Trump to impose tariffs on Mexico due to immigration/asylum issue, starting June 10

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Bitek

Lifer
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Funny thing is, a good economy is the best thing trump has to get reelected, and thus keep his ass out of jail. Hes doing his absolute damndest to fuck that all to hell, because hes too stupid to know better.

I'd be laughing my balls off right now at the irony if it weren't for A) the destruction of our political system, B) my declining portfolio, and C) more expensive tequlla.

Ironically Mexico is one of the best bets to receive displaced Chinese manufacturing due to the trade war on that front, but he'll screw that over.

Also, a booming Mexican economy would be one of the best deterrents to illegal immigration here, plus provide new/expanded markets for us goods.

Instead we just seem hell bent on shitting on everyone.
 
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alien42

Lifer
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Funny thing is, a good economy is the best thing trump has to get reelected, and thus keep his ass out of jail. Hes doing his absolute damndest to fuck that all to hell, because hes too stupid to know better.

I'd be laughing my balls off right now at the irony if it weren't for A) the destruction of our political system, B) my declining portfolio, and C) more expensive tequlla.

the shart of the deal

kiss the UMCA goodbye
 

dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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trump will never understand how tariffs work, can't be explained to him, and will never accept the fact that consumers and not producers pay them.

none of that statement from Mulvaney makes any kind of adult sense. Maybe children will understand it, but not likely. Too bored perhaps.


Anyway, glad I bought my Mexico-made, German, China, US, Japan-parted GTI a month ago!
I bought a new nissan rogue last year in april, glad I did

side note, it was fun explaining how to pronounce 'rogue' to the insurance company, she was saying it with a long 'u'. explained the u was silent.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
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So, ignorant as I am about the billions upon billions of $$$ in aid that Trump has to buy off the farmers with, can anyone tell me from what magical printing press these billions of $$$ are coming from?
 
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zinfamous

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side note, it was fun explaining how to pronounce 'rogue' to the insurance company, she was saying it with a long 'u'. explained the u was silent.

/shakes head in sadness.

I mean, that is another topic, but this decline exists everywhere.
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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So Trump is threatening to make the 'immigration problem' worse if Mexico cannot stop it.

In terms of acts of gross stupidity, this ranks up there with the likes of 'wind turbines causing cancer'!
 

1prophet

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Following are the most important imports from Mexico.
Vehicles $74 Billion (Passenger cars, Vehicle parts)
Electrical Machinery $63 Billion (Flat screen TVs , Electrical Generators, Monitors)
Machinery $49 Billion
Crude Oil $14 Billion
Medical Instruments $12 Billion
Fresh Vegetables $4.8 Billion (Avocados, Tomatoes)
Fresh Fruits $4.3 Billion
Alcoholic Beverages $2.7 Billion (Beer, Tequila)
Rubber $2.4 Billion
Snack Foods $1.7 Billion
Processed Fruits and Vegetables $1.4 Billion

So cars, TV's, Monitors, Doctors visits, Food, Tequila all got more expensive!

Thanks Trump!
And all those things are made paying living wages, healthcare, benefits, maternity/family leave, similar OSHA, Environmental Controls and labor rights, and all those things liberal democrats say American businesses must pay,

Oh wait the reason American companies are there is so more of the money can go upwards to create enormous wealth for the 1% and avoid the salaries, healthcare, and all the associated costs by paying Americans and dealing with all those pesky rules and regulations our dear liberal friends say we need to have to protect workers and the environment.

And their answer to that now is a wealth tax instead of fixing the underlying issues that have allowed the wealth disparity to occur in the first place, which also includes the rise in illegal immigration.

This article was written long before Trump was a blip on the political radar.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nafta-at-20-one-million-u_b_4550207
NAFTA at 20: One Million U.S. Jobs Lost, Higher Income Inequality
For NAFTA’s unhappy 20th anniversary, Public Citizen has published a report that details the wreckage. Not only did promises made by NAFTA’s proponents not materialize, but many results are exactly the opposite.

Such outcomes include a staggering $181 billion U.S. trade deficit with NAFTA partners Mexico and Canada and the related loss of 1 million net U.S. jobs under NAFTA, growing income inequality, displacement of more than one million Mexican campesino farmers and a doubling of desperate immigration from Mexico, and more than $360 million paid to corporations after “investor-state” tribunal attacks on, and rollbacks of, domestic public interest policies.

The study makes for a blood-boiling read. For instance, we track the specific promises made by U.S. corporations like GE, Chrysler and Caterpillar to create specific numbers of American jobs if NAFTA was approved, and reveal government data showing that instead, they fired U.S. workers and moved operations to Mexico.

The data also show how post-NAFTA trade and investment trends have contributed to middle-class pay cuts, which in turn contributed to growing income inequality; how since NAFTA, U.S. trade deficit growth with Mexico and Canada has been 45 percent higher than with countries not party to a U.S. Free Trade Agreement, and how U.S. manufacturing exports to Canada and Mexico have grown at less than half the pre-NAFTA rate.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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Main reason for this is a distraction from the Mueller statement.

Take note you Trumptards, we have a report the tax cuts had very little effect on the average person. China tariffs will cost the average family around $800/yr. Now Mexico tariffs will cost same families even more money.

We have been hit with a Trump tax on the middle class and poor. Meanwhile the rich and corporations got their massive tax cuts.

Congratulations, rubes.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Democrats had better get their branding game in gear. For 2020 we have

Trump middle class tax increases
Trump welfare.
 

Viper1j

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...0b4105f7ca0_story.html?utm_term=.325406db037d


This must be one of the dumbest fucking ideas I've seen and he's not short of them. Mexico has already promised to retaliate and they could easily halt their passage of his trade deal. Consumers are going to start feeling this immediately. Creating economic problems in Mexico isn't likely to REDUCE Mexican immigration, quite the opposite in fact.

Also the Chinese are going to squeeze his nuts big time now that he's opening another major trade war front.

Well, guess I better start stocking up on tequila and avocados.
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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Whatever degree this economically “punishes” Mexico, that just makes it more likely that some Mexicans will seek work in the US. Truly a stable genius. Threatening your largest and most economically important neighbor to the South shows Mexico that Trump doesn't understand jack shit about the problem.

Trump: - Mexico needs to fix the border NOW! Tariffs if they don't!

Mexico: - Oh? You think there's an immigration problem now?

Reporters need to constantly ask him this question? "Mr. President, do you think China and Mexico are paying these tariffs?"

His answer - Of course Mexico is paying for the tariffs, how else Mexico is going to pay for my border wall.

That Trump actually believes his idea about how tariffs work is alarming, but that Congress - including the unmovable and recalcitrant Senate - would allow this to continue is damned near unbelievable.

Aren't many of them businessmen, whose livelihood will be disrupted by policies shaped by our divorced-from-reality president? Surely they can't ALL be total partisan hacks - or, at least, you'd think the ones who didn't have Alien Seed Pods under their beds would have by now forced their fellow senators to confront reality.

He knows how tariffs work. Exactly the way he thinks they work. And no one can tell him different. Actually, It's not whether or not he knows how tariffs work. He has no excuse not to, but I don't know if he can grasp the concept or not. Most of his base, OTOH, has no idea, and believes they work however he says they work.

I guess from a certain perspective, “how tariffs work” is dependent on what you want them to do. The ignorant may be bamboozled into thinking that they’re a way to extract money from a foreign nation, but for the Trump, their purpose is to make the ignorant happy, and secure their approval and votes.

By that measure, the tariffs seem to be working perfectly
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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We're seeing how Donald Trump wages economic warfare. He invents reasons to attack a competitor, and he attacks them alone, one-on-one. He "negotiates" by putting countries in a corner and then expects them to capitulate, and when they don't, he assumes that putting more chips on the table is a counter-strategy. In short, he's reckless and clueless.

Actually, its not exactly one-on-one since he's doing the same thing to a number of different countries as the same time, so its really one-on-several. So effectively what is happening is Trump is effectively self imposing a multilateral system of economic trade sanctions against the US.
 
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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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The most interesting thing about this is that The White House does not seem able to give anyone any metrics on what would satisfy the conditions to avoid the tariffs. It seems to all fall on how Trump feels about it all come the day. We are now making large serious foreign policy decisions based on the President's whim.

Still think this is not an authoritarian regime?
 
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vi edit

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With as reported tiny as this mushroom dicked buffoon is...he somehow still manages to step on it any chance he gets.
 
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