Trump thinks the US should have president for life

[Thunder 57]

So, it's a safe and smart thing to have a president that says and does stupid things on the regular?

Corpseman
57 states
Police acted stupidly

So Trump said something stupid that he shouldn't have said. I doubt he was at all serious. Though I'm sure he'd love the possibility.

 

[Bitek]

Merkel is not a President. She's not head of state.
Merkel is Chancellor.
There's a difference. A difference in how you get the job. And a difference in what the job's responsibilities are.
But that would be impossible to explain to Americans.

Noted, but not the point i was making. Leaders can stay in power for an extended time and be effective and not corrupt.

There is an idea in the US that you have to have constant turn over or leaders just become self serving and corrupt. Somehow term limits make them more accountable.

Eg, the Virginia governorship it's a single 4yr term, which means there is constant turnover, and have been some famous abuses of power.

The pool of candidates is rather small, so you've even had chairman of the national parties running for governor. Both sitting va senators were govs at some point. Just not a large talent pool when you get down to it.

 

[Younigue]

wow the butthurt humorless pricks here are astounding

you can't even recognize when he's mocking China (while not saying words they can actually take offense at)

sad

I have an excellent sense of humor... I laughed hysterically at your post.

 

[Younigue]

Corpseman
57 states
Police acted stupidly

So Trump said something stupid that he shouldn't have said. I doubt he was at all serious. Though I'm sure he'd love the possibility.

He is constantly saying something stupid. I'll give you one guess why... Times Up, it's because he is in fact stupid. That's a problem. I know he's the great WHITE hope but that in and of itself is stupid. The people who still support him in ANYTHING are actually stupid. They're not just partisan, they're not just zealots, they are stupid and cruel opportunists driven by ugliness.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Corpseman
57 states
Police acted stupidly

So Trump said something stupid that he shouldn't have said. I doubt he was at all serious. Though I'm sure he'd love the possibility.

Do you really not understand why your examples aren’t even closely related? I mean, two of them are slips of the tongue. Misspeak.

The last, well, doesnt rise anywhere near the level of Trump. And let’s not pretend this is the first time Trump has said something that goes against the very core of what the United States is supposed to stand for. This is all too common.

 

[Gryz]

Noted, but not the point i was making. Leaders can stay in power for an extended time and be effective and not corrupt.

That depends on what you call "stay in power".

Being a Chancellor is just that: she's the head of the German government. She is not head of the State (the country). That's Frank-Walter Steinmeier. He's the Bundespräsident. Another difference is that there are multiple parties in the German Parliament. Those parties have to form a coalition to get a majority to form a government. E.g. the current German government is a combination of three parties (CDU, CSU and SPD). As you can see, Merkel has to share power with a lot of people.

This is not like the US, where you have a "winner takes all" mentality. You chose one winner, and he determines everything for the next 4 years. I think that sucks. (E.g. the way the electoral votes work per state). And you give power to a single person. (Luckily you have a separation of parliament and government).

Also, Merkel is a very special person. I do not agree with her personal views (fuck Christianity). But she is a honest person, I think. Coming from the ex-DDR. Having been a real scientist. You won't find more people like her easily.

 

[Thunder 57]

Do you really not understand why your examples aren’t even closely related? I mean, two of them are slips of the tongue. Misspeak.

The last, well, doesnt rise anywhere near the level of Trump. And let’s not pretend this is the first time Trump has said something that goes against the very core of what the United States is supposed to stand for. This is all too common.

I didn't mean the stupidly part. You left out this part:

So, it's a safe and smart thing to have a president that says and does stupid things on the regular?

Saying the police acted stupidly before the facts were out was an example of doing something stupid, not saying. Point is any president will do and say things that are stupid, it is just a matter of quantity and of course how stupid. I have feeling that you only care now because you don't like Trump and/or his policies, and that's fine. I guess to answer your question, no, obviously it is not a safe and smart thing.

 

[Jhhnn]

The problem with being El Presidente for life is that people who want you out have no incentive to wait until the end of your term to get you out...

 

[Younigue]

I didn't mean the stupidly part. You left out this part:



Saying the police acted stupidly before the facts were out was an example of doing something stupid, not saying. Point is any president will do and say things that are stupid, it is just a matter of quantity and of course how stupid. I have feeling that you only care now because you don't like Trump and/or his policies, and that's fine. I guess to answer your question, no, obviously it is not a safe and smart thing.

hmm, I wouldn't suggest that my sudden interest in this particular stupid thing he said is a singularity. I think everything he says is stupid. The quantity at this point is immeasurable. To say I only care now misrepresents how I have felt about the things he says. I have hated everything he says since way before the election. I truly believe the man is a complete waste of Orange skin. I don't believe he has anything of value to offer the people, the country or the world. I don't believe he ever has an intention that can be construed as anything but corruption, self serving and tainted by all that is his nasty, disgusting mind. So yes, this sticks out today but it all does. He has no intention of helping the country, he wants only to help himself to money, personal gains and to the weak and ugly and stupid willing to prop his fat Orange ass up. It's absurd that his base can't see that all he would ever be willing to offer them is to rape and pillage them.

 

[Jhhnn]

That depends on what you call "stay in power".

Being a Chancellor is just that: she's the head of the German government. She is not head of the State (the country). That's Frank-Walter Steinmeier. He's the Bundespräsident. Another difference is that there are multiple parties in the German Parliament. Those parties have to form a coalition to get a majority to form a government. E.g. the current German government is a combination of three parties (CDU, CSU and SPD). As you can see, Merkel has to share power with a lot of people.

This is not like the US, where you have a "winner takes all" mentality. You chose one winner, and he determines everything for the next 4 years. I think that sucks. (E.g. the way the electoral votes work per state). And you give power to a single person. (Luckily you have a separation of parliament and government).

Also, Merkel is a very special person. I do not agree with her personal views (fuck Christianity). But she is a honest person, I think. Coming from the ex-DDR. Having been a real scientist. You won't find more people like her easily.

You mischaracterize how the American system works. It's not like Obama determined everything during his years in office. Nor has Trump, at least so far.

 

[rommelrommel]

Corpseman
57 states
Police acted stupidly

So Trump said something stupid that he shouldn't have said. I doubt he was at all serious. Though I'm sure he'd love the possibility.

Eight years and that’s the best you can come up with.

This week Trump floated the idea of holding office for life, eliminating due process, and praised trade wars.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Corpseman
57 states
Police acted stupidly

So Trump said something stupid that he shouldn't have said. I doubt he was at all serious. Though I'm sure he'd love the possibility.

Wow, that's one zinger after another right there.

 

[rommelrommel]

He is literally everything those morons tried to claim Obama was. Everything. And they want to slobber all over his knob for it.

At least he’s not a Muslim, amirite?

 

[HomerJS]

I didn't mean the stupidly part. You left out this part:



Saying the police acted stupidly before the facts were out was an example of doing something stupid, not saying. Point is any president will do and say things that are stupid, it is just a matter of quantity and of course how stupid. I have feeling that you only care now because you don't like Trump and/or his policies, and that's fine. I guess to answer your question, no, obviously it is not a safe and smart thing.

It may have been ill advised but Prof. Gates was a friend of his and the cops arrested him for breaking into his own house. I suspect if that happened to a friend of yours you would stick up for them.

That's all you have for 8 Obama years. Trump has out-lapped him by 10,000x in only one year.

 

[Thunder 57]

It may have been ill advised but Prof. Gates was a friend of his and the cops arrested him for breaking into his own house. I suspect if that happened to a friend of yours you would stick up for them.

That's all you have for 8 Obama years. Trump has out-lapped him by 10,000x in only one year.

If you want someone to bash Obama there are plenty out there. You would never consider having a serious conversation with any of them though I'd bet. I don't hate Obama, and I could sure come up with worse that happened under his tenure. I may have disagreed with a lot of his political views, but I wanted him to at least do well regarding the economy, international affairs, etc.

But there really is no honest discussion here. It's just one side bashing the other day after day. This forum, like the country, is as partisan as it has ever been in my (admittedly not long) lifetime.

 

[UberNeuman]

If you want someone to bash Obama there are plenty out there. You would never consider having a serious conversation with any of them though I'd bet. I don't hate Obama, and I could sure come up with worse that happened under his tenure. I may have disagreed with a lot of his political views, but I wanted him to at least do well regarding the economy, international affairs, etc.

But there really is no honest discussion here. It's just one side bashing the other day after day. This forum, like the country, is as partisan as it has ever been in my (admittedly not long) lifetime.

What issues do you find are so dividing and partisan between the two parties?

 

[Younigue]

If you want someone to bash Obama there are plenty out there. You would never consider having a serious conversation with any of them though I'd bet. I don't hate Obama, and I could sure come up with worse that happened under his tenure. I may have disagreed with a lot of his political views, but I wanted him to at least do well regarding the economy, international affairs, etc.

But there really is no honest discussion here. It's just one side bashing the other day after day. This forum, like the country, is as partisan as it has ever been in my (admittedly not long) lifetime.

Wanting Trump to succeed was never a possibility. He doesn't possess ANY of the qualities required to succeed politically. Partisan? He never gave any indication he should be cheered on by anyone other than hate groups/religious nuts.

 

[evident]

Wanting Trump to succeed was never a possibility. He doesn't possess ANY of the qualities required to succeed politically. Partisan? He never gave any indication he should be cheered on by anyone other than hate groups/religious nuts.

America survives when this president fails. Lets hope his dumb ass tariffs won't cripple our economy.

 

[hal2kilo]

Eight years and that’s the best you can come up with.

This week Trump floated the idea of holding office for life, eliminating due process, and praised trade wars.

You forget the supposed third rail for cons...GUN GRABBIN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bshole]

He is constantly saying something stupid. I'll give you one guess why... Times Up, it's because he is in fact stupid. That's a problem. I know he's the great WHITE hope but that in and of itself is stupid. The people who still support him in ANYTHING are actually stupid. They're not just partisan, they're not just zealots, they are stupid and cruel opportunists driven by ugliness.

I keep going back and forth on this one. I have no idea whatsoever what Trump's actual worldview is. I do know that he gets off on lying. It is plausible to me that he says stupid stuff for the simple pleasure of being able to do whatever the fuck he wants to without consequence. Even so, the grade school vocabulary he uses is indicative of a less than sophisticated intellect.

In the end, people can be good decent folk without being all that intelligent. Trump's problem is that he is the only person in his world, the rest of humanity are secondary beings to adore him and receive his abuse. It would do him so much good to be convicted of money laundering and spend some time in jail, it would be his first taste of comeuppance.

 

[jayzds]

Trump is doing EVERYTHING the Right has falsely accused Obama of. And they're saying nothing.

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Well, I am a conservative, and I don't agree with that bullshit. At the same time, it will not happen.

 

[gamervivek]

Not a single one of you think it might have been said in jest? Isn't that a possibility?

You think it matters to them? Outrage uber alles!

wow the butthurt humorless pricks here are astounding

you can't even recognize when he's mocking China (while not saying words they can actually take offense at)

sad

No no, they're the party of science, therefore you're wrong. Only their party can use humor. Kimmel said so!

 

[Younigue]

You think it matters to them? Outrage uber alles!



No no, they're the party of science, therefore you're wrong. Only their party can use humor. Kimmel said so!

"Their side"? You think Trump is on your side? That is the only joke he ever successfully told but not with out the aid of Russia, gerrymandering and sadly more ugly stupid people than I could have guessed walking the earth. Also he's not funny, ever.

Pssst... No science, math or reading skills required to know what Trump and GOP are... Sell outs, corrupt and in probably too many cases treasonous. What that means is a person can even be a certain degree of dumb and still come correct. The stupidity on your side (not necessarily Republican... But definitely every single person who supports Trump in any way) is profound. It doesn't take a genius to know that that is funny, but in the sad, pathetic way... You know, you're right, your side is funny! Kimmel knows nothing! Progressives. Dems are funnier, smarter and better in all ways.