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So go back to where?The one I've seen repeatedly in local comment sections is the main stream media is lying again and he didn't actually say go back to their countries.
So go back to where?The one I've seen repeatedly in local comment sections is the main stream media is lying again and he didn't actually say go back to their countries.
Their home districts of course that is what Trump really meant.So go back to where?
Even though he prefaced it with "countries"Their home districts of course that is what Trump really meant.
I'm not really surprised to see such direct racism from Trump, but I am surprised at how few Republicans seem to mind.
Politicians the world over are calling his comments racist and still the GOP en masse sits silent. They are that afraid he will turn on them.
Their home districts of course that is what Trump really meant.
Big question is why don't their voters care? Do they feel the same way? Do these people need to be confronted with their position?Yeah I'm not sold on Trump losing 2020. If he does, it'll be super close and likely tied up in a SCOTUS decision.
My reasoning is yes we outnumber them but they have a lot of things that make EC work for them.. i.e. how are polls in MI, WI, PA, FL and other swing states?
Remember how in 2016 we assumed Hillary would win. For 2020 we can assume Trump will coast to a win unless a miracle happens.
And this whole racism isn't really surprising anymore.. we all know who he is. The Trump voters know who he is.
If anything this may be a distraction from the Epstien saga.
Yeah I'm not sold on Trump losing 2020. If he does, it'll be super close and likely tied up in a SCOTUS decision.
My reasoning is yes we outnumber them but they have a lot of things that make EC work for them.. i.e. how are polls in MI, WI, PA, FL and other swing states?
Remember how in 2016 we assumed Hillary would win. For 2020 we can assume Trump will coast to a win unless a miracle happens.
And this whole racism isn't really surprising anymore.. we all know who he is. The Trump voters know who he is.
If anything this may be a distraction from the Epstien saga.
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham is advising President Donald Trump to “aim higher” following Trump’s incendiary weekend tweets about four Democratic congresswomen.
They don't care because they get their "news" from Fox, talk radio, and right-wing sites where it's sugar-coated and goes down easy on their brainwashed minds. Everything else is fake news.Big question is why don't their voters care? Do they feel the same way? Do these people need to be confronted with their position?
Now you see why Trump's voters don't care.Fox News thinks Trump's racist tweets are comedy
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-and-friends-trump-tweets-163246148.html
Even with the ICE raid Trump didn't give a damn about security like he claims. You don't announce a raid because of the so called security crisis.What Trump is doing is indefensible.
What he is doing is indicative of his political strategy.
In recent weeks. moderate Democrats have been distancing themselves from the progressive wing of the House. By doing stuff like this, Trump forced the moderate Democrats to stand with the progressive wing.
I am guessing the weekend ICE activities played into this: the lone antifa militia attack on the facility in Tacoma and the raising of the Mexican flag at the facility in Colorado.
For the record, my grandmother, who had four kids and could barely speak english, was told to go back to where she came from. My grandfather spent a night in jail for punching the guy who said it.
What Trump is doing is indefensible.
What he is doing is indicative of his political strategy.
In recent weeks. moderate Democrats have been distancing themselves from the progressive wing of the House. By doing stuff like this, Trump forced the moderate Democrats to stand with the progressive wing.
I am guessing the weekend ICE activities played into this: the lone antifa militia attack on the facility in Tacoma and the raising of the Mexican flag at the facility in Colorado.
For the record, my grandmother, who had four kids and could barely speak english, was told to go back to where she came from. My grandfather spent a night in jail for punching the guy who said it.
Marc Short defended Trump's tweets, arguing that the president's "intent" was not "in any way racist." Short said that Trump was only referring to Rep. Ilhan Omar who he falsely claimed hasn't made any "positive" comments about the US since she was elected to Congress last year.
While I sincerely doubt Trump is doing this strategically as he hasn’t shown the capacity for strategic thinking in anything else, if this is his strategy he’s made a huge mistake. Democrats were criticizing Democrats, which was to his advantage. Now they are unified again.
You announce the raid to create a response to it, or hope someone does something stupid to change the focus of the narrative.Even with the ICE raid Trump didn't give a damn about security like he claims. You don't announce a raid because of the so called security crisis.
I think you are saying an electoral majority in this country are still good ole' fashioned racist and Trump knows it?IMO i think this IS part of his stratagy - or at least, his advisers stratagy. I don't disagree that Trump is an impulsive adolescent dumbass , but he has survived many years dividing and manipulating people. He's actually good at it. He (Or his team) knew that he could win a national election using racist themes. And those instincts turned out to be right when all the experts told him he couldn't be more wrong. Trump might not know a lot, but he understands the emotions of naive, confused, ignorant people.
I think Trump has shown remarkable capability to control the narrative. Whether its strategic of survival instinct is open to debate. Centrist Democrats were shifting the narrative back to the center, which hurts Trump. I think he wants a unified Democrat front centered around the vocal progressive members of the House.While I sincerely doubt Trump is doing this strategically as he hasn’t shown the capacity for strategic thinking in anything else, if this is his strategy he’s made a huge mistake. Democrats were criticizing Democrats, which was to his advantage. Now they are unified again.
Actually it looks like they keep announcing the raids to feed the base. So far there isn't much evidence they've actually done anything. Delay, delay and so far I haven't seen much reporting from any of the major cities said to be targeted of any raids occurring. Certainly not en masse.You announce the raid to create a response to it, or hope someone does something stupid to change the focus of the narrative.
I keep coming to this thread and wanting to make a comment. I type something out then delete it as it doesn't directly convey my thoughts completely and accurately.
I've gotten to the point where I really can't even fathom what is going on in this country anymore... I just don't get it. How we got here. How we stay here. And where we go from here.
I'm 45 years old and have seen a lot of things in my life. I have a solid education, and upbringing and have experienced a lot of good and bad things. This current state has me at a loss... All that keeps rambling around in my head is "I don't get it".