwise, you'd have something akin to reality TV with cameras tailing along with the crew of FBI agents....or is that what you envision happening? Embed a news crew with each FBI office to accompany these arrests/take downs?

Is that what you want? The FBI already has press conferences when major take downs happen...what other coverage do you want?

Well he does somewhat have a point. The media only reports on attacks or foiled attacks when they are juicy with details of "assault rifles" or tons of deaths. They don't report on many of the plots that get taken down before they happen that don't have any of the stuff that will drive numbers up.

David Rodski who is in the FBI and works in counter terrorism came and spoke to us a few weeks back and it was very interesting to listen to. He went over the amount of terrorists and plots that they brought down in just Maryland last year in 2016, and I believe it was like over 30. I had only heard about 1 of them on the news and it was because it was one of those that had some interesting details that would make for a good news story. The others were just one or two people who were taken down with no fight back or conflict, so we never heard anything about that. I would bet that a lot of these aren't reported because it would instill panic in a lot of people too.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well he does somewhat have a point. The media only reports on attacks or foiled attacks when they are juicy with details of "assault rifles" or tons of deaths. They don't report on many of the plots that get taken down before they happen that don't have any of the stuff that will drive numbers up.

David Rodski who is in the FBI and works in counter terrorism came and spoke to us a few weeks back and it was very interesting to listen to. He went over the amount of terrorists and plots that they brought down in just Maryland last year in 2016, and I believe it was like over 30. I had only heard about 1 of them on the news and it was because it was one of those that had some interesting details that would make for a good news story. The others were just one or two people who were taken down with no fight back or conflict, so we never heard anything about that. I would bet that a lot of these aren't reported because it would instill panic in a lot of people too.

The way to validate any claim is to provide specific names so we can look them up. If you can do that then we have a basis for discussion. In any case Trump said terrorism was not being reported full stop. Spice interpreted his words to mean something Trump didn't say and that was a vague accusation of "underreporting", which by context means people arrested or convicted for trying to join ISIS, as an example, did not get the same coverage as the Berkeley protests/riots or Trump's low turnout on inauguration couple with Trump lying about numbers with the aid of "alternative facts".

Considering context the latter is certainly more newsworthy than people being arrested because they were stupid enough to align themselves with ISIS and got caught.

 

[Homerboy]

Can we get a list of radical white nationalist attacks and appropriately report them for the acts of terrorism that they are?

This administration only considers brown people as terrorists.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Does there not come a point where some protection mechanism kicks in and says this man is mentally ill and a dangerous unstable risk. He's gone full crazy and only the media and the public is calling him out as a deranged individual . The government is silent. The man is unhinged and spreading crazy nonsense.

Starfleet Order 104: Section C– Should it be proven with admissible evidence that the flag officer who had assumed command was medically or psychologically unfit for command, the starship's ranking officer could relieve them on that basis. However, such an action was required to be supported by an appropriate certification of unfitness by the ship's chief medical officer (requiring the CMO to also produce test results to that effect) or other clear evidence, such as an act of attempted suicide.

So we need earth's Chief Medical Officer, whossat?

 

[1sikbITCH]

Who's the "so-called fake President Trump"?


Newsflash: Trump is going to be president for the next four years.

That's reality. Now I gotta do this:

It's a sure bet Trump has more access to information than me, you, or the media.

It's also been shown that Trump has no time for information. Just give him the big picture, leave the details to Bannon.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Starfleet Order 104: Section C– Should it be proven with admissible evidence that the flag officer who had assumed command was medically or psychologically unfit for command, the starship's ranking officer could relieve them on that basis. However, such an action was required to be supported by an appropriate certification of unfitness by the ship's chief medical officer (requiring the CMO to also produce test results to that effect) or other clear evidence, such as an act of attempted suicide.

So we need earth's Chief Medical Officer, whossat?

25th Amendment.

Press piece follows.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...-brush-up-on-the-25th-amendment-if-trump-wins

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

25th Amendment.

Press piece follows.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...-brush-up-on-the-25th-amendment-if-trump-wins

Aw, I liked mine more. This one's all 'correct' and 'doesn't involve space' and stuff.

 

[vi edit]

This administration only considers brown people as terrorists.

Dzhokhar wasn't that a name from Game of Thrones?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Aw, I liked mine more. This one's all 'correct' and 'doesn't involve space' and stuff.

Yeah sometimes reality is boring but at least we live in interesting times, eh?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yeah sometimes reality is boring but at least we live in interesting times, eh?

If trump had ended up as a star trek (or any other) movie bad guy, the character would have been blasted for being too one-dimensional, too predictable, and too unrealistic for the time period.

:|

 

[woolfe9998]

White house damage control parties come up with a list of SECRET! "covered up" attacks (Trump's exact words), where by "covered up" they now say he really meant "have not received the media attention they deserved."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...media-ignored/ar-AAmGtvN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

On the list are such SECRET! "covered up" attacks as the "November 2015 massacre in Paris and a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., that same year."

Evidence for the "cover up"! IT'S TRUE! ... or at least a second "alternative fact" for the day ...

CNN- http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/world/paris-shooting/
BBC - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34818994
NY Times - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/13/world/europe/paris-shooting-attacks.html?_r=0
... About 797,000 results (0.83 seconds) ...

Why did the media cover this up!? WHY!???

I checked the first 10 on this list by googling them. After looking only at the first 10 pages of google results, the smallest number of US news stories covering any one of them was 7. The highest was 16. That's just a partial result.

I notice that the White House watered down Trump's original statement to be "inadequate coverage." That statement is impossible to verify or falsify because it is a matter of opinion what constitutes "adequate coverage." Trump's original statement was a moronic lie, but this walking back of the statement is clever.

I see the discussion above about "foiled attacks." Trump didn't say "foiled attacks." He said attacks. And this White House list includes only attacks that were carried out, not any which were stopped at the planning stage. Some of the attacks on the list weren't very successful, with just a single minor injury or in a couple cases, no injury at all, but each one was carried out. Regardless, they all seem to have been covered by multiple US news outlets, even the ones involving a single minor injury.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If trump had ended up as a star trek (or any other) movie bad guy, the character would have been blasted for being too one-dimensional, too predictable, and too unrealistic for the time period.

:|

Trump makes the perfect stereotype for the "stupid bad guy", but people may trip themselves up if they do not attempt some dispassionate analysis- something harder for some than others. Jumping to conclusions that one arrives at because of their distaste (which may be justly earned) may allow for the tables to be turned. Look at Cowboy John and how he manipulated people for attention. What will they do, ban him? Yeah it may happen but to people like that it's a temporary obstacle and an overt win.

One has to understand the nature of the problems people present to effectively deal with them.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Trump makes the perfect stereotype for the "stupid bad guy", but people may trip themselves up if they do not attempt some dispassionate analysis- something harder for some than others. Jumping to conclusions that one arrives at because of their distaste (which may be justly earned) may allow for the tables to be turned. Look at Cowboy John and how he manipulated people for attention. What will they do, ban him? Yeah it may happen but to people like that it's a temporary obstacle and an overt win.

One has to understand the nature of the problems people present to effectively deal with them.

Are we generally considering Trump to be smarter than he appears? His actions, and the underlying actions (unawareness of EO's, surprise at various aspects of taking the presidency, the things he can't lie/bluster about) seem to present an aura of incompetence.

 

[nakedfrog]

Interestingly enough, on the news this morning when they were talking about this, they also theorized that this could be a distraction tactic to draw coverage away from the current status of the immigration ban.

 

[MongGrel]

If trump had ended up as a star trek (or any other) movie bad guy, the character would have been blasted for being too one-dimensional, too predictable, and too unrealistic for the time period.

:|

Trump can't pull off Corinthian Leather.

 

[woolfe9998]

Interestingly enough, on the news this morning when they were talking about this, they also theorized that this could be a distraction tactic to draw coverage away from the current status of the immigration ban.

I get so tired of people trying to ascribe "clever" motives for every insane Trump tweet. Trump can't help himself. Then the White House and his surrogates must scramble to justify his remarks after the fact. Like this list that they released. By now this pattern is well established and painfully obvious.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I get so tired of people trying to ascribe "clever" motives for every insane Trump tweet. Trump can't help himself. Then the White House and his surrogates must scramble to justify his remarks after the fact. Like this list that they released. By now this pattern is well established and painfully obvious.

(Dr. Horrible)
Penny: Unexpected. He's a really good-looking guy, and I thought he was kind of cheesy at first-
Billy: [quietly] Trust your instincts.
Penny: But he turned out to be totally sweet. Sometimes people are layered like that. There's something totally different underneath than what's on the surface.
Billy: And sometimes there's a third... even deeper level... and that one is the same as the top surface one.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Are we generally considering Trump to be smarter than he appears? His actions, and the underlying actions (unawareness of EO's, surprise at various aspects of taking the presidency, the things he can't lie/bluster about) seem to present an aura of incompetence.

If I were to guess where Trump scores on a standard IQ test I'd estimate about 120 or so. Not a genius but not stupid, however that doesn't count for much when the question of intelligence is considered. There are things for which no quantifiable standards exist.

Consider that the man is the President. He beat Hillary and his supporters and the majority of Dem leaning here consider them stupid on a good day (but they still lost). Note Bush was "shrub" and Edwards was going to wipe the floor with Cheney. Nope.

The mistake was underestimating and misunderstanding the opposition and instead of close inspection and considered thought, a predetermined framework based on *what should be* was substituted for "what is". Hubris won the day in favor of Trump. His competence in office isn't really the same as his ability to manipulate.

Now as to an analysis of Trump outside of that? How long a TL;DR are you asking for? Nothing is simple.

 

[nakedfrog]

I get so tired of people trying to ascribe "clever" motives for every insane Trump tweet. Trump can't help himself. Then the White House and his surrogates must scramble to justify his remarks after the fact. Like this list that they released. By now this pattern is well established and painfully obvious.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum, don't forget he has a team of advisors. I'm not bold enough to presume I know which (if any) actions are "rogue" actions and which ones have been planned in advance.