Trump Suggests That Soldiers Who Suffer From PTSD Aren’t “Strong”

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UglyCasanova

Lifer
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It should really be of great concern that she is not beating him by 40 points. I get that Donald was voted by 14Million voters and those are not budging. But man, what is preventing the rest of the 286Millions (OK, I am going little overboard) from siding with her?

Once again, do NOT get complacent.


Shoulda ran a better candidate. This country is starving for another choice, but both are terrible (in their own unique little ways ).
 

sontakke

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Aug 8, 2001
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Really? You think the communist socialist independent would have given a pass from the other side?? He would have been shredded by republicans by this time.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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At this point, as far as I'm concerned anyone who votes for him is beyond saving. I can almost understand the "burn it all down!" mentality, shortsighted and narcissistic as it is, but everyone else voting for him? Can go straight to hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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I got to the point where I actually felt a little pity for the guy, but that only lasted until he tweeted his latest blooper, so I figure the little pity party I had for him must have lasted at least two nanoseconds or so.
 

LunarRay

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Trump should not comment on issues he does not understand. PTSD has not to do with strength nor weakness unless he considers a person having one or more mental issues a weakness. In any event, him never having faced actual or threatened death or serious injury or sexual violation might also present with PTSD if the stressor occurred to him. I think it is obvious that Donald suffers from some mental issue(s) given his delusional behavior - saying a thing and then shortly thereafter saying he didn't say 'that'. Ergo, Donald must be weak. Believe me!
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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Trump should not comment on issues he does not understand. PTSD has not to do with strength nor weakness unless he considers a person having one or more mental issues a weakness. In any event, him never having faced actual or threatened death or serious injury or sexual violation might also present with PTSD if the stressor occurred to him. I think it is obvious that Donald suffers from some mental issue(s) given his delusional behavior - saying a thing and then shortly thereafter saying he didn't say 'that'. Ergo, Donald must be weak. Believe me!

So, you're saying that Donald, at his rallies and in the debate, should just totter out to a lecturn, stand there mute for an hour or so only making facial gestures and grimaces, then leave?
 
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flexy

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I'm going to be very curious as to how Trump handles defeat if he loses the election especially when our troops have been exposed to vicious psychopaths and Trump is up against a single woman.

Trump will never handle defeat, for a sociopath defeat and failure on his part doesn't even exist.
It will in all likelihood play out as a MASSIVE, well orchestrated "system is rigged, Hillary not rightfully elected", and this will be played out BIG thanks to the help from Breitbart, AJ and other professional propaganda crafters.
He can not, and will never, admit defeat....if he'd do I'd be very surprised.
 

flexy

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It should really be of great concern that she is not beating him by 40 points. I get that Donald was voted by 14Million voters and those are not budging. But man, what is preventing the rest of the 286Millions (OK, I am going little overboard) from siding with her?

Once again, do NOT get complacent.

Hillary is not exactly very "likeable" and there is not much "enthusiasm" to vote for her, as simple as that.
As for your assessment of Sanders, I think you are wrong.
The orange monkey who doesn't even have clear plans ABOUT ANYTHING and can only do well with his demagoguery when he talks to his uneducated supporters, I don't think he'd stand a good chance against Sanders at all.
 

FerrelGeek

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That's easy to understand. But before I continue, I have to offer the general disclaimer that I am not now, nor have I been a trumpista; search my posts if you don't believe me.

OK, so why is Hillary not up by 40+ points? Well, she asked the same question. Why? because she has no ability to connect with the American people. She's a cold elitist c*nt. She represents everything that 'middle America' sees as wrong with our government. She's a political and corporate whore. She's unlikable and untrustworthy. She dances along the line of political ethics and laughs about it. Simply put, 'Trump sucks!' isn't enough for people to flock to her cause. Hillary, the political elite, and the media have (almost all) ganged up to ensure she (in the view of many) ascends to her rightful place.

I've lived in 'middle America' for the vast majority of my life and I can tell you that the hatred of the northeast corridor / California coast elites (as they see it) is very strong. The current political establishment allowed a buffoon like Trump to be taken seriously.

I'm simply offering an explanation in as neutral a way as I can. As for what I think?



It should really be of great concern that she is not beating him by 40 points. I get that Donald was voted by 14Million voters and those are not budging. But man, what is preventing the rest of the 286Millions (OK, I am going little overboard) from siding with her?

Once again, do NOT get complacent.
 
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rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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I'm telling you. He is throwing this thing. Clinton plant.

No, he is throwing this thing because he's done all he can with the spotlight he wanted. F'n politics is BS (yes insightful) if these are the 2 best candidates we can choose from. Greatest country on Earth and this is what we get. Nothing but 2 sports teams going at it and we're hoping "our team" wins. Yeah, great. We all f'n lost, again.
 
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Jhhnn

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No, he is throwing this thing because he's done all he can with the spotlight he wanted. F'n politics is BS (yes insightful) if these are the 2 best candidates we can choose from. Greatest country on Earth and this is what we get. Nothing but 2 sports teams going at it and we're hoping "our team" wins. Yeah, great. We all f'n lost, again.

This isn't like who wins the Superbowl. That won't really change lives anywhere in this country. Elections have consequences for us all. Witness the invasion of Iraq & the looting spree of the housing bubble. Witness the corrosive effects of a Repub Congress Hell bent on tearing down the Govt of the People.

Trump isn't throwing it at all. He simply reveals who he thinks we are as a nation & a people- a bunch of mindless & easily duped rubes whose minds are ruled by false pride, prejudice & fear.

We'll see how right he is when the votes are counted.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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That's easy to understand. But before I continue, I have to offer the general disclaimer that I am not now, nor have I been a trumpista; search my posts if you don't believe me.

OK, so why is Hillary not up by 40+ points? Well, she asked the same question. Why? because she has no ability to connect with the American people. She's a cold elitist c*nt. She represents everything that 'middle America' sees as wrong with our government. She's a political and corporate whore. She's unlikable and untrustworthy. She dances along the line of political ethics and laughs about it. Simply put, 'Trump sucks!' isn't enough for people to flock to her cause. Hillary, the political elite, and the media have (almost all) ganged up to ensure she (in the view of many) ascends to her rightful place.

I've lived in 'middle America' for the vast majority of my life and I can tell you that the hatred of the northeast corridor / California coast elites (as they see it) is very strong. The current political establishment allowed a buffoon like Trump to be taken seriously.

I'm simply offering an explanation in as neutral a way as I can. As for what I think?

It's not as if these sorts have ever meet a democrat they didn't like. eg. the kenyan hussien terrorist.
 

dullard

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The problem with that theory is his numbers are steady. Her's are steady/going down. They're both losing undecideds to 3rd parties (or no vote at all). People aren't switching camps.
I just don't see where you got that argument from (although I can agree with your conclusion that people aren't switching camps).

If you look long term, over the last 13 months, BOTH of their numbers are steady. Clinton has been in a 46.8%+-3.7% band since Aug 19, 2015 in the RealClearPolitics average. Trump has been in a 42.0%+-3.7% band since Aug 16, 2015. Considering that a typical margin of error is about +-4%, that works well with the theory that they are steady.

If you look medium term, over the last 4 months, then Clinton has gone UP from ~44% to ~48% and Trump has gone UP from ~40% to ~44%.

If you look short term, over the last month, then Clinton has gone UP from ~46% to ~48% and Trump has gone UP from ~42% to ~44%.

These are two polarizing candidates and people made up their mind ages ago. Even if you look at the 4-way polls with Johnson and Stein added, they aren't moving much either. There are a few undecideds that have mostly split between Trump and Clinton recently. But that is about the best you can say for a movement. I see no "losing undecided to 3rd parties" as you claimed. I don't see her numbers going down as you claimed.
 

dullard

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Personally, it was bad on paper. But if you listened to the bulk of his speech, this is way overblown. "Strong" was just a bad choice of words.

I'm no Trump fan at all, but this is just an unimportant slip of the tongue.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Personally, it was bad on paper. But if you listened to the bulk of his speech, this is way overblown. "Strong" was just a bad choice of words.

I'm no Trump fan at all, but this is just an unimportant slip of the tongue.

That would be fine if it were just a one time thing, but this is a daily (and sometimes hourly) occurrence.

W was the same way. You could write a book with all his "Bushisms". But he was kinda dopey and likeable. Trump has the dopey part down, but no one has ever called him likeable. When an arrogant narcissist continually spouts off about things he hasn't the faintest clue of, that's a problem.
 
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UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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That's easy to understand. But before I continue, I have to offer the general disclaimer that I am not now, nor have I been a trumpista; search my posts if you don't believe me.

OK, so why is Hillary not up by 40+ points? Well, she asked the same question. Why? because she has no ability to connect with the American people. She's a cold elitist c*nt. She represents everything that 'middle America' sees as wrong with our government. She's a political and corporate whore. She's unlikable and untrustworthy. She dances along the line of political ethics and laughs about it. Simply put, 'Trump sucks!' isn't enough for people to flock to her cause. Hillary, the political elite, and the media have (almost all) ganged up to ensure she (in the view of many) ascends to her rightful place.

I've lived in 'middle America' for the vast majority of my life and I can tell you that the hatred of the northeast corridor / California coast elites (as they see it) is very strong. The current political establishment allowed a buffoon like Trump to be taken seriously.

I'm simply offering an explanation in as neutral a way as I can. As for what I think?


For better and worse that's probably a decent temp check, one in which the Dems can ignore at their peril.
 

fskimospy

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She isn't winning by 40 points because of partisanship. I'm sure there are candidates that will out perform or underperform the basic partisan numbers now and then but I doubt we will ever see a 10+ point victory again in our lifetimes. I read an analysis recently that showed Obama himself would only be performing slightly better than Clinton is.

Just shows you how sick the American electorate has become. Huge numbers of people have convinced themselves to vote for a sociopath in Trump because he's on the red team.
 

dullard

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Just shows you how sick the American electorate has become. Huge numbers of people have convinced themselves to vote for a sociopath in Trump because he's on the red team.
You can vote for your party or for your country. Choose one.
 
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vi edit

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Personally, it was bad on paper. But if you listened to the bulk of his speech, this is way overblown. "Strong" was just a bad choice of words.

I'm no Trump fan at all, but this is just an unimportant slip of the tongue.

That's largely my opinion as well. But when you spew as much bullshit as he does, there is no benefit of doubt. Only doubt. I'm not making any mountains out of this gaffehill.
 

sontakke

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Exactly! Anyone who thinks that any other democrat or socialist or communist would be doing much better than Clinton does not understand what has become of US voting population. Thankfully, only fraction of eligible voters actually vote :-(

Even if going forward some of the red states start turning purple and blue, the great divide is just going become wider and wider.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I'd rather Clinton be in charge. Atleast she won't capsize the boat.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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Personally, it was bad on paper. But if you listened to the bulk of his speech, this is way overblown. "Strong" was just a bad choice of words.

I'm no Trump fan at all, but this is just an unimportant slip of the tongue.

Not really given what he said about mccain. "I like people who weren't captured", really captures his thought process.
 
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