Trump...Tax Fraud? Say it ain't so!

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MtnMan

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In addition to his fragile ego, the true desperation in his clinging to the presidency is that he knows it shields him from criminal prosecution, and he will no longer have the clout of the US Justice department to run interference.
 

fskimospy

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No matter how much morons here would try to make you believe otherwise, there is still statue of limitations.


Again - let me reiterate this for you laser-pointing focusing kittens. Nothing will come of this.
What statue is this? The Burghers of Calais? I always liked that one.

Regardless, the conduct in question here is from 2017, genius.
 
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Where can I find this statue and how does it apply to the case of Trump tax fraud NY is talking about? Apparently this statue has the power to dispell all legal cases NY can bring. Impressive, most impressive.
Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.
Well that explains why no one was ever convicted
You don't know about prosecutions, This wasn't a math error, this was a crime by having Ivanka as an employee AND writing 26 million off in illegal deductions. That is fraud not a calculation error. Ignorance of the law? Ok try that. NY has put mobsters away with far more complex schemes.
 
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fskimospy

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.
Wooooooooosh
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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I realize this will be drawn out until WAAAAAAY after the election...so it won't impact his chances in any way...


Trump could face tax fraud probe, Manhattan prosecutor says

Of course, by the time this ever gets to court...IF it does, Trump will have another USSC justice in his pocket...so it too will roll off like water off a duck's ass.
This is a state matter and a state prosecution. If the Feds want to prosecute as will they may but Trump also committed this fraud with NY too.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoeve

But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.

It appears that you have lost control to the point that your arguments have turned into sanctionable personal attacks. I'm not going report you and the mods may see this or not, but the most important thing is that you've demonstrated that you know you have no rational counter to my points. Not that disgracing yourself is important to a Trumper like yourself, but it's still a bad look.
 

NWRMidnight

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.
I think you are on crack. A CPA isn't a get out of jail free card or in this case, a stay out of jail card.
 

brycejones

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.
You appear to be suffering from Rudy syndrome.
 

blackangst1

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STATUTE of limitations in NY for tax fraud is five years. For federal offences its 3-6 years.

You guys suck at Googling.
 

ivwshane

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The conspiracy that the IRS wont cooperate because...uh...Trump is their boss.

And seeing how SCOTUS already ruled on this, yes.


Sure. If the audit requires it. Not just because they say they want it though.



I highly disagree.

You appear extremely ignorant about this topic, perhaps you should read up on it first before you confirm our suspicions.

Since you seem to be so great at googling you can start by searching for what powers congress has with regards to obtaining individual taxes. You can then search for whether or not congress has tried to utilize that power and you find out for yourself where in that process they are.

Show us how you aren’t a forum troll. Show us you are capable of forming opinions using actual facts and current events. I’m sure we will all wait while you catch up.
 
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blackangst1

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You appear extremely ignorant about this topic, perhaps you should read up on it first before you confirm our suspicions.

Since you seem to be so great at googling you can start by searching for what powers congress has with regards to obtaining individual taxes. You can then search for whether or not congress has tried to utilize that power and you find out for yourself where in that process they are.

Show us how you aren’t a forum troll. Show us you are capable of forming opinions using actual facts and current events. I’m sure we will all wait while you catch up.

When have I *EVER* said congress was outside of its scope? Fuck you man youre projecting. I could give two shits whether or not Trump gives up his tax returns.
 

ivwshane

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When have I *EVER* said congress was outside of its scope? Fuck you man youre projecting. I could give two shits whether or not Trump gives up his tax returns.


Like I said, you are extremely ignorant of the topic. I even gave you a pathway to help you figure it out. Your ignorance has now turned to stupidity. Congrats on confirming what everyone already knew.
 
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Meghan54

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Apparently you are entirely unknowing of what our courts are like. Not surprising to say the least.

Simply putting a clause in there of "unlimited" for fraud means that you must not only find an issue with the taxes - but also prove that there was an intent to deceive. Literally hiring a CPA practically negates that already. Regardless, prosecution will have absolutely nothing under their belt to prove intent, hence why they didn't in past - and won't in the future have any burden whatsoever.


But again, keep snorting coke and getting that high of Trump going to prison. I hear of you chase the dragon enough times you will eventually catch him.

I'd go back to whatever "prestigious" university from which you graduated and demand your money back. You got cheated on your education if you actually believe the bolded sentence is actually true in any way....it isn't, btw.

And gotta really laugh at your university being highly regarded with your incessant stupidity on display via your postings throughout this forum. Shit, I probably turned down a university that is both more prestigious and difficult to get into than any school to which you applied, much less attended. (First, I turned down an offer to U of Penn and this isn't the school I am referring to above.)
 
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emperus

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It's time Congress addresses the Supreme Court. They seem to have more brazenly moved into the political game. There was no reason to have held this decision this long. Not even sure why they took the case. And the fact that it is unsigned is the cherry on top. Congress needs to streamline cases between States and the President or Congress and the President. Justice delayed is justice denied.
 
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fskimospy

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It's time Congress addresses the Supreme Court. They seem to have more brazenly moved into the political game. There was not reason to have held this decision this long. Not even sure why they took the case. And the fact that it is unsigned is the cherry on top. Congress needs to streamline cases between States and the President or Congress and the President. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Very much agree - I can see no valid legal reason for sitting on this case for four months or really why such a straightforward case took years to resolve to begin with. This should have been resolved in a matter of weeks.
 

K1052

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No argument from me. They clearly withheld a decision for political reasons.
 

NWRMidnight

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To bad Trump is banned from Twitter (not).. his meltdown today will be epic, as he attacks the SCOTUS to anyone who will listen. Poor Bastard! (not). I don't feel sorry for him in any shape or form. I hope this is the beginning of a long chain of him paying for his crimes.
 

Motostu

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Will they finally get them this time, or is there still room for the lawyers find yet another angle/approach to delaying this even more? Ie, is this finally a final decision?
 
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