Trump signs bill to adress giant garbage patch in Pacific ocean

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Moonbeam

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The important thing as the oceans fill with plastic and chemical wastes is to blame someone.
 

JSt0rm

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Right because corporations are responsible for the responsibility of others. Get a fucking grip.

I guess when I get pulled over for drinking and driving next time I can just tell the cop that it's the liquor corps fault for making it. Oh no wait it's the bartenders fault for serving it. No wait it's the liquor store owners fault for allowing me to buy the bottle.

Or maybe... just maybe.... it's your own fucking fault detective dipshit. Quit always try to pass off responsibility for shit. No corporation is telling people to drink their coke product and then toss the bottle in a river.


strawman. A better example would be ... What if you drove drunk because it was legal and kept killing people. When the country went to make a law about driving drunk the liquor corp lobbied the government to block the law.
 
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cytg111

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People are gonna do dumb shit if dumb shit is easily possible right under their noses... This cant be a surprise to anyone? So we need to agree to some rules, ie. when drinking, or throwing plast away, if we are to be 7billion+ on this rock.
 
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strawman. A better example would be ... What if you drove drunk because it was legal and kept killing people. When the country went to make a law about driving drunk the liquor corp lobbied the government to block the law.

It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.
 

cytg111

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It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.
thats is 10 lines of absolutly zero information.. I can tell you have training.
 

Viper1j

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https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...clean-oceans-trash-floating-foreign-countries



Pollution, conservation and recycling should be a non partisan issue world wide. We only have one planet. We should all strive to keep it nice.

So, held a gun to his head to make him sign it?

He's pulled out of the Paris Peace Accords, he's rolled back environmental protections for coal miners practically ensuring that we're going to see a spike in black lung disease, the air doesn't matter to him, the water doesn't matter to him, and people don't matter to him.

There's absolutely no way he signed that because he wanted to do "the right thing".
 

Vic

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It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.

No, he said that corporations should be as responsible as individual people. If you're for responsibility so much, then why are you against that?
 
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Moonbeam

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It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.
Did you back that up with anything?
 

Vic

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Corrected thread title should read: Trump sign amendment to limit effectiveness of Bush-era law to address Pacific Ocean garbage patch.
 
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So, held a gun to his head to make him sign it?

He's pulled out of the Paris Peace Accords, he's rolled back environmental protections for coal miners practically ensuring that we're going to see a spike in black lung disease, the air doesn't matter to him, the water doesn't matter to him, and people don't matter to him.

There's absolutely no way he signed that because he wanted to do "the right thing".
Paris Peace Accords?
Now you're giving President Trump credit for ending the Vietnam war? Wow, win, win double win for the Trump and i'm still not tired of it.
 

ivwshane

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This originated under Bush - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/33/chapter-33

Obama reauthorized it - https://www.surfrider.org/coastal-b...ne-debris-legislation-signed-by-the-president
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1171rfs/pdf/BILLS-112hr1171rfs.pdf.

Now Trump has it a go at this Bush era law





They just wanted to update it.
Wonder why they updated it?

From reddit


Ammendment
SEC. 210. Major marine casualty property damage threshold.

Section 6101(i)(3) of title 46, United States Code, is amended by striking $500,000 and inserting $2,000,000.
Original - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/46/6101



Looks like they are capping Federal outlays at 50% of total cost of some
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/756/text
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:33 section:1952 editionrelim)
Meanwhile - Earlier in the year https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...ainability-fisheries-industry-economy-marine/


Losing interest in spending Saturday morning evaluating the updates to the act....
At the very least, this wreaks of normal trump BS


Mother fucker! Even when I try to give him credit, he just goes and fucks up everything even more.

What a piece of shit
 

Viper1j

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Paris Peace Accords?
Now you're giving President Trump credit for ending the Vietnam war? Wow, win, win double win for the Trump and i'm still not tired of it.

I misspoke. I meant the Paris Climate thing, but in any case, I did say he pulled out.. Something I'm sure Malaria is very familiar with.


Why isn't your "winning" ass down in the mines for a little black lung disease?
 

Jhhnn

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It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.

Shee-it, Sherlock. Over a billion people don't even have toilets, let alone trash removal. It's not an issue of individual responsibility but rather a collective action problem.
 
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I misspoke. I meant the Paris Climate thing, but in any case, I did say he pulled out.. Something I'm sure Malaria is very familiar with.
Why isn't your "winning" ass down in the mines for a little black lung disease?
You screwed up and I got to make fun of you about it. Yet another win.
 
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Shee-it, Sherlock. Over a billion people don't even have toilets, let alone trash removal. It's not an issue of individual responsibility but rather a collective action problem.
Shithole countries? OHH wait ! we can't call them that, somehow it would be wrong! Not politically correct.
 
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BUTCH1

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Might be tough to enforce to countries that are poor or those that don't give a shi*. People themselves can help by eliminating the ridiculous consumption of bottled water. Most tap water is perfectly fine for drinking but somehow we have found a way to enrich a huge industry selling "spring" water and generating tons of trash in the process which we all see not disposed of properly.
 

feralkid

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It's not a strawmen because you have no argument to argue against in the first place.

You just say that corporations are responsible instead of individual people. You never backed up your statement with any real evidence, facts, or even a general argument. You're the typical liberal that loves to blame things indirectly instead of just taking responsibility for individual actions.


What motivates you to come here every day and show the entire forum what a clueless jackass you are?

'roids?
 
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