Trump Speaks With Taiwan’s Leader, a Likely Affront to China

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kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Wow so basically, a 93 year old Bob Dole just landed the slap against Beijing's face he's always wanted to deliver. Apparently Bob Dole planned this months ago? Ha.

I knew Taiwan was his side cause from back in the day, but damn Bob Dole. You sneaky.

Still can't bring myself to feel outrage over the call. Taiwan has been a de facto nation for awhile now. I think like Cuba this island is due for the 21st century refresh and if Beijing doesn't like it tough shit. I hope Trump accelerates military aid to them and deepens support for/work with Japan and Singapore too. China's campaign against neighbors, the rule of law, and the maritime environment need to be stopped asap. I don't care how victimized they feel, I don't buy any of their propaganda and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be held under Beijing's yoke. Two words: Falun gong.


Also, Taiwan #1.
 
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Reactions: highland145
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And your problem is Cranial-Rectitus.

Dude, it's ever so obvious that you know absolutely nothing about the field of international relations and how countries deal with one another out there in the real world. Stop pretending that you do.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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No, you are ignorant.

ie
"lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular."

The crux of the problem isn't ignorance per se, but rather ignorant people are predictably ignorant of that fact. Ie dunning kruger posterkids.
 

R0H1T

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Jan 12, 2013
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Yay! A trade war with China! That'll be good for everyone.

Said no one ever!
You'll never know until you try.

As for trade war, surely the Chinese market & currency manipulation needs a fitting reply & if the US is going back on TTP this could be the only other alternative.

Also it's not like China can afford a trade war, a major importer (of Chinese goods) can show the rest of the world how to deal with them.

Probably the only thing, for now, that I support from the President elect.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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You'll never know until you try.

As for trade war, surely the Chinese market & currency manipulation needs a fitting reply & if the US is going back on TTP this could be the only other alternative.

Also it's not like China can afford a trade war, a major importer (of Chinese goods) can show the rest of the world how to deal with them.

Probably the only thing, for now, that I support from the President elect.

One of the crucial factors leading to Pearl Harbor attack was oil embargo imposed on Japan. Desperate people do desperate things.
 

R0H1T

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Jan 12, 2013
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One of the crucial factors leading to Pearl Harbor attack was oil embargo imposed on Japan. Desperate people do desperate things.
You think China will bomb the US, or any other nation in the Pacific rim
You're the richest nation on earth, what could possibly go wrong?
Plenty, but someone has to call their bluff.

I know I'm reaching but imagine had Chamberlain & France tried to stop Hitler before the war came to their shores, also ISIS anyone? You could extend this analogy to trade, so for example why hasn't UK done much about the Chinese dumping their steel, the EU & US (India, Japan et al) have done something but UK has mostly resisted any action on this front ~ lo & behold the Tatas decided to sell their plant

China is doing this in many industries & too many fronts, if the global trade is to remain as free as it has then there should be disincentives wrt such practices & you can't fear repercussions when the other side is clearly working against your interests & citizens!
 
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highland145

Lifer
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Still can't bring myself to feel outrage over the call. Taiwan has been a de facto nation for awhile now. I think like Cuba this island is due for the 21st century refresh and if Beijing doesn't like it tough shit. I hope Trump accelerates military aid to them and deepens support for/work with Japan and Singapore too. China's campaign against neighbors, the rule of law, and the maritime environment need to be stopped asap. I don't care how victimized they feel, I don't buy any of their propaganda and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be held under Beijing's yoke. Two words: Falun gong.


Also, Taiwan #1.
Damned Trump. He'll have us all holding hands before long.
 
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