Trump Suggests That Soldiers Who Suffer From PTSD Aren’t “Strong”

Homerboy

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/trump-ptsd?utm_term=.lsrbZ4Dgl#.eygDaxEJy

After saying there are around 22 veteran suicides a day, Trump explained to the room of veterans what PTSD was.

“When people come back from war and combat and they see maybe what the people in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can’t handle it,” Trump said.

There was a silence in the room after his statement, and people on social media were quick to express anger.
 

ivwshane

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Can we get the trump translators in here to tell us what trump really meant?
 

Homerboy

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I just wish I was there.... during that silence I would have loved to let a a little Nelson "Ha-ha!" from the back of the room.
 
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Homerboy

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I'm telling you. He is throwing this thing. Clinton plant.

The problem with that theory is his numbers are steady. Her's are steady/going down. They're both losing undecideds to 3rd parties (or no vote at all). People aren't switching camps.
 

Jaskalas

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I'd be more offended at the money from thin air trick he has going on by promising everything to everyone, while cutting taxes and lowering the debt. A clear indication of all lies. He says he's going to help them. Oh really?

When it comes to mental illness "you’re strong and you can handle it" would be an accurate description of why not everyone is affected by the same events the same way. How would you say it?
 

JSt0rm

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Because it really doesn't have anything to do with strength and he is insulting a bunch of vets who for whatever reason were tramitized? But that ok right? Republicans don't really care about soldiers. They care about the mil and it killing people all over the world but individual soldiers? Not strong.
 

Homerboy

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I'd be more offended at the money from thin air trick he has going on by promising everything to everyone, while cutting taxes and lowering the debt. A clear indication of all lies. He says he's going to help them. Oh really?

When it comes to mental illness "you’re strong and you can handle it" would be an accurate description of why not everyone is affected by the same events the same way. How would you say it?

When I know every word I said would be put under a microscope -- under immense scrutiny -- I'd make sure I chose my words and my phrasing VERY carefully before opening my mouth. I do it at work. I do it at home (married!) I do it with my kids.
 

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This one is tough... When you listen to the whole clip you see what he was trying to say, but it came out very wrong. It'd be like be like me trying to talk about a pro-life solution for single mothers, but in line with talking about the challenges of being a single mom I said "It's very difficult being a Mom, and a lot of women can't deal with it." That sounds like a very dismissive general statement, right? So, he tried, but didn't quite stick the landing.

I worked in Afghanistan for 6 months as a civilian contractor, which means I was pretty safe for the most part. Even I came back with a little PTSD that took the better part of a year to deal with, and that really opened my eyes to what troops really have to struggle with. It's very hard to talk about these things when you have zero frame of reference, let alone a massive ego.

Trump is a blithering idiot, but I'll give him a little forgiveness for this one instance.
 
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dainthomas

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It's not just that it's extremely offensive to combat vets. It's actually dangerous, because people dealing with those issues might hear what he says and think "I just need to be stronger and I can get through it" instead of getting the help they need.

So he's basically saying the opposite of what he should be saying. Which is a daily occurrence at this point.
 
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I'm going to be very curious as to how Trump handles defeat if he loses the election especially when our troops have been exposed to vicious psychopaths and Trump is up against a single woman.
 

Jaskalas

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Looking up the numbers...
It occurs to me that the sheer frequency of those who experience PTSD following trauma may be a vast majority.
One might argue those not affected were guarded by a mental illness of another kind.
 

Miramonti

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I'm going to be very curious as to how Trump handles defeat if he loses the election especially when our troops have been exposed to vicious psychopaths and Trump is up against a single woman.
Hopefully not like a vicious psychopath but I'd keep low around him in any case.
 

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It should really be of great concern that she is not beating him by 40 points. I get that Donald was voted by 14Million voters and those are not budging. But man, what is preventing the rest of the 286Millions (OK, I am going little overboard) from siding with her?

Once again, do NOT get complacent.
 

sportage

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There are times when I would bet the Trump "handlers" wished they could erase 18 minutes of Donald Trump, just as Rosemary Woods did for Richard Nixon.
If Trump is elected, I'd suspect we'll see a lot of 18 minutes disappearing from off record. On a daily basis.
And god forbid under president Trump, anyone from the press or media should call out Trump on something he said or did.
There will be your death panels.

Just look at what Trump does against a former beauty queen.
Can you imagine what Trump could do given all that presidential power?
Can you imagine president Trump saying any old idiotic thing he wants about world matters or national matters, and the people just have to accept it as fact?
And dare never challenge a word from dictator Donald Trump. Or else....
You thought death by twitter was bad.
 

sandorski

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He practically wrote his own Medical Report. So, come on guys, he's practically a Doctor at this point, believe me!
 

VRAMdemon

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This one is tough... When you listen to the whole clip you see what he was trying to say, but it came out very wrong. It'd be like be like me trying to talk about a pro-life solution for single mothers, but in line with talking about the challenges of being a single mom I said "It's very difficult being a Mom, and a lot of women can't deal with it." That sounds like a very dismissive general statement, right? So, he tried, but didn't quite stick the landing.

I worked in Afghanistan for 6 months as a civilian contractor, which means I was pretty safe for the most part. Even I came back with a little PTSD that took the better part of a year to deal with, and that really opened my eyes to what troops really have to struggle with. It's very hard to talk about these things when you have zero frame of reference, let alone a massive ego.

Trump is a blithering idiot, but I'll give him a little forgiveness for this one instance.

I agree...I'll give him a pass on this one after listening to the clip...but, he should really keep his mouth shut when talking about the horror's of war and it's effect on soldiers, considering he dodged the draft during the Vietnam era because of "bone spur's"
 

Pens1566

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It should really be of great concern that she is not beating him by 40 points. I get that Donald was voted by 14Million voters and those are not budging. But man, what is preventing the rest of the 286Millions (OK, I am going little overboard) from siding with her?

Once again, do NOT get complacent.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
- George Carlin
 
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